CarewsEyebrowDesigner Posted March 14, 2012 Share Posted March 14, 2012 Gateau a la c**nge. (clunge? ha) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
legov Posted March 14, 2012 Share Posted March 14, 2012 If my manager leaves work and my md exPects me to take over some of that role, can I say I will only do it for a payrise? Signing off invoices and managing budgets and doing work only a manager would do, if he asks me to take over some of that am I within my rights to ask for more money there and then? They already get a bloody good deal out of me as it is and I'm not doing the extra work for nothing. Can you not apply for this managers role , does the company have a history of looking internal and promoting within ? I went through something similar very early in my working career..a manager left and I took the view of getting on with the job and showing I could do it .. Then raised it at my next appraisal in a subtle way and the proper title and remuneration the role deserved followed. The other option is of course to ask for the money upfront as you suggest Think a lot depends on the company and your relationship with the boss .. . the boss isn't too great tbh I am already doing my role on lower than industry standard, plus taking on IT liaison to the support company and also project managing the web build from our side ( I am an online marketing exec ffs) they were paying a consultant £600 a day to do that 2 days a week and I am doing that AND my job for £18k a year. hell online marketing exec on it's on is basic £20-£30k. What I want to say is that I will do all the online marketing and budgets and MANAGE that side of the marketing department. i am on 18k and the manager is on £25k. add that is £43k divide by 2 is £21.5k. I will become online marketing manager for £21.5k no less or I will just find another job on £20k no problem and leave with a weeks notice (which is the current process). I am a v good online marketing exec and generally with 4 agencies I am signed up with always get offered new roles for interviews even though they know I am full time. Hell there was a role that came up a few weeks ago and all 3 agencies the company got to fill the role called me. ALL 3. I got given the IT responsibility at no thanks or offer because "oh you know a bit about computers" knob Honest question from a foreigner........how do you live decently on £18k a year? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
irreverentad Posted March 14, 2012 Share Posted March 14, 2012 Apparenty, women are attempting to start a retaliatory "Cake & Cunnilingus Day". Wouldn't bother me, really. Gash, gateau; I'll gobble 'em both. Which one would have the cherry? :winkold: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GarethRDR Posted March 14, 2012 Share Posted March 14, 2012 I don't bother with cherries, much rather get straight to the cream (or jam, dependant on the date) centre. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginko Posted March 14, 2012 Share Posted March 14, 2012 Bah, just got an email through saying I've not been accepted through to the next round of the interview process. Shame because it's a job I knew I could do well and I thought I answered the questions on the application rather well. What a kick in the balls. Worst of all I have no girlfriend to cook me a steak and give me a blowjob to help ease the disappointment. Ah well, at least there's football on tonight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
irreverentad Posted March 14, 2012 Share Posted March 14, 2012 Bah, just got an email through saying I've not been accepted through to the next round of the interview process. Shame because it's a job I knew I could do well and I thought I answered the questions on the application rather well. What a kick in the balls. Worst of all I have no girlfriend to cook me a steak and give me a blowjob to help ease the disappointment. Ah well, at least there's football on tonight. Sorry about the job mate. Their loss. On another note have a potnoodle and a wank! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOF Posted March 14, 2012 Moderator Share Posted March 14, 2012 Bummer Ginko Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginko Posted March 14, 2012 Share Posted March 14, 2012 Cheers fella, unfortunately I have no pot noodles and I have some sausages that need eating. Bangers and Mash, football and Babestation for me tonight Just kidding. Babestation is terrible, no vadge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paddywhack Posted March 14, 2012 Share Posted March 14, 2012 Cheers fella, unfortunately I have no pot noodles and I have a sausage that needs eating. Bangers and Mash, football and Babestation for me tonight Just kidding. Babestation is terrible, no vadge. Edit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginko Posted March 14, 2012 Share Posted March 14, 2012 Damn straight. Thanks for the support though chaps. I have a few other jobs to hear back from yet though so all is not lost. Besides, if I got that job I'd have to have moved to London, which whereas I'm not wholly against it, I'd have been very poor for a while and I wouldn't get to go and watch the Villa. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paddywhack Posted March 14, 2012 Share Posted March 14, 2012 Damn straight. Thanks for the support though chaps. I have a few other jobs to hear back from yet though so all is not lost. Besides, if I got that job I'd have to have moved to London, which whereas I'm not wholly against it, I'd have been very poor for a while and I wouldn't get to go and watch the Villa. They always put buying a new house and getting a divorce at the top of the most stressful things you go through. I havent done either of those, so I wouldn't know, but I think the 'New Job' process should get a mention. Finding jobs, applying for jobs, going for interviews, getting turned down, signing on, settling in to a new job, etc, etc. Nightmare. It's probably the main reason I'm still at my current job, I've got too 'settled'. Good luck to you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kidlewis Posted March 14, 2012 Share Posted March 14, 2012 If my manager leaves work and my md exPects me to take over some of that role, can I say I will only do it for a payrise? Signing off invoices and managing budgets and doing work only a manager would do, if he asks me to take over some of that am I within my rights to ask for more money there and then? They already get a bloody good deal out of me as it is and I'm not doing the extra work for nothing. Can you not apply for this managers role , does the company have a history of looking internal and promoting within ? I went through something similar very early in my working career..a manager left and I took the view of getting on with the job and showing I could do it .. Then raised it at my next appraisal in a subtle way and the proper title and remuneration the role deserved followed. The other option is of course to ask for the money upfront as you suggest Think a lot depends on the company and your relationship with the boss .. . the boss isn't too great tbh I am already doing my role on lower than industry standard, plus taking on IT liaison to the support company and also project managing the web build from our side ( I am an online marketing exec ffs) they were paying a consultant £600 a day to do that 2 days a week and I am doing that AND my job for £18k a year. hell online marketing exec on it's on is basic £20-£30k. What I want to say is that I will do all the online marketing and budgets and MANAGE that side of the marketing department. i am on 18k and the manager is on £25k. add that is £43k divide by 2 is £21.5k. I will become online marketing manager for £21.5k no less or I will just find another job on £20k no problem and leave with a weeks notice (which is the current process). I am a v good online marketing exec and generally with 4 agencies I am signed up with always get offered new roles for interviews even though they know I am full time. Hell there was a role that came up a few weeks ago and all 3 agencies the company got to fill the role called me. ALL 3. I got given the IT responsibility at no thanks or offer because "oh you know a bit about computers" knob Honest question from a foreigner........how do you live decently on £18k a year? dont get me started. fortunately my fiance is on 26k full time, which is fine until you consider we pay £690 a month in childcare which is about as cheap as you can get for 5 days a week. want to have another child but another £690 a month is what, £6k gross salary? so just to stay as we are now which is okay but forget me affording a day to the villa a month, I would need to find £6k salary increase in order to fund another child. An online marketing exec in warwickshire or west mids, you'd be hard pressed to find a company cocky enough to ask for less than 20k. You look at 25k as a ball park salary plus benefits for a role like that. marketing manager particularly online £30-£40k. pees me off that I have allowed myself to become our website project manager and IT "person" who liaises with our outsourced IT support company, because it was just planted on me. I had to google HTML and learn how to make basic HTML pages because he didn't want to pay someone to make the templates. Fortunately I did it in a couple of days but still, not something easy to just "pick up". Good job I didn't have to learn CSS for style sheets otherwise i'd be screwed. or more to the point he would. By the way all you get is salary, no benefits or pension. You get Tea and Coffee and milk, oh and paper towels in the toilets, that one was new. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
legov Posted March 14, 2012 Share Posted March 14, 2012 Damn straight. Thanks for the support though chaps. I have a few other jobs to hear back from yet though so all is not lost. Besides, if I got that job I'd have to have moved to London, which whereas I'm not wholly against it, I'd have been very poor for a while and I wouldn't get to go and watch the Villa. They always put buying a new house and getting a divorce at the top of the most stressful things you go through. I havent done either of those, so I wouldn't know, but I think the 'New Job' process should get a mention. Finding jobs, applying for jobs, going for interviews, getting turned down, signing on, settling in to a new job, etc, etc. Nightmare. It's probably the main reason I'm still at my current job, I've got too 'settled'. Good luck to you! Wonder if finding a new school ranks up there as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paddywhack Posted March 14, 2012 Share Posted March 14, 2012 They always put buying a new house and getting a divorce at the top of the most stressful things you go through. I havent done either of those, so I wouldn't know, but I think the 'New Job' process should get a mention. Finding jobs, applying for jobs, going for interviews, getting turned down, signing on, settling in to a new job, etc, etc. Nightmare. It's probably the main reason I'm still at my current job, I've got too 'settled'. Good luck to you! Wonder if finding a new school ranks up there as well. Is that a dig at my speeling and grammer? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
legov Posted March 14, 2012 Share Posted March 14, 2012 dont get me started. fortunately my fiance is on 26k full time, which is fine until you consider we pay £690 a month in childcare which is about as cheap as you can get for 5 days a week. want to have another child but another £690 a month is what, £6k gross salary? so just to stay as we are now which is okay but forget me affording a day to the villa a month, I would need to find £6k salary increase in order to fund another child. An online marketing exec in warwickshire or west mids, you'd be hard pressed to find a company cocky enough to ask for less than 20k. You look at 25k as a ball park salary plus benefits for a role like that. marketing manager particularly online £30-£40k. pees me off that I have allowed myself to become our website project manager and IT "person" who liaises with our outsourced IT support company, because it was just planted on me. I had to google HTML and learn how to make basic HTML pages because he didn't want to pay someone to make the templates. Fortunately I did it in a couple of days but still, not something easy to just "pick up". Good job I didn't have to learn CSS for style sheets otherwise i'd be screwed. or more to the point he would. By the way all you get is salary, no benefits or pension. You get Tea and Coffee and milk, oh and paper towels in the toilets, that one was new. I assume the only reason why you're not looking for a job elsewhere is because of how tight the job market in the UK is? For all of this country's faults, at least we have consistently high employment rates although I wonder how long that will last. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarewsEyebrowDesigner Posted March 14, 2012 Share Posted March 14, 2012 I stress over spilt milk, never mind finding a new home. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
legov Posted March 14, 2012 Share Posted March 14, 2012 They always put buying a new house and getting a divorce at the top of the most stressful things you go through. I havent done either of those, so I wouldn't know, but I think the 'New Job' process should get a mention. Finding jobs, applying for jobs, going for interviews, getting turned down, signing on, settling in to a new job, etc, etc. Nightmare. It's probably the main reason I'm still at my current job, I've got too 'settled'. Good luck to you! Wonder if finding a new school ranks up there as well. Is that a dig at my speeling and grammer? No, not at all, I'm trying to get a study place in the UK right now but it's piss hard, especially considering that I never took my A-levels (dropped out of school before i could do so, thanks to ummmm, extenuating circumstances.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kidlewis Posted March 14, 2012 Share Posted March 14, 2012 dont get me started. fortunately my fiance is on 26k full time, which is fine until you consider we pay £690 a month in childcare which is about as cheap as you can get for 5 days a week. want to have another child but another £690 a month is what, £6k gross salary? so just to stay as we are now which is okay but forget me affording a day to the villa a month, I would need to find £6k salary increase in order to fund another child. An online marketing exec in warwickshire or west mids, you'd be hard pressed to find a company cocky enough to ask for less than 20k. You look at 25k as a ball park salary plus benefits for a role like that. marketing manager particularly online £30-£40k. pees me off that I have allowed myself to become our website project manager and IT "person" who liaises with our outsourced IT support company, because it was just planted on me. I had to google HTML and learn how to make basic HTML pages because he didn't want to pay someone to make the templates. Fortunately I did it in a couple of days but still, not something easy to just "pick up". Good job I didn't have to learn CSS for style sheets otherwise i'd be screwed. or more to the point he would. By the way all you get is salary, no benefits or pension. You get Tea and Coffee and milk, oh and paper towels in the toilets, that one was new. I assume the only reason why you're not looking for a job elsewhere is because of how tight the job market in the UK is? For all of this country's faults, at least we have consistently high employment rates although I wonder how long that will last. oh no don't get me wrong, I am looking. Already had two interviews for about £25k in good small businesses. Maybe have another one soon for a much larger travel company specialising in attraction tickets, if they like my CV. But confident with 6 years online marketing experience in travel industry. Self taught and no degree, however the online marketing industry is changing all the time, no degree can keep up with the fast paced development of online. I mean the first online marketing masters degree only started 2 years ago. I think Registering with SEOMOZ, mashable and trial and error is the best way to go. I learned most of my stuff from there and also speaking to people like the director of myvouchercodes and travelsupermarket over a beer after an event. Best way to learn is to talk to the people who already do it. I find anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjmooney Posted March 14, 2012 VT Supporter Share Posted March 14, 2012 They always put buying a new house and getting a divorce at the top of the most stressful things you go through. I thought it was: 1. Bereavement 2. Divorce 3. Moving house Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paddywhack Posted March 14, 2012 Share Posted March 14, 2012 There's doughnuts in the office today. A colleague of mine asked if I want one. I said, 'Yeah, I'll get one in a bit'. She went and got me one and brought it back. That's fine, lovely of her. Problem is, she is filthy and not in the good way. Girls in the office have said she leaves cubicles without washing her hands, she has long, really dirty finger nails, she stinks, bad breath and very much looks liek a doughnut herself. I'm not eating this doughnut, no chance. But not being an arsehole, I'm not gonna say 'no thanks, stiggy' as I chuck it in the bin. I'm in a pickle, right now.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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