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7 minutes ago, tomav84 said:

lol either way no longer my problem!

It is your problem if they trace it back to you.  Someone else took it away for me is not a defence that holds up.

And someone dumping mattress somewhere is not cause for a LOL either.

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13 minutes ago, sidcow said:

It is your problem if they trace it back to you.  Someone else took it away for me is not a defence that holds up.

And someone dumping mattress somewhere is not cause for a LOL either.

Do you suspect they'll DNA test the piss stains? Or do you think he wrote his name and address on the mattress?

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We employed what we thought was a legit company to dispose of a significantly massive shopfront including sets of revolving doors, canopies, all sorts of schizz.

Next day we had a phone call from a farmer, slightly pissed off it had all arrived in one of his fields.

How do you know it’s ours? We asked. 

It still had the **** address name plates and plaques and building floor guides screwed to it.

Dullest bit of criminality ever, but yes, essentially our problem to resolve. I won’t name the town the local waste disposal specialist was from, but the job was on the junction of Lord Street and Paradise Street, Bicks.

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12 minutes ago, chrisp65 said:

We employed what we thought was a legit company to dispose of a significantly massive shopfront including sets of revolving doors, canopies, all sorts of schizz.

Next day we had a phone call from a farmer, slightly pissed off it had all arrived in one of his fields.

How do you know it’s ours? We asked. 

It still had the **** address name plates and plaques and building floor guides screwed to it.

Dullest bit of criminality ever, but yes, essentially our problem to resolve. I won’t name the town the local waste disposal specialist was from, but the job was on the junction of Lord Street and Paradise Street, Bicks.

I'll wager that the field in question was just inside West Lancashire

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29 minutes ago, bickster said:

Do you suspect they'll DNA test the piss stains? Or do you think he wrote his name and address on the mattress?

Not saying it's likely, just correcting the "no longer my problem!" comment.

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1 hour ago, sidcow said:

Is there a bigger working from home bonus than being able to bring the bins in as soon as the binmen have been?

Half the time my neighbour does it for me. He knows I'm not an 85 year old but he seems to think it's helpful. Which it is, because I am very lazy

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I really hate fly tipping but especially in nature, where it will just sit there for about half a millenium till a majority of it hopefully eventually biodegrades.

I went for a walk in the woods next to Cardiff yesterday and very soon saw loads of rubbish and black bin liners scattered around in so many parts. I walked up a steep hill and on the other side there was a kind of punchbowl. At the bottom there were several parts covered in flytipping but in particular, at one end of it there was a huge circular pile of all kinds of rubbish with lots of black bin liners overflowing (including standard domestic waste, which seems a bit strange). About 20 metres in diametre, a metre high in the middle. It made me both angry and sad at the same time. 

Something that surprised me is this spot is totally inaccessible by car. Someone, or probably a few people, must have parked a van more than 100m away where there's a gravel lane that a car can pass along and then walked up the steep hill and down the other side lots of times, carrying the bin liners and boxes in order to dump them in that place. I imagine they may well have done it after dark, perhaps with torches, maybe a whole night's 'work'.

Anf there's a once very beautiful wood quite near Clydach, in Swansea County, that has a huge amount of flytipping in it, between a country lane and the river below... for more than a kilometre! :< It's been in the Welsh press, like Wales Online for example.

And you see signs from councils on the edges of these woods saying 'No flytipping. Fine of £___. Cameras in operation". Cameras? Where exactly are these magical cameras?! Is that really true or just bluffing? I look carefully, up in the trees, all around, and I never see a single one.

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2 hours ago, sidcow said:

Not saying it's likely, just correcting the "no longer my problem!" comment.

OK - but to elaborate, you pay someone (whether licensed waste disposal company or private individual) in good faith to dispose of an item, even help to tie the **** to his roof rack, i consider myself perfectly able to sleep soundly knowing i've done what i can rather than just dumping it at the side of the road somewhere

so i stand by my comment - i paid someone to dispose of an item, it's no longer my problem just like the crap we put in our wheelie bins

i retract the 'lol' though...it wouldn't be funny if that happens...it was more a 'lol' at the idea that someone would just dump it rather than driving it the 10 mins to the tip as agreed. maybe i'm too trusting?

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2 hours ago, sidcow said:

Solihull Council would only charge £21 to take away a mattress.  The bloke dumping it down the canal is a double con merchant.

you should see the cost of a pint down here!

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2 hours ago, sidcow said:

Solihull Council would only charge £21 to take away a mattress.  The bloke dumping it down the canal is a double con merchant.

Sefton Council wouldn't charge you at all. You were allowed three bulky items to be picked up per year

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19 minutes ago, bickster said:

Sefton Council wouldn't charge you at all. You were allowed three bulky items to be picked up per year

Yeah, Brum used to be like that too but now starts at £33.

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It’s £18 here for a small commercial car derived van to enter the recycling centre. 

So the logic here, and its been advertised, if someone is offering to dispose of rubbish for you for £20 or £25, then they are probably fly tipping it and you should have known that at that price, so its still your problem.

 

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6 minutes ago, chrisp65 said:

It’s £18 here for a small commercial car derived van to enter the recycling centre. 

So the logic here, and its been advertised, if someone is offering to dispose of rubbish for you for £20 or £25, then they are probably fly tipping it and you should have known that at that price, so its still your problem.

 

not in my area it's not. it's free as long as you have a vehicle to transport it. every council is different.

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3 minutes ago, tomav84 said:

not in my area it's not. it's free as long as you have a vehicle to transport it. every council is different.

Same here. I have disposed of carpet, mattress, I used to pay for DIY waste, but I think DEFRA have said you cant charge for that anymore. My local tip is very easy going and there are some charges but not for bulky items.

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2 minutes ago, tomav84 said:

not in my area it's not. it's free as long as you have a vehicle to transport it. every council is different.

Yep, all different.

Even just down the road, I had to use the dump that is the dump Swansea dump.

Their system was about one click up from an authorised fenced off fly tipping zone. Bring any vehicle you like, chuck your rubbish around pretty much anywhere inside the fence line. If any of your crap appears to have a value, one of our waste disposal executives will climb in and bags it for himself.

 

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I have to say, my council’s system is by far the best. Proper little recycling nazi’s, even down to Steve’s Stickers, where a man in a little car pre inspects recycling ahead of the bin men arriving and gives out orange warning stickers for any non compliance. Nobody wants the shame of a Steve’s Sticker.

But we’ve all got used to it and it bloody works and you lot have to up your game.

It would truly be great around here, a haven for litter free, fly tipping free free wildlife. We could host Springwatch. If only my dad hadn’t turned the wrong valve and killed the Cadoxton River (true story).

 

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4 minutes ago, chrisp65 said:

Yep, all different.

Even just down the road, I had to use the dump that is the dump Swansea dump.

Their system was about one click up from an authorised fenced off fly tipping zone. Bring any vehicle you like, chuck your rubbish around pretty much anywhere inside the fence line. If any of your crap appears to have a value, one of our waste disposal executives will climb in and bags it for himself.

 

yeah so in my case for £25 there's really no reason to suggest anyone's fly tipping bearing in mind all it's costing the fella is the petrol down there

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