Stevo985 Posted July 18, 2013 VT Supporter Share Posted July 18, 2013 I know this makes me sound like a psychopath, but I often wonder if I could get away with murder. Goes without saying that I would never do it. But if I just went to the nearest park when it was dark, stabbed the first person who came past and then just went home to bed, surely I'd have a pretty good chance of getting away with it? No motive, no fingerprints/DNA on file, no murder weapon, no witnesses (probably) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVFC_Hitz Posted July 18, 2013 Share Posted July 18, 2013 I know this makes me sound like a psychopath, but I often wonder if I could get away with murder. Goes without saying that I would never do it. But if I just went to the nearest park when it was dark, stabbed the first person who came past and then just went home to bed, surely I'd have a pretty good chance of getting away with it? No motive, no fingerprints/DNA on file, no murder weapon, no witnesses (probably) Yeah but surely, somewhere around the park there'll be a CCTV cam with you on it. Walking into the park or walking out, the police'll send out a wanted poster and they'll get you one day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted July 18, 2013 VT Supporter Share Posted July 18, 2013 I know this makes me sound like a psychopath, but I often wonder if I could get away with murder. Goes without saying that I would never do it. But if I just went to the nearest park when it was dark, stabbed the first person who came past and then just went home to bed, surely I'd have a pretty good chance of getting away with it? No motive, no fingerprints/DNA on file, no murder weapon, no witnesses (probably) Yeah but surely, somewhere around the park there'll be a CCTV cam with you on it. Walking into the park or walking out, the police'll send out a wanted poster and they'll get you one day. Possibly. I'll have to cover my face with something... Erm, I mean, theoretically. Obviously. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
8pints Posted July 18, 2013 Share Posted July 18, 2013 (edited) What's that thing about the perfect murder? I think there's two. 1) Is if they live in a block of flats surrounded by other blocks and you get a bow and freeze an ice arrow then shoot it from one of the adjacent buildings, it melts before anyone gets to see it and you were never in the building so DNA plus the arrow is hard to see in it's trajectory so hard for witnesses to have spotted it. I guess they'd have to have their window open too and 2) You put poison in an ice cube and serve it to them in a drink. I think this one is more along the lines of there's a great chance they wouldn't be suspicious because surely the poison would be found in the autopsy? Basically, if you want to kill someone and have a good chance of getting away with it, use ice it seems. So the way to evade being killed is either watch out for guys like this or live in the desert. Edited July 18, 2013 by 8pints Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ender4 Posted July 18, 2013 Share Posted July 18, 2013 (edited) the first option is good, as long as your aim is good. the second option i don't understand, surely you can put poison into their drink rather than an ice-cube. plus the Feds will track down everyone who had an opportunity to tamper with the drink, once they do the autopsy and find it to be poison. Edited July 18, 2013 by ender4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eames Posted July 18, 2013 Share Posted July 18, 2013 I know this makes me sound like a psychopath, but I often wonder if I could get away with murder. Goes without saying that I would never do it. But if I just went to the nearest park when it was dark, stabbed the first person who came past and then just went home to bed, surely I'd have a pretty good chance of getting away with it? No motive, no fingerprints/DNA on file, no murder weapon, no witnesses (probably) Yeah but surely, somewhere around the park there'll be a CCTV cam with you on it. Walking into the park or walking out, the police'll send out a wanted poster and they'll get you one day. Possibly. I'll have to cover my face with something... Erm, I mean, theoretically. Obviously. Hmmm.... it would be a tricky one - you'd be better off leaving the knife at the scene - having a bloody knife at home may be a bit of a giveaway. You'd also have blood on your clothes and therefore the issue of disposal of them (black bag & bonfire?) . There is also a high likelyhood that when you got changed you'd have the trace evidence of blood on your skin which isn't as easy to get rid of as you might think. (blood under your finger nails) etc. If it was in a park you'd have trace evidence of your shoes linking you to the scene - shoe prints/transfer of materials etc. I'm onto you "Stabby Stevo" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted July 18, 2013 VT Supporter Share Posted July 18, 2013 (edited) Yeah but how would they even get so far as to be checking my house for murder weapons and bloody clothes? If I went out and committed a random murder with no motive and nothing left at the scene, how would they even know where to start? Genuine questions by the way, I'm always fascinated by how quickly the police get suspects in murder cases. But obviously there's usually motives and evidence. Edited July 18, 2013 by Stevo985 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eames Posted July 18, 2013 Share Posted July 18, 2013 Yeah but how would they even get so far as to be checking my house for murder weapons and bloody clothes? If I went out and committed a random murder with no motive and nothing left at the scene, how would they even know where to start? Genuine questions by the way, I'm always fascinated by how quickly the police get suspects in murder cases. But obviously there's usually motives and evidence. We'd find you. Cropped hair, Baseball snap back..... you fit the profile of a typical villain. You'd be amazed what evidence we could "find" that would tie you to the scene. You're going dahn harder than a pornstar at a blow job competition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shillzz Posted July 18, 2013 Share Posted July 18, 2013 I've often thought the same. Upon committing said act, I could even leave DNA everywhere and it would not make the tiniest bit of difference. I have no police record, and nothing to attach me to the victim. As long as I am careful enough with concealing my identity, then I think it's pretty do-able. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dont_do_it_doug. Posted July 18, 2013 Share Posted July 18, 2013 It's complicated! The only real solid tie between them is the compulsion to kill is almost completely irresistible. In my opinion that makes them all, every single one of them, mentally ill. Well society should be grateful to you and your in depth research and analysis, we can all sleep safe in our beds now you've figured that one out. The thing with serial killers I always wonder is just how many are out there that don't get caught, there must be plenty which in turn makes you wonder about those people who 'run away' or 'go missing'. Ha! I got the impression nobody really wanted to go into it. I could start another thread I guess. I wonder how many are active right now, particularly in the UK? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
8pints Posted July 18, 2013 Share Posted July 18, 2013 the second option i don't understand, surely you can put poison into their drink rather than an ice-cube. plus the Feds will track down everyone who had an opportunity to tamper with the drink, once they do the autopsy and find it to be poison. On further investigation I found the ice-cube part is part of the deception where the murderer has a sip of the drink before putting the ice cubes in, this makes it appear the drink is safe and the reason the poison is in the ice cubes but like you say and I alluded to, surely the poison being in the body would be a big clue for the police and would want to know who gave them the drink/had drinks with them? unless the idea is to have the ice-cubes with you and slip them in to the drink incognito without anyone knowing you're there, whilst they're having drinks with someone else maybe? Framing them in the process!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coda Posted July 18, 2013 Share Posted July 18, 2013 I reckon I could kill someone (theoretically) and pin the blame on some other poor sucker. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrentVilla Posted July 18, 2013 Moderator Share Posted July 18, 2013 Yeah but how would they even get so far as to be checking my house for murder weapons and bloody clothes? If I went out and committed a random murder with no motive and nothing left at the scene, how would they even know where to start? Genuine questions by the way, I'm always fascinated by how quickly the police get suspects in murder cases. But obviously there's usually motives and evidence. They would literally just trawl hours and hours of CCTV footage, you are rarely far from a camera these days. They would identify everyone in the area and systematically work through them eliminating them from their enquires until they had a suspect or suspects. Anyone they couldn't trace I'd imagine would be considered suspects. Once they have narrowed it down to a few people or a person they would track on CCTV away from the scene as far as they could which would likely lead to a car, an address or certainly a populated area giving yet more camera's and eye witnesses. In decades past I think it would be very easy, these days not so much. It's complicated! The only real solid tie between them is the compulsion to kill is almost completely irresistible. In my opinion that makes them all, every single one of them, mentally ill. Well society should be grateful to you and your in depth research and analysis, we can all sleep safe in our beds now you've figured that one out. The thing with serial killers I always wonder is just how many are out there that don't get caught, there must be plenty which in turn makes you wonder about those people who 'run away' or 'go missing'. Ha! I got the impression nobody really wanted to go into it. I could start another thread I guess. I wonder how many are active right now, particularly in the UK? Well I think I've spotted one in our midst.... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted July 18, 2013 VT Supporter Share Posted July 18, 2013 Hmmm, my house backs onto a park. Fairly sure I could hop the fence, murder the first passer by, and get back into my house without ever stepping out of the darkness. But I guess, as you say, if they couldn't find any trace of a killer they'd probably think "Well it might be someone who lived in those houses there that could get here and back without ever stepping out of the darkness!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOF Posted July 18, 2013 Moderator Share Posted July 18, 2013 I just wanna say 'Hi' to the NSA 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarewsEyebrowDesigner Posted July 18, 2013 Share Posted July 18, 2013 *bookmarks page just in case* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villarule123 Posted July 18, 2013 VT Supporter Share Posted July 18, 2013 I'd imagine in 10-20 years time they will be up in space being able to record any part of the world Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hogso Posted July 18, 2013 Share Posted July 18, 2013 I have a strong and deep rooted interest in serial killers. For me it's attempting to understand why, what drives them, what motivates them. Also, it's a real life scary story and who doesn't like being scared once in a while? Did you watch Murdered at Horror Hotel last night? It was AWESOME. Followed H.H.Holmes' killing career from when he started to when he was caught. Fascinating, even if you're interested in serial killers anyways, he was very unique. He first killed for money, then cos he liked it, with the sexual stuff coming at a later stage, which is highly unusual. If you didn't see it, I imagine it's on 5's on demand thing. Well worth a watch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
choffer Posted July 18, 2013 VT Supporter Share Posted July 18, 2013 I'd imagine in 10-20 years time they will be up in space being able to record any part of the world Facial recognition will be the next big thing in surveillance. If Facebook can recognise your mug, then plod will have it before you know it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted July 18, 2013 Moderator Share Posted July 18, 2013 I'd imagine in 10-20 years time they will be up in space being able to record any part of the worldFacial recognition will be the next big thing in surveillance. If Facebook can recognise your mug, then plod will have it before you know it.They've had it for absolutely ages Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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