stuart_75 Posted September 6 Share Posted September 6 Everyone on here has one of those "mouse-jiggler" USB dongles ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjmooney Posted September 6 VT Supporter Share Posted September 6 Christ, I'm glad I'm retired. Although tbf, working for a university was relatively civilised and free from that sort of management attitude. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rds1983 Posted September 6 VT Supporter Share Posted September 6 (edited) 1 hour ago, Stevo985 said: We have the 3 day a week rule, but it's not enforced like that Out of principle I think if you start monitoring workers like that it's a bad move The Bank I work for has a 40% rule for office attendance. Not hitting it is a disciplinary matter and a breach of conduct. Reasoning being they're contracted to be in the office (unless home workers), it's better for collaborative working and not doing so isn't fair to everyone else who is doing ad they're meant to. However, colleagues are given multiple chances to fix it (polite conversation, then informal disciplinary, then formal etc) and start going in 40%. It is most definitely being tracked based off card swipes. I do data privacy in the HR department so see anything to do with colleagues data and have worked on these initiatives to ensure GDPR compliance (especially in regards to monitoring). I'm just outlining work's policy here and not making any comment on my personal thoughts about it. Having also led policy and compliance audits on all the Big 4, I'm amazed it's taken them this long to introduce the policy. Edited September 6 by Rds1983 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomav84 Posted September 6 VT Supporter Share Posted September 6 10 minutes ago, Rds1983 said: The Bank I work for has a 40% rule for office attendance. Not hitting it is a disciplinary matter and a breach of conduct. Reasoning being they're contracted to be in the office (unless home workers), it's better for collaborative working and not doing so isn't fair to everyone else who is doing ad they're meant to. However, colleagues are given multiple chances to fix it (polite conversation, then informal disciplinary, then formal etc) and start going in 40%. It is most definitely being tracked based off card swipes. I do data privacy in the HR department so see anything to do with colleagues data and have worked on these initiatives to ensure GDPR compliance (especially in regards to monitoring). I'm just outlining work's policy here and not making any comment on my personal thoughts about it. same as my place. a guy i work with works from home every day during office hours. once the mrs has come home and the kids are sorted, he pops to the office and swipes in his boss is in NY so is none the wiser! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rds1983 Posted September 6 VT Supporter Share Posted September 6 1 minute ago, tomav84 said: same as my place. a guy i work with works from home every day during office hours. once the mrs has come home and the kids are sorted, he pops to the office and swipes in his boss is in NY so is none the wiser! I've heard stories of people doing the same and even swiping in when they use the 5-a-side pitches on a Saturday morning. I'd maybe warm him that just because they're not currently tracking time in the office and probably only monitoring 'days', that doesn't mean they won't monitor time in the future. Many firms are only on early phases of launching things like this and will make changes in future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomav84 Posted September 6 VT Supporter Share Posted September 6 10 minutes ago, Rds1983 said: I've heard stories of people doing the same and even swiping in when they use the 5-a-side pitches on a Saturday morning. I'd maybe warm him that just because they're not currently tracking time in the office and probably only monitoring 'days', that doesn't mean they won't monitor time in the future. Many firms are only on early phases of launching things like this and will make changes in future. i think before this happens, someone will grass him up. there are parents here that make it work, coming in their 3 days and doing their time; seeing someone play the system would give them the hump and it's only a matter of time before they say something to someone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fightoffyour Posted September 6 VT Supporter Share Posted September 6 59 minutes ago, tomav84 said: i think before this happens, someone will grass him up. there are parents here that make it work, coming in their 3 days and doing their time; seeing someone play the system would give them the hump and it's only a matter of time before they say something to someone shit 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hogso Posted September 6 Share Posted September 6 1 hour ago, Rds1983 said: The Bank I work for has a 40% rule for office attendance. Not hitting it is a disciplinary matter and a breach of conduct. Reasoning being they're contracted to be in the office (unless home workers), it's better for collaborative working and not doing so isn't fair to everyone else who is doing ad they're meant to. However, colleagues are given multiple chances to fix it (polite conversation, then informal disciplinary, then formal etc) and start going in 40%. In the Civil Service this is largely how it works now. However, some departments - HMRC and Home Office to name two - enforced 60% from April with the same lines for disciplinary action written in to their HR guidelines. Here in the DWP we'd really struggle to move to 60%. We shrank the size of the estate across the country during the last couple of years with 40% attendance in mind, and it would be tough, but not impossible, to get us to 60% now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Follyfoot Posted September 6 VT Supporter Share Posted September 6 16 minutes ago, hogso said: In the Civil Service this is largely how it works now. However, some departments - HMRC and Home Office to name two - enforced 60% from April with the same lines for disciplinary action written in to their HR guidelines. Here in the DWP we'd really struggle to move to 60%. We shrank the size of the estate across the country during the last couple of years with 40% attendance in mind, and it would be tough, but not impossible, to get us to 60% now. is it HMRC or the HMRC? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xela Posted September 6 Share Posted September 6 2 hours ago, Rds1983 said: The Bank I work for has a 40% rule for office attendance. Not hitting it is a disciplinary matter and a breach of conduct. Reasoning being they're contracted to be in the office (unless home workers), it's better for collaborative working and not doing so isn't fair to everyone else who is doing ad they're meant to. However, colleagues are given multiple chances to fix it (polite conversation, then informal disciplinary, then formal etc) and start going in 40%. It is most definitely being tracked based off card swipes. I do data privacy in the HR department so see anything to do with colleagues data and have worked on these initiatives to ensure GDPR compliance (especially in regards to monitoring). I'm just outlining work's policy here and not making any comment on my personal thoughts about it. Having also led policy and compliance audits on all the Big 4, I'm amazed it's taken them this long to introduce the policy. 60% at the Bank I'm at. Not rigorously monitored as of yet, although they are capturing the data. I think it'll be written into our objectives for 2025. My big issue is that the office is absolutely rammed Tue-Thu. Meeting rooms fully booked out. Can't hear myself think sometimes. I often have to log on when I get home to catch up. I've had to decline zoom meetings with clients as I can't get anywhere to have the call in private. That can't be productive. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xela Posted September 6 Share Posted September 6 3 hours ago, mjmooney said: Christ, I'm glad I'm retired. Although tbf, working for a university was relatively civilised and free from that sort of management attitude. Lot of people at my place are taking early retirement now as the downsides now outweigh the good things about work. Losing a lot of experience and knowledge, and being replaced by people that simply don't care and won't go the extra mile. Its just a tick on a CV before they move on to another role in a couple of years. The way they treat staff nowadays, its not a surprise. I dread to think what it will look like in ten years! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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