CarewsEyebrowDesigner Posted January 23, 2012 Share Posted January 23, 2012 It's certainly not a movie that everyone will enjoy, but I think the ending works perfectly. It helps if you've read Heart of Darkness (or, at least get the gist of it), but it isn't essential. And aye, the Redux has some interesting scenes, mostly to do with the history of Vietnam (french colonisation and all that) and a few more tits on show, but ultimately it's bloated and the pace suffers as a result. It's rare that an extended version of a film improves the theatrical cut, as more often than not the good editors get the big calls right. Blade Runner an obvious exception, but that was less an extension and more of a reworking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjmooney Posted January 24, 2012 VT Supporter Share Posted January 24, 2012 I've always preferred The Deer Hunter to Apocalypse Now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chindie Posted January 24, 2012 VT Supporter Share Posted January 24, 2012 I actually quite like Apocalypse Now Redux. A bit more of a possible nugget of info has dropped for Avengers - Skrulls are not in it, according to Marvel Studioes Kevin Feige. He's hinted that the baddies are an established feature of Marvel comics, but rather than Skrulls he's indicated that they are something from one of the 'realms' that the Thor mythology brings to the party, which are all mentioned in the Thor film. This immediately lowers my expectations further, because the 'realms' idea was idiotic in the first place and the established races from them, asides from the one they've already dealt with, are shite. There's been some talk that the Skrulls were an option (they were in the now canned videogame adaptation) but then it appeared that Fox had the rights to the characters and thus, Marvel were ****. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
choffer Posted January 24, 2012 VT Supporter Share Posted January 24, 2012 Oscar Noms released: BEST PICTURE The Artist The Descendants Extremely Loud & Incredibly Close The Help Hugo Midnight in Paris Moneyball The Tree of Life War Horse BEST DIRECTOR The Artist - Michel Hazanavicius The Descendants - Alexander Payne Hugo - Martin Scorsese Midnight in Paris - Woody Allen The Tree of Life - Terrence Malick BEST ACTOR Demián Bichir - A Better Life George Clooney - The Descendants Jean Dujardin - The Artist Gary Oldman - Tinker Tailor Soldier Spy Brad Pitt -Moneyball BEST SUPPORTING ACTOR Kenneth Branagh - My Week with Marilyn Jonah Hill - Moneyball Nick Nolte - Warrior Christopher Plummer - Beginners Max von Sydow - Extremely Loud & Incredibly Close BEST ACTRESS Glenn Close - Albert Nobbs Viola Davis - The Help Rooney Mara - The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo Meryl Streep - The Iron Lady Michelle Williams - My Week with Marilyn BEST SUPPORTING ACTRESS Bérénice Bejo - The Artist Jessica Chastain - The Help Melissa McCarthy - Bridesmaids Janet McTeer - Albert Nobbs Octavia Spencer - The Help BEST ANIMATED FILM A Cat in Paris Chico & Rita Kung Fu Panda 2 Puss in Boots Rango BEST ADAPTED SCREENPLAY The Descendants - Alexander Payne and Nat Faxon & Jim Rash Hugo - John Logan The Ides of March - George Clooney & Grant Heslov and Beau Willimon Moneyball - Steven Zaillian and Aaron Sorkin Story by Stan Chervin Tinker Tailor Soldier Spy - Bridget O’Connor & Peter Straughan BEST ORIGINAL SCREENPLAY The Artist - Michel Hazanavicius Bridesmaids - Annie Mumolo & Kristen Wiig Margin Call - J.C. Chandor Midnight in Paris - Woody Allen A Separation - Asghar Farhadi ART DIRECTION The Artist - Production Design: Laurence Bennett, Set Decoration: Robert Gould Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows Part 2 – Production Design: Stuart Craig, Set Decoration: Stephenie McMillan Hugo - Production Design: Dante Ferretti, Set Decoration: Francesca Lo Schiavo Midnight in Paris - Production Design: Anne Seibel, Set Decoration: Hélène Dubreuil War Horse - Production Design: Rick Carter, Set Decoration: Lee Sandales CINEMATOGRAPHY The Artist - Guillaume Schiffman The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo - Jeff Cronenweth Hugo - Robert Richardson The Tree of Life - Emmanuel Lubezki War Horse - Janusz Kaminski COSTUME DESIGN Anonymous - Lisy Christl The Artist - Mark Bridges Hugo - Sandy Powell Jane Eyre - Michael O’Connor W.E. - Arianne Phillips BEST DOCUMENTARY FEATURE Hell and Back Again If a Tree Falls: A Story of the Earth Liberation Front Paradise Lost 3: Purgatory Pina Undefeated BEST DOCUMENTARY SHORT The Barber of Birmingham: Foot Soldier of the Civil Rights Movement God Is the Bigger Elvis Incident in New Baghdad Saving Face The Tsunami and the Cherry Blossom BEST FILM EDITING The Artist - Anne-Sophie Bion and Michel Hazanavicius The Descendants - Kevin Tent The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo - Kirk Baxter and Angus Wall Hugo - Thelma Schoonmaker Moneyball - Christopher Tellefsen BEST FOREIGN LANGUAGE FILM Bullhead - Belgium Footnote - Israel In Darkness - Poland Monsieur Lazhar - Canada A Separation - Iran BEST MAKEUP Albert Nobbs - Martial Corneville, Lynn Johnston and Matthew W. Mungle Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows Part 2 - Nick Dudman, Amanda Knight and Lisa Tomblin The Iron Lady - Mark Coulier and J. Roy Helland BEST ORIGINAL SCORE The Adventures of Tintin - John Williams The Artist - Ludovic Bource Hugo - Howard Shore Tinker Tailor Soldier Spy - Alberto Iglesias War Horse - John Williams BEST ORIGINAL SONG Man or Muppet - The Muppets, Music and Lyric by Bret McKenzie Real in Rio – Rio, Music by Sergio Mendes and Carlinhos Brown Lyric by Siedah Garrett BEST ANIMATED SHORT Dimanche/Sunday - Patrick Doyon The Fantastic Flying Books of Mr. Morris Lessmore - William Joyce and Brandon Oldenburg La Luna - Enrico Casarosa A Morning Stroll - Grant Orchard and Sue Goffe Wild Life - Amanda Forbis and Wendy Tilby BEST LIVE FILM Pentecost - Peter McDonald and Eimear O’Kane Raju - Max Zähle and Stefan Gieren The Shore - Terry George and Oorlagh George Time Freak - Andrew Bowler and Gigi Causey Tuba Atlantic - Hallvar Witzø BEST SOUND EDITING Drive - Lon Bender and Victor Ray Ennis The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo - Ren Klyce Hugo - Philip Stockton and Eugene Gearty Transformers: Dark of the Moon - Ethan Van der Ryn and Erik Aadahl War Horse - Richard Hymns and Gary Rydstrom BEST SOUND MIXING The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo - David Parker, Michael Semanick, Ren Klyce and Bo Persson Hugo - Tom Fleischman and John Midgley Moneyball - Deb Adair, Ron Bochar, Dave Giammarco and Ed Novick Transformers: Dark of the Moon - Greg P. Russell, Gary Summers, Jeffrey J. Haboush and Peter J. Devlin War Horse - Gary Rydstrom, Andy Nelson, Tom Johnson and Stuart Wilson BEST VISUAL EFFECTS Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows Part 2 - Tim Burke, David Vickery, Greg Butler and John Richardson Hugo - Rob Legato, Joss Williams, Ben Grossman and Alex Henning Real Steel - Erik Nash, John Rosengrant, Dan Taylor and Swen Gillberg Rise of the Planet of the Apes - Joe Letteri, Dan Lemmon, R. Christopher White and Daniel Barrett Transformers: Dark of the Moon - Scott Farrar, Scott Benza, Matthew Butler and John Frazier Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
packoman Posted January 24, 2012 Share Posted January 24, 2012 BEST PICTURE The Artist The Descendants Extremely Loud & Incredibly Close The Help Hugo Midnight in Paris Moneyball The Tree of Life War Horse Haven't seen any of them yet BEST SUPPORTING ACTOR Nick Nolte - Warrior Hope he wins, he was brilliant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Designer1 Posted January 24, 2012 VT Supporter Share Posted January 24, 2012 Looking forward to seeing Haywire tomorrow night. As a Soderbergh fan, I'm interested to see how he handles a 'pure' action thriller. It also has the added bonus of another David Holmes soundtrack, which is always a good thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted January 24, 2012 Share Posted January 24, 2012 9 films up for best picture? i thought theyd changed it to 10 i agree with tim bevan's rant last week that the oscars have become too overhyped and focus too heavily on promotion, TTSS has 11 bafta nominations and yet was expected to do absolutely nothing here, there are better films that havent had the nod, extremely loud and incredibly close has had really poor reviews no tin tin for best animated film is the biggest shocker IMO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ingram85 Posted January 24, 2012 Share Posted January 24, 2012 How does this work in terms of when films come out? My beef is thus: When did Super 8 come out? How that has not been nominated for best cgi or sfx or whatever is ridiculous. The train crash scene alone is simply the most impressive cgi I have ever seen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hogso Posted January 24, 2012 Share Posted January 24, 2012 'mon Cat in Paris Oh, and no Into the Abyss in docus? Sucks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pelle Posted January 27, 2012 Share Posted January 27, 2012 I've finally seen Schindler's list, only about 20 years too late. What a film that is. Ralph Fiennes was exceptional, I think. A film that brings up a lot of feelings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
legov Posted January 27, 2012 Share Posted January 27, 2012 I've finally seen Schindler's list, only about 20 years too late. What a film that is. Ralph Fiennes was exceptional, I think. A film that brings up a lot of feelings. Indeed. Although it was a bit cliche, still a great film though. I'll need to watch American Beauty again I think, just finished watching it a few minutes ago and didn't really get it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rodders Posted January 27, 2012 Share Posted January 27, 2012 given I'm currently doing a course on holocaust testimony I really ought to watch Schindlers List at some point. Recently watched A Self Made Hero ( Un Hero Indiscret ) a French film from 1996 about a chap who invents an identity for himself in postwar France or as a line from the film puts it at: "... and so nine months and 2 weeks after the Liberation of France, Albert Delhouse joined The Resistance" amusing and and makes a few points about remembrance in general along the way. 8/10 Also watched two adaptations of Dostoyevsky short story 'White Nights' which is about dreamers, lost lives, and love to give you no clue at all about its plot ( honestly that was a terrible summary ) First one was an Italian effort Le Notte Bianche - a b/w stylised effort moving it from 1840s Russia to 1950's Rome. Its a good effort both in its adaptation and as a stand-alone story, though honestly, maybe its just the emotionally dead Brit in me the hysterical outpourings of emotion and love are somewhat wearisome, not to mention a bit sexist, but hell I suppose it was made by and starred Italians, for whom 'getting a grip' has been evidentally banned from their lexicon. Second one is by Robert Bresson Four Nights of a Dreamer - set in France in the 70's. Which is crap. Adapting a dialogue heavy original and replacing it what what can be best be thought of as typically 60's gallic shruggery and pouting glances, giving the male lead the appearance of an utter perverted creep. Like the italian version quite heavy on the masculinity ( in France! quelle surprise! ) and there is absolutely no plausible chemistry between the leads. I kept wishing there would be an unexpected violent twist and a giant shark would leap from the canal and eat them. Mais, ca n'arrive pas! 2/10 Going to check out the new Sherlock film tonight now for a welcome change of scene. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coda Posted January 27, 2012 Share Posted January 27, 2012 given I'm currently doing a course on holocaust testimony I really ought to watch Schindlers List at some point. If you've got the time watch Shoah. It's over nine hours and absolutely heartbreaking to hear what went on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rodders Posted January 27, 2012 Share Posted January 27, 2012 given I'm currently doing a course on holocaust testimony I really ought to watch Schindlers List at some point. If you've got the time watch Shoah. It's over nine hours and absolutely heartbreaking to hear what went on. I have it on my to watch list with a friend. It's International Holocaust Memorial Day today as it happens ( anniversary of the liberation of Auschwitz ). Also recommendable is : Night and Fog on Youtube Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coda Posted January 27, 2012 Share Posted January 27, 2012 I watched about half of that Night and Fog and had to turn it off. Too graphic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Designer1 Posted January 27, 2012 VT Supporter Share Posted January 27, 2012 I watched about half of that Night and Fog and had to turn it off. Too graphic. It certainly leaves a mark. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
briggaman Posted January 28, 2012 Share Posted January 28, 2012 A few days on and I still don't understand how Gosling isn't up for best actor. He was fantastic in both 'Drive' and 'The Ides of March' and is one of the best actors out there. How he hasn't been considered in the past is also beyond me. He's great in 'Blue Valentine', 'Lars and the Real Girl' and 'Half Nelson'. I have yet to see a bad performance from him, yet somehow an Oscar remains out of his reach. 'Drive' itself should have been up for more than one award too in my opinion. On the cinema front I have been to see 'Shame' and 'Like Crazy' most recently (the latter just yesterday). 'Shame' is a very emotional film and one that many people may find too much. I personally thought it was extremely good and the downward spiral is rather heartbreaking. Fantastic performance from Fassbender (another overlooked Oscar contender) and shot beautifully. 'Like Crazy' on the other hand was quite a good romantic film. Two good performances from the leads and a good story overall. I also liked the ending, which I won't spoil for those of you going to see it. Abrupt yet effective is probably the best way I can describe it. I did feel a little let down by the overall film, yet still thought it was quite good. Off to see 'The Descendants' today or tomorrow and then 'Chronicle' later in the week. I'm really looking forward to seeing them both. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big_John_10 Posted January 28, 2012 Share Posted January 28, 2012 Put tree of life on last night and turned it off after 40 minutes, don't really know why I gave it that long. A god awful film and possibly the most bored I've ever been watching a film. Watched the interrupters on Netflix in the week and really enjoyed it, good documentary. Also watched catching hell, a documentary about how a fan became the most hated man in Chicago when trying to catch a foul ball at a baseball game. Another really good documentary worth watching. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KevMur Posted January 28, 2012 Share Posted January 28, 2012 Saw 'The Descendants' yesterday. Well written movie, some very good performances, and it makes you think about life, death & family. Having said that, something about it left me a little cold. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted January 28, 2012 Share Posted January 28, 2012 Also watched catching hell, a documentary about how a fan became the most hated man in Chicago when trying to catch a foul ball at a baseball game. Another really good documentary worth watching. where did you see that? was it the espn 30 for 30 documentary? they advertised them loads a few years back when i was in the states on holiday but i havent found any way of watching them over here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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