The Film Thread

[BOF]

2 minutes ago, Designer1 said:

Haven't seen 31 or 89.

Good list overall though. 

You've seen everything else?

[Designer1]

Yes.

[Designer1]

Just realised there's no Donnie Darko on there.

Which pretty much means the list is null and void and a total waste of time 

[BOF]

2 minutes ago, Designer1 said:

Just realised there's no Donnie Darko on there.

Which pretty much means the list is null and void and a total waste of time 

Oh I dunno. I think that kind of adds to the list's credibility Nightcrawler on the other hand ...

[Designer1]

1 minute ago, BOF said:

Oh I dunno. I think that kind of adds to the list's credibility Nightcrawler on the other hand ...

Both great, but DD is my second favourite movie of all time and really needs to be on the list. 

[Mark Albrighton]

Looking at that list of films from the 21st century prompts this response...

 

[BOF]

21 minutes ago, Designer1 said:

Both great, but DD is my second favourite movie of all time and really needs to be on the list. 

Interesting.  Can you tell me why you love Donnie Darko?  It seems an incredibly divisive movie.  I know other people who know their films too who think it's an absolute pile of pretentious shit.  I don't have particularly strong feelings on it either way but I don't feel like giving it a re-watch either at the same time.

[BOF]

And just for interest's sake, what say you @Designer1, here's what a mate of mine wrote about what's missing from that list IHHO.

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Irreversible and Enter The Void should definitely be on there. Also Bellville rendevous, Capturing the Friedmans, Grizzly Man, Whiplash, Room, Jagten (the hunt), Untergang (Downfall), and not forgetting......Lord of the **** Rings

 

[snowychap]

1 hour ago, BOF said:

international film crickets

This bugs me.

[BOF]

1 minute ago, snowychap said:

This bugs me.

I see what you did there.  And also on a related note it doesn't 'bug' you as much as that "top 100" containing 101 films and only 93 of them being 21st century 'bugs' me

[Designer1]

13 minutes ago, BOF said:

Interesting.  Can you tell me why you love Donnie Darko?

 

The setting, the music, the acting, the direction, the simple-on-the-surface yet very complex story (there's some excellent articles online breaking the whole thing down and the level of detail is fantastic) the whole mood of the piece and the fact that it works on so many different levels (metaphysical / social for example) and it's ability to switch between genres without being jarring.

He (Richard Kelly) did the old 'catching lightning in a bottle' and as he's shown since, he'll never write or direct anything like it again.

It's unique, fascinating, and I love every single frame of it.

Just avoid the Directors Cut, and the less said about the 'sequel' the better

Edited August 24, 2016 by Designer1

[villa4europe]

1 hour ago, BOF said:

I leave this here for your perusery pleasure.  If there's one thing better than a list, it's disagreeing with someone else's.  The BBC polled some international film crickets to see what the 100 best films of the 21st century are.  Now far be it from me to point out that the year 2000 is technically still in the 20th century, but anyhoo, here's what they came up with.

100. Requiem for a Dream (Darren Aronofsky, 2000)
100. Carlos (Olivier Assayas, 2010)
99. The Gleaners and I (Agnès Varda, 2000)
98. Ten (Abbas Kiarostami, 2002)
97. White Material (Claire Denis, 2009)
96. Finding Nemo (Andrew Stanton, 2003)
95. Moonrise Kingdom (Wes Anderson, 2012)
94. Let the Right One In (Tomas Alfredson, 2008)
93. Ratatouille (Brad Bird, 2007)
92. The Assassination of Jesse James by the Coward Robert Ford (Andrew Dominik, 2007)
91. The Secret in Their Eyes (Juan José Campanella, 2009)
90. The Pianist (Roman Polanski, 2002)
89. The Headless Woman (Lucrecia Martel, 2008)
88. Spotlight (Tom McCarthy, 2015)
87. Amélie (Jean-Pierre Jeunet, 2001)
86. Far From Heaven (Todd Haynes, 2002)
85. A Prophet (Jacques Audiard, 2009)
84. Her (Spike Jonze, 2013)
83. A.I. Artificial Intelligence (Steven Spielberg, 2001)
82. A Serious Man (Joel and Ethan Coen, 2009)
81. Shame (Steve McQueen, 2011)
80. The Return (Andrey Zvyagintsev, 2003)
79. Almost Famous (Cameron Crowe, 2000)
78. The Wolf of Wall Street (Martin Scorsese, 2013)
77. The Diving Bell and the Butterfly (Julian Schnabel, 2007)
76. Dogville (Lars von Trier, 2003)
75. Inherent Vice (Paul Thomas Anderson, 2014)
74. Spring Breakers (Harmony Korine, 2012)
73. Before Sunset (Richard Linklater, 2004)
72. Only Lovers Left Alive (Jim Jarmusch, 2013)
71. Tabu (Miguel Gomes, 2012)
70. Stories We Tell (Sarah Polley, 2012)
69. Carol (Todd Haynes, 2015)
68. The Royal Tenenbaums (Wes Anderson, 2001)
67. The Hurt Locker (Kathryn Bigelow, 2008)
66. Spring, Summer, Fall, Winter…and Spring (Kim Ki-duk, 2003)
65. Fish Tank (Andrea Arnold, 2009)
64. The Great Beauty (Paolo Sorrentino, 2013)
63. The Turin Horse (Béla Tarr and Ágnes Hranitzky, 2011)
62. Inglourious Basterds (Quentin Tarantino, 2009)
61. Under the Skin (Jonathan Glazer, 2013)
60. Syndromes and a Century (Apichatpong Weerasethakul, 2006)
59. A History of Violence (David Cronenberg, 2005)
58. Moolaadé (Ousmane Sembène, 2004)
57. Zero Dark Thirty (Kathryn Bigelow, 2012)
56. Werckmeister Harmonies (Béla Tarr, director; Ágnes Hranitzky, co-director, 2000)
55. Ida (Paweł Pawlikowski, 2013)
54. Once Upon a Time in Anatolia (Nuri Bilge Ceylan, 2011)
53. Moulin Rouge! (Baz Luhrmann, 2001)
52. Tropical Malady (Apichatpong Weerasethakul, 2004)
51. Inception (Christopher Nolan, 2010)
50. The Assassin (Hou Hsiao-hsien, 2015)
49. Goodbye to Language (Jean-Luc Godard, 2014)
48. Brooklyn (John Crowley, 2015)
47. Leviathan (Andrey Zvyagintsev, 2014)
46. Certified Copy (Abbas Kiarostami, 2010)
45. Blue Is the Warmest Color (Abdellatif Kechiche, 2013)
44. 12 Years a Slave (Steve McQueen, 2013)
43. Melancholia (Lars von Trier, 2011)
42. Amour (Michael Haneke, 2012)
41. Inside Out (Pete Docter, 2015)
40. Brokeback Mountain (Ang Lee, 2005)
39. The New World (Terrence Malick, 2005)
38. City of God (Fernando Meirelles and Kátia Lund, 2002)
37. Uncle Boonmee Who Can Recall His Past Lives (Apichatpong Weerasethakul, 2010)
36. Timbuktu (Abderrahmane Sissako, 2014)
35. Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon (Ang Lee, 2000)
34. Son of Saul (László Nemes, 2015)
33. The Dark Knight (Christopher Nolan, 2008)
32. The Lives of Others (Florian Henckel von Donnersmarck, 2006)
31. Margaret (Kenneth Lonergan, 2011)
30. Oldboy (Park Chan-wook, 2003)
29. WALL-E (Andrew Stanton, 2008)
28. Talk to Her (Pedro Almodóvar, 2002)
27. The Social Network (David Fincher, 2010)
26. 25th Hour (Spike Lee, 2002)
25. Memento (Christopher Nolan, 2000)
24. The Master (Paul Thomas Anderson, 2012)
23. Caché (Michael Haneke, 2005)
22. Lost in Translation (Sofia Coppola, 2003)
21. The Grand Budapest Hotel (Wes Anderson, 2014)
20. Synecdoche, New York (Charlie Kaufman, 2008)
19. Mad Max: Fury Road (George Miller, 2015)
18. The White Ribbon (Michael Haneke, 2009)
17. Pan's Labyrinth (Guillermo Del Toro, 2006)
16. Holy Motors (Leos Carax, 2012)
15. 4 Months, 3 Weeks and 2 Days (Cristian Mungiu, 2007)
14. The Act of Killing (Joshua Oppenheimer, 2012)
13. Children of Men (Alfonso Cuarón, 2006)
12. Zodiac (David Fincher, 2007)
11. Inside Llewyn Davis (Joel and Ethan Coen, 2013)
10. No Country for Old Men (Joel and Ethan Coen, 2007)
9. A Separation (Asghar Farhadi, 2011)
8. Yi Yi: A One and a Two (Edward Yang, 2000)
7. The Tree of Life (Terrence Malick, 2011)
6. Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind (Michel Gondry, 2004)
5. Boyhood (Richard Linklater, 2014)
4. Spirited Away (Hayao Miyazaki, 2001)
3. There Will Be Blood (Paul Thomas Anderson, 2007)
2. In the Mood for Love (Wong Kar-wai, 2000)
1. Mulholland Drive (David Lynch, 2001)

bolded the ones ive seen

please that children of men is so high, i love that film, also that 4 months, 3 weeks, 2 days made the list

shocked that inside out, royal tenenbaums, serious man, 25th hour and spring breakers are on there, there will be blood is shockingly overrated too

would say after a really quick look there are i think 11 best picture oscar winners not made that list

[Designer1]

14 minutes ago, BOF said:

And just for interest's sake, what say you @Designer1, here's what a mate of mine wrote about what's missing from that list IHHO.

 

I absolutely hated Enter the Void, Noe disappeared up his own arse with that one. Irreversible is brilliant though, albeit in a completely horrible way. It's a film i've only ever 'experienced' once. To say that it was enjoyable would be a lie, but it definitely stayed with me.

Haven't seen Capturing the Friedmans but the others are good movies, Whiplash in particular was a glaring omission.

Those lists are always the same though aren't they? The word 'definitive' should never, ever be used when in conjunction with something as subjective as film.

[BOF]

3 minutes ago, villa4europe said:

bolded the ones ive seen

please that children of men is so high, i love that film, also that 4 months, 3 weeks, 2 days made the list

shocked that inside out, royal tenenbaums, serious man, 25th hour and spring breakers are on there, there will be blood is shockingly overrated too

would say after a really quick look there are i think 11 best picture oscar winners not made that list

I guess I was just in the mood to watch a film of that pace that day, because that's still one of the best cinema experiences I've ever had.  An absolute masterpiece from start to finish and I just remember leaving the cinema thinking 'wow'.

[useless]

84. Her (Spike Jonze, 2013)
73. Before Sunset (Richard Linklater, 2004)
62. Inglourious Basterds (Quentin Tarantino, 2009)
54. Once Upon a Time in Anatolia (Nuri Bilge Ceylan, 2011)
44. 12 Years a Slave (Steve McQueen, 2013)
41. Inside Out (Pete Docter, 2015)
39. The New World (Terrence Malick, 2005)
24. The Master (Paul Thomas Anderson, 2012)
10. No Country for Old Men (Joel and Ethan Coen, 2007)
7. The Tree of Life (Terrence Malick, 2011)
4. Spirited Away (Hayao Miyazaki, 2001)
3. There Will Be Blood (Paul Thomas Anderson, 2007)
1. Mulholland Drive (David Lynch, 2001)

Those are the ones I've seen. Of those enjoyed, There will Be Blood, Spirited Away, The Tree of Life, The Master, The New World, Once Upon a Time in Anatolia and Inside Out was alright. I agree with Mulholland Drive being in top spot. Surprised that Big Hero Six or the Man Who Wasn't There, weren't included.

 

[Designer1]

Just now, useless said:

The Man Who Wasn't There
 

[villa4europe]

i probably wasnt because i found it boring if im honest

having a bit of a better look about the oscars thing, some big films missing (apologies if i read the 100 too quick and got this wrong) i think out of the 110 best picture nominations in the last 16 years 21 of them made that list, 89 of them missing... 

spring breakers made that list but the likes of the departed didnt

[theboyangel]

How in hell did Spring Breakers get on that list??? Utter garbage

[Rodders]

Surprised I've seen quite a few of those. My "beef" such as it is, with subjective lists is with Mulholland Drive. Found it utterly baffling to watch and was just confused and alienated by the end of it. The fact I never understood the cult following of Twin Peaks leads me to believe that me and Mr. Lynch just do not get on, but there we go.

 

List reminds me I re watched Lost in Translation recently, 8/9 years after hating it when I first saw it. Won't quite say it was a total 180 on it, but I appreciate it far more now in fairness, reasonably enjoyable 2nd time round.

[AVFCDAN]

2 hours ago, Designer1 said:

Both great, but DD is my second favourite movie of all time and really needs to be on the list. 

Somehow you have gone up in my estimations. It's on my top 10 list for the very same reasons you listed, such a unique film.

whats the first by the way?