Chindie Posted December 1, 2013 VT Supporter Share Posted December 1, 2013 Why would 2 "good" super heroes be "versus" each other . That would be like Jesus v Muhammad or McGrath v Shaw . Mental. Been done loads of times in the comics. The comic the film is inspired by sets it up by having Batman become an increasingly viscous righteous vigilante and Superman becoming a government agent/weapon. Eventually they come into conflict as Batman acts in the manner he feels is justified for the greater good while Superman acts 'for the man'who doesn't like what Batman is doing. IIRC they had one storyline where Batman gets turned on by the entire Justice League when they discover he'd plotted contingency plans to take out all of his allies should they go rogue, including Superman. In fairness all comic book team ups tend to have the heroes go toe to toe at some point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brumerican Posted December 1, 2013 Share Posted December 1, 2013 Why would 2 "good" super heroes be "versus" each other . That would be like Jesus v Muhammad or McGrath v Shaw . Mental. Been done loads of times in the comics. The comic the film is inspired by sets it up by having Batman become an increasingly viscous righteous vigilante and Superman becoming a government agent/weapon. Eventually they come into conflict as Batman acts in the manner he feels is justified for the greater good while Superman acts 'for the man'who doesn't like what Batman is doing. IIRC they had one storyline where Batman gets turned on by the entire Justice League when they discover he'd plotted contingency plans to take out all of his allies should they go rogue, including Superman. In fairness all comic book team ups tend to have the heroes go toe to toe at some point. Sounds like the true winner is going to be the viewer. # teamwonderwoman 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginko Posted December 1, 2013 Share Posted December 1, 2013 IIRC they had one storyline where Batman gets turned on by the entire Justice League... I can understand Wonder Woman, but Aquaman and Martian Manhunter do nothing for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOF Posted December 1, 2013 Moderator Share Posted December 1, 2013 Um, wouldn't Batman (basically a tricked out civilian) be annihilated in a matter of nanoseconds by Superman? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarewsEyebrowDesigner Posted December 1, 2013 Share Posted December 1, 2013 Yes. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chindie Posted December 1, 2013 VT Supporter Share Posted December 1, 2013 The Justice League is generally shite, basically. They'll try to do a movie if Batman v Superman thing works (it won't), but it's destined to be rubbish because the characters are crap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chindie Posted December 1, 2013 VT Supporter Share Posted December 1, 2013 (edited) Um, wouldn't Batman (basically a tricked out civilian) be annihilated in a matter of nanoseconds by Superman? Yes. To get round that comics were they do fight effectively play up Superman as thick, Batman levelling the field by being smarter (supposed to be The World's Greatest Detective after all). Batman has a Krpytonite ring for such occasions, which I think Superman gave him, just in case. Daft, I know. Edited December 1, 2013 by Chindie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brumerican Posted December 1, 2013 Share Posted December 1, 2013 Kryptonite condoms ... Now there's your movie . 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOF Posted December 1, 2013 Moderator Share Posted December 1, 2013 Um, wouldn't Batman (basically a tricked out civilian) be annihilated in a matter of nanoseconds by Superman?Yes. To get round that comics were they do fight effectively play up Superman as thick, Batman levelling the field by being smarter (supposed to be The World's Greatest Detective after all). Batman has a Krpytonite ring for such occasions, which I think Superman gave him, just in case. Daft, I know.Yeah I think I'll be giving that one a miss then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted December 2, 2013 VT Supporter Share Posted December 2, 2013 Usually I'd agree but Ben Affleck? People said similar things about Heath Ledger being the Joker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted December 2, 2013 VT Supporter Share Posted December 2, 2013 Um, wouldn't Batman (basically a tricked out civilian) be annihilated in a matter of nanoseconds by Superman? Yes. To get round that comics were they do fight effectively play up Superman as thick, Batman levelling the field by being smarter (supposed to be The World's Greatest Detective after all). Batman has a Krpytonite ring for such occasions, which I think Superman gave him, just in case. Daft, I know. Yeah I think I'll be giving that one a miss then. It's a comic book film, so there's a 90% chance it'll be shit anyway, silly plot or not. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hogso Posted December 2, 2013 Share Posted December 2, 2013 If ever I was to get on the pitch at VP, like at half time of a match or something (I was thinking about this when they did that kick the ball in to the circle and win a prize thing at the Sunderland match), I would definitely do a shout out to my VT bros. But I wouldn't just mention VillaTalk. Nor would I say 'Do her up the wrong un'. There wouldn't even be a reference to Thom Yorke. Oh no sir. I would instead say how rubbish comic book movies are. It's really becoming a staple of the VT diet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xela Posted December 2, 2013 Share Posted December 2, 2013 If ever I was to get on the pitch at VP, like at half time of a match or something (I was thinking about this when they did that kick the ball in to the circle and win a prize thing at the Sunderland match), I would definitely do a shout out to my VT bros. But I wouldn't just mention VillaTalk. Nor would I say 'Do her up the wrong un'. There wouldn't even be a reference to Thom Yorke. Oh no sir. I would instead say how rubbish comic book movies are. It's really becoming a staple of the VT diet. It's true though isn't it? *standard winky face thingy* I do like the Dark Knight movies but struggle to warm to anything else Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarewsEyebrowDesigner Posted December 2, 2013 Share Posted December 2, 2013 (edited) The majority of them are rubbish but you get the occasional 'comic book' film that tries to do something interesting. The Nolan Batman films (even if they are flawed) are still, and I dare say will remain, the high point of the genre. The closest would be The Avengers, which is good fun but it plays things pretty safe, and Sin City, which is a different beast altogether. I also have a soft spot for Watchmen even if it does have some outrageously silly scenes. All the Iron Man, Thor, Hulk, Captain America films, I've no interest in. Spiderman (Raimi) were decent but having re-watched them recently, they are a bit silly. No Superman film will really make me care about Superman, no matter how well made. Edited December 2, 2013 by CarewsEyebrowDesigner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hogso Posted December 2, 2013 Share Posted December 2, 2013 Who can tell me about Avengelyne? They're turning that comic in to a film, no idea what is really except a little look at wiki, but Gina Carrano is going to be the titular character. I wish she was still involved with MMA, especially as she'd get more exposure with the woman's divs now in UFC, but it seems she likes making movies better. Could be great! Like that sci fi film with Cung Le in it!... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted December 2, 2013 VT Supporter Share Posted December 2, 2013 The majority of them are rubbish but you get the occasional 'comic book' film that tries to do something interesting. The Nolan Batman films (even if they are flawed) are still, and I dare say will remain, the high point of the genre. The closest would be The Avengers, which is good fun but it plays things pretty safe, and Sin City, which is a different beast altogether. I also have a soft spot for Watchmen even if it does have some outrageously silly scenes. All the Iron Man, Thor, Hulk, Captain America films, I've no interest in. Spiderman (Raimi) were decent but having re-watched them recently, they are a bit silly. No Superman film will really make me care about Superman, no matter how well made. Yeah, basically this. Nolan Batman are comic book films done really right. Avengers is an example of the best possible film you could get done in the way comic book films are generally done. It's the best of it's genre, imo, but it's never going to be better than actual good films. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginko Posted December 3, 2013 Share Posted December 3, 2013 The reason the Nolan Batman trilogy appeals to most people is because they're set in the real world. There are no supernatural powers and the bad guys are more akin to terrorists then supervillains who want to take over the world. They're a lot more gritty and relatable. Then you have stuff like Marvel's recent movies which aren't so dark but more fantastical and require you to suspend your disbelief more. There's space in this world for both types of movies and I enjoy both in different ways. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GarethRDR Posted December 3, 2013 Share Posted December 3, 2013 Watched Nikita for the first time yesterday. Have been meaning to watch it for years, just never got round to it. Bloody fantastic. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coda Posted December 3, 2013 Share Posted December 3, 2013 Watched Source Code last night. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarewsEyebrowDesigner Posted December 3, 2013 Share Posted December 3, 2013 I quite liked Source Code. I had the ending sussed a while ago, damned if I can remember it now. Something to do with separate yet parallel universes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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