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[ED]

BTW I'm gonna get my Uber Necklace tonight.

WTFPWNZORZEPIXX!!!111ELEVEN

BRD anyone? I think its gonna be 11th time lucky for me. Steve?

[limpid]

Your boots dropped last night. I had (yet another) no cloth run. Gettting boring now. Can we try Bel'Gaer (or whatever he's called) the one through the hall full of dwarves? It'll have to be early for me though.

[ED]

Where's he then?

^^

[The_Rev]

Why dont we have a a crack at Scholomance, or even do the Baron Run.

1] Scholo should be worth £££ cos of all the quests in there.

2] Baron = cloth heaven. Well, shadow heaven.

[Juju]

Well, I've dinged 60 finally so might not be such a liability.

Unless I recall our 18 man guild rade into zul'gurub last night. I may still be..... I died 8 times in there before we called it a day.

[ED]

So Julian hits 60.......

About time! You bought the game in page 9!

[red5]

Why dont we have a a crack at Scholomance, or even do the Baron Run.

1] Scholo should be worth £££ cos of all the quests in there.

2] Baron = cloth heaven. Well, shadow heaven.

Yes.

Now.

Chop chop.

:-)

[Risso]

So Julian hits 60.......

About time! You bought the game in page 9!

Jesus, what's the opposite of power levelling?! Whatever it is, Juju's redefined it!

[red5]

So Julian hits 60.......

About time! You bought the game in page 9!

Jesus, what's the opposite of power levelling?! Whatever it is, Juju's redefined it!

Hehe.

Why aren't you online?

Keeping 'an eye on me' :-)

[Juju]

I didnt install it til page 23 though!

I just didnt really enjoy playing dungeon instances, with other people, and thats where the quick levelling happens. When I have played with you guys, Ive generally if rested got over 1/3 of a level each time.

Doing the odd quest, socialising, helping the family level and a spot of grinding from time to time mean my play style is just different, and slower than yours.

But I dont understand how or why Bicks and the others kicked the game into touch at l60. When you look at the quests, the different facitons and the work needed to get reputation, your really only just starting.

[The_Rev]

Slow Baron, sorry, Magistrate run, but not bad for a first attempt.

Sam seemed to do ok. Belt, Devout Sandles, Shard, but its a good place to farm. When you know whats what in there, its doable in one hour.

Anyway expantion video which seems to have been out for ages, yet ive managed to miss.

[ED]

Limpid in response to what you said in party about the nature resist gloves, before you logged, I doubt Nayson meant "no" you couldn't need, its a run between mates, I couldn't care what you roll on, as long as its not a rogue epic. Maybe Nayson meant "no" he wasn't needing?

You shouldn't even have to ask. Need if you need!

[ED]

Shaman Revamp, means nothing to me....Good or bad?

We've recently completed an extensive review of the Shaman class, plugging in many changes for the next major content patch.

One of the first thing we reviewed was the mana cost for each Shaman spell and ability. The following list of spells will see a reduction in mana cost upon the release of the next patch.

Searing Totem - Mana cost reduced.

Mana Spring Totem - Mana cost reduced.

Healing Stream Totem - Mana cost reduced.

Rockbiter, Frostbrand, Flametongue and Windfury Weapon - Mana costs reduced.

Lightning Bolt - Mana cost reduced.

Next we took a took a pass at the duration for each Shaman spell and ability. This next list outlines spells which will see an increase to spell duration for patch 1.11.

Disease Cleansing Totem - Duration increased.

Fire Resistance Totem - Duration increased.

Flametongue Totem - Duration increased.

Frost Resistance Totem - Duration increased.

Grace of Air Totem - Duration of ranks 1 and 2 increased.

Nature Resistance Totem - Duration increased.

Poison Cleansing Totem - Duration increased.

Stoneskin Totem - Duration increased.

Strength of Earth Totem - Duration of ranks 1 through 4 increased.

Tremor Totem - Duration increased.

Windfury Totem - Duration increased.

Windwall Totem - Duration increased.

Players should also be happy to know that skill levels gained with two weapons when specced with the "Two-Handed Axes/Maces Enhancement Talent" will now be retained should a player unspend this talent point and return to it later.

Since we're on the topic of talents, I thought I'd give you some insight to a number of upcoming changes specifically affecting talents for the next patch. A full preview will be available through the interactive talent calculator, which should go live sometime in the next couple of days. Please note when reviewing these changes that it isn't necessarily comprehensive of every change, and that all numbers provided are based upon maximum rank investment.

Elemental

Starting with the first tier, you'll immediately notice that Convection has replaced Improved Lightning Bolt. Only now the passive effect of Convection will reduce the mana cost of Shock, Lightning Bolt and Chain Lightning spells by 10%. Similarly, you'll notice that the Concussion will now improve damage done by Lightning Bolt and Chain Lightning by 5%, in addition to Shock spells.

Moving along to the second tier, you'll notice Earth's Grasp, a talent that increases the health of the Stoneclaw Totem by 50% and the radius of the Earthbind Totem by 20%, for a mere two points. This is a significant improvement over the current Improved Stoneclaw Totem talent.

Call of Flame will now increase damage done by Fire Totems by 15% for 3 points, rather than 10% for 5 points.

The final tier 2 talent available is completely new -- Elemental Warding. For three points this talent will reduce damage taken from Fire, Frost and Nature effects by 10%.

Outside of the fact that there is no longer a prerequisite for Reverberation there are no changes to the tier 3 Elemental talents.

The fourth tier now has a few more options available beyond just Improved Fire Nova Totem -- which is now named Improved Fire Totems, and now decreases the threat generated by the Magma Totem by 50%, in addition to the two second reduction to the delay before the Fire Nova Totem activates. Those new options are:

Eye of the Storm (3 points): Gives you a 100% chance to gain the Focused Casting effect that lasts for 6 sec after being the victim of a melee or ranged critical strike. The Focused Casting effect prevents you from losing casting time when taking damage.

Storm Reach (2 points): Increase the range of your Lightning Bolt and Chain Lightning Bolt spells by 6 yards.

Deeper into the tree, at tier 5 you'll notice another new talent -- Elemental Devastation. For three points, your offensive spell crits will increase your chance to get a critical strike with melee attacks by 9% for 10 seconds.

Competing with this talent is Elemental Fury, left unchanged.

The second to final talent in this tree is Lightning Mastery, while left unchanged now requires Call of Thunder.

Toping off this tree, the 31-point talent, Elemental Mastery will now reduce the mana cost of the next spell by 100%, in addition to giving your next Fire, Frost or Nature spell a 100% critical strike chance. Also, the cooldown has been reduced to 3 minutes, from 5.

Enhancement

The only change to the first tier of talent in this tree affects Shield Specialization, which now offers a 25% increase to the amount of damage blocked by shields, in addition to improving block chance by 5%.

Moving onto tier 2 talents, you'll also notice only a single change. Guardian Totems, which replaces the Improved Stoneskin Totem talent, reduces the cooldown of the Grounding Totem by 2 seconds and increases the effect of both the Stoneskin Totem and Windwall Totem by 20%.

Upon reaching tier 3, players will notice that the Improved Strength of Earth Totem talent has been replaced with Enhancing Totems which increases the effect of Earth and Grace of Air Totems by 15%.

Flurry and Toughness will now be the tier 4 options, both left unchanged.

Competing with Parry, at tier 5 will be two new talents:

Improved Weapon Totems (2 points): Increases the melee attack power bonus of your Windfury Totem by 30% and the damage of your Flametongue Totem by 12%.

Elemental Weapons (3 points): Increases attack power bonus of Rockbiter by 20%, Windfury by 40% and damage of Flametongue/Frostbrand by 15%.

Weapon Mastery, now the new 26 point talent increases the damage you deal with all weapons by 10%.

Lastly, Stormstrike, now the only 31-point talent option in this tree has had it's mana cost reduced and the cooldown shortened to 20 seconds.

Restoration

The first changes to this tree start at the 2nd tier. Improved Reincarnation will now resurrect the Shaman with 20% more health and mana, in addition to the 20 cooldown minute reduction. Ancestral Healing will provide the same benefit for only 3-points, and Totemic Focus will now reduce the mana cost of totems by 15% at max rank.

Four new talents are now available as tier 3 options.

Nature's Guidance (3 points): Increases chance to hit with melee and spells by 3%.

Healing Focus (5 points): Gives you a 70% chance to avoid interruption caused by damage while casting any healing spell.

Totemic Mastery (1 point): Increase radius of totems that affect friendly targets by 5 yards.

Healing Grace (3 points): Reduces threat caused by healing spells by 15%.

Combat Endurance, Eventide and Improved Lesser Healing Wave have been removed from the game completely, keeping Captain Placeholder company.

At tier 4, replacing the Improved Healing Stream Talent is Restorative Totems. A talent that increases the effect of the Mana Spring and Healing Stream Totems by 25%.

You'll notice two things at tier 5. Nature's Swiftness no longer has a prerequisite, and another brand new talent:

Healing Way (3 point): Healing Wave spells cast on the target cause an effect that increases the effectiveness of any Healing Wave spell cast on that target by 6% for 15 seconds. This effect will stack of to three times.

The last change to this tree affects the 31-point talent, Mana Tide Totem. Mana regen has been increased for all ranks.

Other notable changes, you should be aware of include:

Windfury Weapon - Attack power bonus reduced. (This spell's effectiveness will now be more in line with other weapon enchantments).

Flame Tongue Weapon - Damage increased.

Rockbiter Weapon - Attack Power increased slightly.

Flame Shock - Damage over time portion of all ranks slightly increased. Mana cost of ranks 3 through 5 decreased.

Flame Shock - A new rank is available (rank 6) from Upper Blackrock Spire.

Elemental Fury: Tooltip now indicates it increases the critical damage for Searing Totem, Magma Totem, and Fire Nova Totem.

Fire Nova Totem: This totem now receives increased damage from effects that increase the Shaman's spell damage.

Grounding Totem: This totem will no longer reflect the Mage talent Combustion back onto the Mage.

Healing Stream Totem: This totem now receives increased healing from effects that increase the Shaman's healing and spell damage.

Magma Totem: This totem now receives increased damage from effects that increase the Shaman's spell damage.

Searing Totem: This totem now receives increased damage from effects that increase the Shaman's spell damage.

Windwall Totem: Greatly improved damage reduced by this totem.

[The_Rev]

Limpid in response to what you said in party about the nature resist gloves, before you logged, I doubt Nayson meant "no" you couldn't need, its a run between mates, I couldn't care what you roll on, as long as its not a rogue epic. Maybe Nayson meant "no" he wasn't needing?

You shouldn't even have to ask. Need if you need!

I did mean "no, i dont need them myself"

If you need something in a run, roll need on it!

(and they were Shadow resist gloves, werent they?)

[Risso]

Wooo, nice one Dan!

I actually think that's a pretty decent review on the face of it, it certainly makes the resto tree a lot, lot better.

Healing Focus (5 points): Gives you a 70% chance to avoid interruption caused by damage while casting any healing spell.

Ace. Now instead of just spamming Improved Lesser Healing Wave, we can use the longer normal healing wave, and heal far more.

Nature's Guidance (3 points): Increases chance to hit with melee and spells by 3%.

Nice

Moving along to the second tier, you'll notice Earth's Grasp, a talent that increases the health of the Stoneclaw Totem by 50% and the radius of the Earthbind Totem by 20%, for a mere two points. This is a significant improvement over the current Improved Stoneclaw Totem talent.

The earthbind improvement is nice, I'll be able to piss allies off from further away in Gankistan! But FFS Improved Stoneclaw? Just get rid of the bloody thing!

Toping off this tree, the 31-point talent, Elemental Mastery will now reduce the mana cost of the next spell by 100%, in addition to giving your next Fire, Frost or Nature spell a 100% critical strike chance. Also, the cooldown has been reduced to 3 minutes, from 5.

They've buffed that massively! I had it once, and it's great, but the 5 min cool down meant that Nature's Swiftness was a much better bet. Now it's the same 3 min cooldown, and even better, mana free, loads more people will take it.

Insta crits in battle, and last ditch heals in raids.....really very nice indeed.

[limpid]

Limpid in response to what you said in party about the nature resist gloves, before you logged, I doubt Nayson meant "no" you couldn't need, its a run between mates, I couldn't care what you roll on, as long as its not a rogue epic. Maybe Nayson meant "no" he wasn't needing?

You shouldn't even have to ask. Need if you need!

I did mean "no, i dont need them myself"

If you need something in a run, roll need on it!

(and they were Shadow resist gloves, werent they?)

Okay, so as it was cloth and had a resist on which I don't have I can need? (Pretty sure it was nature, but it would apply to shadow too). None of us want to ninja anything by mistake and the "rules" about this are not clear.

and when I said "can I need?" and you said "no", you were replying to something else? I thought people usually said "nn" or similar. No wonder I get confused with this. I guess Sam should have needed too.

[Risso]

**** hell Limpid, just take anything you need! Especially if Tarj wants it as well, you get bonus points!

[limpid]

and mistakes will be forgiven amongst us lot I;m sure, but what about when we're playing in other groups?

So in the example above, did I need?

[limpid]

and mistakes will be forgiven amongst us lot I;m sure, but what about when we're playing in other groups?

So in the example above, did I need?

[Risso]

You should surely have sorted out need/greed dilemmas by now Limpid?!

If it's an improvement on what you have, or it has stats like FR or NR that are obviously designed for use in a particular raid like MC or AQ then need away. If you're going to use it basically, feel free to need. As far as I'm concerned, you can do what you like with clothie shit!

Just be grateful you're not a shammy, as we're not supposed to use caster items ahead of mages, priests or warlocks, or melee items ahead of warriors and rogues.