sne Posted October 3 Share Posted October 3 Just now, VillaChris said: Onana went off v Everton but was available a few days later. Pretty sure Bailey was subbed because he kept losing the ball every time he got it second half rather than any injury but could be wrong on that. I think they'll both be in the squad but that both are carrying knocks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andym Posted October 3 Share Posted October 3 Man U are poorly coached; they have zero structure and you can pick holes in their defence with ease. However, that lack of tactical setup does actually make them dangerous if you stoop to their level and allow the match to turn into a basketball game; they are unpredictable and have pace upfront that can catch you out. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
romavillan Posted October 3 VT Supporter Share Posted October 3 Beating Bayern and then these could quite possibly break my mind. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duke313 Posted October 3 Share Posted October 3 All i'm asking for Unai, is to beat these lot. United losing going into the International break would be glorious, a 2 week meltdown 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted October 3 Share Posted October 3 (edited) 44 minutes ago, andym said: Man U are poorly coached; they have zero structure and you can pick holes in their defence with ease. However, that lack of tactical setup does actually make them dangerous if you stoop to their level and allow the match to turn into a basketball game; they are unpredictable and have pace upfront that can catch you out. They completely did us second half at OT last season pinging the diagonal long balls out wide to Rashford and Garnarcho, we couldn't cope at all and bizarrely did little to counter it. However this season we seemed to have dropped our defence back a good five-ten yards, we certainly did v Arsenal. Last night Bayern were doing that type of pass and they got behind us on one occasion but luckily Gnarby couldn't quite get the ball under control and it rolled straight into Emi's hands so if we can handle their quality Man. United really should be more straightforward. The way to beat them is feed Rogers continually when we win the ball. Also looking forward to Maatsen starting this, they won't enjoy trying to mark the runs he makes infield. It's hard to see us not scoring 2 or 3 against them, I think we'll win similar to Unai's first match. Edited October 3 by VillaChris 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_AA_786 Posted October 3 Share Posted October 3 Whether they have Ratboy and Mainoo or not, we need to control the midfield and be alert to their countering so I'd go for the below; Emi Konsa Carlos Pau Digne Youri Onana Barkley Jaden Ollie Rogers Only if Onana isn't fit then I'd be tempted to put Maatsen on the left and move Rogers inside to get at them a bit more. Bailey looks like he's not ready to come back yet and no point throwing Cash straight in against Rashford or Garnacho Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa89 Posted October 3 Share Posted October 3 There will be some reaction by them after that mess against Ange Ball Mate last week. There will also be a some down for us after the highs of Bayern. 1-1. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
troon_villan Posted October 3 Share Posted October 3 2 hours ago, romavillan said: Beating Bayern and then these could quite possibly break my mind. If it happens I will break my wind. Multiple times. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rubberman Posted October 3 Share Posted October 3 All the teams above us have pretty easy fixtures (though hopefully someone will slip up). Really could do with winning this. Garnacho is the main worry for me, but hopefully they'll play Casemiro who's a passenger these days. Would also like us to take a few more shots - their Onana is not that great. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pongo Waring Posted October 3 Share Posted October 3 (edited) Beating Bayern and Man United in space of a a few days/a week will easily surpass beating Man City and Arsenal in space of a a few days/a week Edited October 3 by Pongo Waring 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrootVilla Posted October 3 Share Posted October 3 They always raise their game against us so I'm expecting the same. I just hope the Bayern game gives us a lot of belief and we beat this lot 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OutByEaster? Posted October 3 Moderator Share Posted October 3 Worst case: -----------------------------Martinez--------------------------- Konsa---------Carlos-----------Torres-----------Digne ------------------Barkley-------Tielemans----------------- Philogene--------------Buendia----------------Rogers ------------------------------Watkins--------------------------- Which still isn't bad and I've discounted Cash, Mings, McGinn, Onana, Bailey, Ramsey and Kamara. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OutByEaster? Posted October 3 Moderator Share Posted October 3 Let's hope tonight ends up being a tough night for them. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Razor Posted October 3 Share Posted October 3 Surely it's about time we had a comfortable victory over them, we've shown we're capable of it but we always seem to let it slip after going ahead. 2-0 i reckon, either that or we go 2-0 up and lose 2-3. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaTO Posted October 3 Share Posted October 3 03/12/23 Bournemouth 2 - 2 Villa 06/12/23 Villa 1 - 0 Man. City 09/12/23 Villa 1 - 0 Arsenal 29/09/24 Ipswich 2 - 2 Villa 02/10/24 Villa 1 - 0 Bayern 06/10/24 Villa ? - ? Man. Utd. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nepal_villan Posted October 3 Share Posted October 3 28 minutes ago, OutByEaster? said: Worst case: -----------------------------Martinez--------------------------- Konsa---------Carlos-----------Torres-----------Digne ------------------Barkley-------Tielemans----------------- Philogene--------------Buendia----------------Rogers ------------------------------Watkins--------------------------- Which still isn't bad and I've discounted Cash, Mings, McGinn, Onana, Bailey, Ramsey and Kamara. And Maatsen, Duran and Kosta still options on the bench. Not bad! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreveryoung Posted October 3 Share Posted October 3 Tonight will speak volumes. If they win, they are still playing for Ten haag. If they lose, they might know another loss and he's gone, an want it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ender4 Posted October 3 Share Posted October 3 1 hour ago, VillaTO said: 03/12/23 Bournemouth 2 - 2 Villa 06/12/23 Villa 1 - 0 Man. City 09/12/23 Villa 1 - 0 Arsenal 29/09/24 Ipswich 2 - 2 Villa 02/10/24 Villa 1 - 0 Bayern 06/10/24 Villa ? - ? Man. Utd. Yes please! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaTO Posted October 3 Share Posted October 3 Hoping that united stuff Porto tonight, and that will be the 'reaction' to the Spurs disaster. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted October 3 Share Posted October 3 2 hours ago, Razor said: Surely it's about time we had a comfortable victory over them, we've shown we're capable of it but we always seem to let it slip after going ahead. 2-0 i reckon, either that or we go 2-0 up and lose 2-3. Unai's first game was the comfortable victory over them. Went 2-0 very early, they fluked a heavily deflected goal right on half time but then we scored early in second and they never looked like getting back into the game. Hopefully we don't wait another 27 years for a VP win! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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