foreveryoung Posted 14 hours ago Share Posted 14 hours ago 9 hours ago, duke313 said: We play them last at the end of January, we’ll already have qualified by then. That's confident. I don't want to cover over the win at Young boys. But they are bottom of a European farmers league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulC Posted 13 hours ago Share Posted 13 hours ago 1 hour ago, foreveryoung said: That's confident. I don't want to cover over the win at Young boys. But they are bottom of a European farmers league. But they won it last year so no doubt they are in a very false position. Massive step up in class next game though. Wouid be delighted with a point against Bayern. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted 12 hours ago Share Posted 12 hours ago 12 hours ago, Davkaus said: Who the **** are Slovan and what are they doing in Europe's premier football competition Champions of Slovakia and beat 3 other actual league champions to qualify for the Champions League 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted 12 hours ago Share Posted 12 hours ago 2 hours ago, foreveryoung said: That's confident. I don't want to cover over the win at Young boys. But they are bottom of a European farmers league. They won a league that is rated higher than the Scottish league by UEFA rankings the league is also higher than the Polish league which had a team that beat us once and caused us problems in second game last season 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted 12 hours ago Share Posted 12 hours ago 12 hours ago, Marka Ragnos said: I don’t know enough about football to know how inter Milan are playing such an incredible defensive game, but it’s so different from what you see teams do against Manchester city in the premier league. It’s pretty amazing. The players seem to resist committing to tackles, first of all. They just keep covering in a kind of flexible zonal play — they’ve got to be wearing City out. Inter is one of the best coached teams in Europe since Inzaghi took over and should have really won the final in 2023 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrBlack Posted 12 hours ago Share Posted 12 hours ago 13 hours ago, The_Rev said: Yes, but only if Aston Villa can directly benefit from it. The way it works (single season, total score divided by number of clubs) favours the Premier League a bit more this year as the extra club Italy and Germany have will almost certainly bring their average down It's actually a really good system, as its likely that will hold true every year. The extra club that gets in will inherently be weaker than the usual clubs. Occasionally you'll get freak years where there are just that many good teams in a league, but usually I think you'll see a different league getting at least one and probably both spots. It's very unlike football powers that to be to introduce something that works. Obviously the problem they've got is there are way too many teams in the Champions League now and the levels of ability are so wide apart. You shouldn't be getting scores like 9-2 in the top tier of football. Celtic beating anyone 5-1 shows the level of some of the club's that got in. Makes it all a bit of a farce given the way the draw for the league stage works. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrBlack Posted 12 hours ago Share Posted 12 hours ago 10 hours ago, Ceemo said: Just to mention what the prize money is for the champions league this season: Starting Fee (equal share to all 36 clubs) (€670 million split between 36 teams) All clubs that enter the League Phase earn €18.62 million (£15.67 million) each as a base fee. Champions League: Performance-based prize money (€914 million total) Winner: €25m (£21.07m) Runner-up: €18.5m (£15.59m) Semi-finalists: €15m (£12.64m) Quarter-finalists: €12.5m (£10.53m) Round of 16: €11m (£9.27m) Reaching knockout round play-off: €1m (£842,669) League-phase wins: €2.1m (£1.77m) League-phase draws: €700,000 (£589,868) Villa have already earned £1.77m for the win on Tuesday. Also according to UEFA: 'Additionally, teams will be paid a new league ranking bonus based on their final ranking in the league phase. The league ranking bonus is divided into 666 equal shares of initially valued at €275,000, with the team finishing 36th taking home that solitary share. The 35th team will take two shares and so on until the team finishing top is awarded 36 shares. The undistributed €700,000 from each drawn game will proportionately increase the value of the shares given to each position' Value Pillar (€853 million) Very complicated, but basically suits the bigger clubs from the bigger leagues. Each club will get a share of the €853 million based on the media income that UEFA has got from broadcasters to show the competitions, regardless of performance and is split between incomes earned from European markets (European part) and the rest of the world (non European part). Lets say the European part is 75% of the €853 million and the non-European part is 25% of the €853 million. For the European part, the 36 clubs are ranked based on an average of their 5-year coefficients AND their media ranking. Villa will be low in the coefficient table, but very high in the media table, so for the average will be probably be 18th out of the 36 teams. Man City for example could earn €35 million here, while Villa could earn €20 million regardless of performance, although exact figures are impossible to know. For the non European part, it would be the clubs ranked by their last 10-years coefficient, so Villa would obviously be very low on this table (31st out of the 36), so Man City could earn another €10 million using the percentages above whilst Villa would earn a little over a million. Again exact figures are pure guess work, but the bigger clubs in Europe will earn more because of their historical success. There was a table posted before in one of the threads suggesting we get roughly €40m without even kicking a ball. Every match we win or draw, and every place we gain in the table increases that figure. We've already increased it by €2.1m. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AvonVillain Posted 11 hours ago Share Posted 11 hours ago (edited) Don't understand the logic of this thread being in Other Football when Villa are in the competition? It's clearly Villa Talk until we're out. Underwhelming pundits and hosts on BBC Champions League coverage have to say. Please no to Jason Mohammed and the likes of Theo Walcott! Surely we can do better. Edited 11 hours ago by AvonVillain 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted 11 hours ago Share Posted 11 hours ago 18 minutes ago, AvonVillain said: Don't understand the logic of this thread being in Other Football when Villa are in the competition? It's clearly Villa Talk until we're out. Underwhelming pundits and hosts on BBC Champions League coverage have to say. Please no to Jason Mohammed and the likes of Theo Walcott! Surely we can do better. Was a thread but was mainly just abour ticket complaints so was closed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AvonVillain Posted 11 hours ago Share Posted 11 hours ago 2 minutes ago, Zatman said: Was a thread but was mainly just abour ticket complaints so was closed Hmmm; by that logic Villa Talk itself should be closed down! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ceemo Posted 10 hours ago Share Posted 10 hours ago 1 hour ago, MrBlack said: There was a table posted before in one of the threads suggesting we get roughly €40m without even kicking a ball. Every match we win or draw, and every place we gain in the table increases that figure. We've already increased it by €2.1m. Yeah somewhere around that €40m-€45m depending on the value pillar aspect is the base figure. Added to getting results, progressing to the Round of 16 would be the real money maker. Considering that the club made overall just over €10m from the Conference League exploits last season, it's quite the change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marka Ragnos Posted 4 hours ago VT Supporter Share Posted 4 hours ago (edited) So ... Club Brugge -- scoreline flattered Dortmund yesterday, totally. I think they'll be one of the trickiest opponents. I know a mistake I made in thinking about them is thinking that if you're a club from Belgium, you're not going to be all that ambitious, you're just going to be pleased to be at the CL party, esp. since you're just a little tourist spot and have a pretty little town square and tasty frites with mayonnaise. What a fool I am. Edited 4 hours ago by Marka Ragnos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BleedClaretAndBlue Posted 4 hours ago Share Posted 4 hours ago Alonso’s side are a good watch 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa89 Posted 3 hours ago Share Posted 3 hours ago There's a lot of poor teams in this CL. We should be cert's to get out of this group phase. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nepal_villan Posted 2 hours ago Share Posted 2 hours ago Think this format will expose how weak some of these clubs are and may require UEFA to revisit the qualifying structure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa89 Posted 2 hours ago Share Posted 2 hours ago 2 minutes ago, nepal_villan said: Think this format will expose how weak some of these clubs are and may require UEFA to revisit the qualifying structure. What would that do? This phase is designed to give a lot of clubs from a lot of countries money. The big teams can't get knocked out and the smaller team make huge profits. It's win win. This competition isn't about sporting integrity, it's about getting votes and getting money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr_Dogg Posted 2 hours ago Share Posted 2 hours ago 1 hour ago, villa89 said: There's a lot of poor teams in this CL. We should be cert's to get out of this group phase. League phase. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreveryoung Posted 1 hour ago Share Posted 1 hour ago How lucky are Arsenal. Atlanta get a penalty, double saved by Raya. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Django_Zooms Posted 1 hour ago Share Posted 1 hour ago (edited) Zaniolo coming on as a sub for Atalanta. Emotional? Edited 1 hour ago by Django_Zooms Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonLax Posted 1 hour ago Share Posted 1 hour ago 17 minutes ago, foreveryoung said: How lucky are Arsenal. Atlanta get a penalty, double saved by Raya. He’s a pretty good keeper. That was a very soft penalty decision though so probably justice was done. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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