AndyClarke Posted August 15 Share Posted August 15 He's not signing to play in our u21s for any length of time. First team squad. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allani Posted August 15 Share Posted August 15 (edited) 57 minutes ago, PaulMcGrath_5 said: Listen to the commentary again but with an Alan Partridge voice saying the words.... I think it is "joyous on the eye" that does it. Edited August 15 by allani 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyClarke Posted August 15 Share Posted August 15 (edited) 45 minutes ago, Don_Simon said: Tell us more! (Please). Left when was 14, we got peanuts for him, the club were very disappointed. He's gone on to play regularly in Man City's u21s and for England age groups. It will be interesting to see what the fee looks like but he'll be around the first team squad I would imagine. He'll definitely get minutes this season. Edited August 15 by AndyClarke 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villan-scott Posted August 15 VT Supporter Share Posted August 15 (edited) Edit NVM Should be a good addition to the squad. Edited August 15 by villan-scott Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david-avfc Posted August 15 Share Posted August 15 24 minutes ago, MaVilla said: he would count as A List association trained but that irrelevant to us as we have loads of them. He wont count as A List club trained, which is where we are actually short (over 21 and trained by the club for 3 years). The assessment period for club trained players is trained for 3 years between ages of 15-21 so if we sold him aged 14 then he accumulated nothing towards being a club trained player at villa previously, and now he's too old to ever to accumulate the 3 years in the future 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeyp102 Posted August 15 Share Posted August 15 13 minutes ago, AndyClarke said: Left when was 14, we got peanuts for him, the club were very disappointed. He's gone on to play regularly in Man City's u21s and for England age groups. It will be interesting to see what the fee looks like but he'll be around the first ream squad I would imagine. He'll definitely get minutes this season. Really surprised you say that. Have you seen him much at City? Where do you think he development wise compared to some at the club already K Young for example Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaVilla Posted August 15 Share Posted August 15 9 minutes ago, david-avfc said: The assessment period for club trained players is trained for 3 years between ages of 15-21 so if we sold him aged 14 then he accumulated nothing towards being a club trained player at villa previously, and now he's too old to ever to accumulate the 3 years in the future yeah, so doesnt and wont meet the A List club trained criteria. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CVByrne Posted August 15 Share Posted August 15 18 minutes ago, AndyClarke said: He's not signing to play in our u21s for any length of time. First team squad. First team squad of a team in the EFL yes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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useless Posted August 15 Share Posted August 15 Signing if it happens feels like it has a number of similarities to the Sousa signing, that one felt like it could happen because we had tried to sign him previously, and obviously the WBA connection, and this one with his previous connection to us, always seemed like it could potentially happen, and I wouldn't be surprised if we've tried to bring him back before now as well, also both have a similar profile, similar age, both at big clubs, doing well, neither had had a loan yet, we sent Sousa straight out on loan, and I think we could possibly do the same with Taylor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyClarke Posted August 15 Share Posted August 15 (edited) 6 minutes ago, mikeyp102 said: Really surprised you say that. Have you seen him much at City? Where do you think he development wise compared to some at the club already K Young for example He's getting on for 20, it makes no sense for either party to come here to play more u21 football. I've seen bits and bobs (not pretending to be a Kane Taylor expert here) but he has got a lot to his game and a poise about him. Might go straight off to one of our favoured loan clubs, who knows. Kadan Young is naive and raw different positions really, so hard to make a comparison. Edited August 15 by AndyClarke 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarryOnVilla Posted August 15 Share Posted August 15 2 minutes ago, Rich192 said: Oooooofff that 25% sell on clause is pretty steep. This is how Man City game the system. They get so much passive income from all these sell on clauses 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allani Posted August 15 Share Posted August 15 19 minutes ago, AndyClarke said: Left when was 14, we got peanuts for him, the club were very disappointed. He's gone on to play regularly in Man City's u21s and for England age groups. It will be interesting to see what the fee looks like but he'll be around the first ream squad I would imagine. He'll definitely get minutes this season. Interesting following on from Damien's comments yesterday about selling Academy players destroying part of the spirit of football and risking losing the "he's one of our own" chant from the terraces. Looks like we've got one back into the fold. Interesting to see whether he goes out on loan or we keep him around the main squad for a few months to get a proper look at him in training and decide the best pathway for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
East London Villa Posted August 15 Share Posted August 15 Purely looking at our first team squad, I find it hard to see where he would get minutes unless it's in a Fin Munroe end of season situation. Onana Tielemans McGinn Barkley Barrenechea for now, Kamara back later this year, Bogarde still here as it stands as direct competition. I think he'll go on loan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ferguson1 Posted August 15 Share Posted August 15 2 minutes ago, allani said: Interesting following on from Damien's comments yesterday about selling Academy players destroying part of the spirit of football and risking losing the "he's one of our own" chant from the terraces. Looks like we've got one back into the fold. Interesting to see whether he goes out on loan or we keep him around the main squad for a few months to get a proper look at him in training and decide the best pathway for him. We’ve been hoovering up and investing in young talent for a while and from the comments yesterday, we’ll continue to do this. Pay 500k, 750k or even 1M now for young players but hopefully sell on for 10m, 15m plus etc. It’s all a PSR game but at least we’re wise to it. I don’t necessarily like it this way but needs must unless the rules change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrBlack Posted August 15 Share Posted August 15 26 minutes ago, david-avfc said: The assessment period for club trained players is trained for 3 years between ages of 15-21 so if we sold him aged 14 then he accumulated nothing towards being a club trained player at villa previously, and now he's too old to ever to accumulate the 3 years in the future Frustrating! We're signing a lot of 19 yr olds at the moment. I guess we've got quite a haul of players with potential already that will have been with us 3 years when they're 21 and it's a balancing act of waiting for them to develop or gambling at a younger age Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAMAICAN-VILLAN Posted August 15 Share Posted August 15 1 hour ago, OutByEaster? said: Seems a good young prospect, local lad - I wonder what the money on this one will be like. Next years Ramsey replacement? Barkley/McGinn successor could be another way to look at it. Wasn't Rogers meant to be Ramseys replacement? lol Basically, i'm tired of you lot selling JJ 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAMAICAN-VILLAN Posted August 15 Share Posted August 15 31 minutes ago, CarryOnVilla said: Oooooofff that 25% sell on clause is pretty steep. This is how Man City game the system. They get so much passive income from all these sell on clauses Chelsea model as well. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thabucks Posted August 15 Share Posted August 15 Just now, JAMAICAN-VILLAN said: Barkley/McGinn successor could be another way to look at it. Wasn't Rogers meant to be Ramseys replacement? lol Basically, i'm tired of you lot selling JJ Yeah JJ will be Rogers replacement next summer 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imavillan Posted August 15 Share Posted August 15 39 minutes ago, Rich192 said: Birmingham lad. Is he one of our own? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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