mjmooney Posted September 6 VT Supporter Share Posted September 6 It must all be very confusing for the poor lambs. They don't like Jews, but then again, Jews don't like Muslims. They don't like Muslims, but then again, Muslims don't like gays. And so on. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJG23 Posted September 6 Share Posted September 6 (edited) 16 hours ago, Kuwabatake Sanjuro said: Yeah the fascists are one and the same now, proudly matched alongside the members of the loyalist death squad that indiscriminately murdered innocent Catholics in the Sean Graham bookmakers massacre of 1992. Also they love the likes of Tommy Robinson who proudly supports the Parachute regiment responsible for Bloody Sunday. Worth mentioning they get funding from the Tates in Romania too. A big change in the country from 8 years ago when the fascists were ran off the streets when Pegida tried to launch here. During COVID the far right mobilised and grew and now with the networks of propaganda and disinformation fully operational there are a lot of people gone down rabbit holes and won't be saved. It's a bleak future. I think it all falls under the heading of “White Christian Conservatives” banding together. Whether it actually transcends the religious divide in Ireland north and south of the border remains to be seen. Saw a video recently of Tommy Robinson refuting claims he is anti Irish by pointing out his heritage and claiming he has loads of Irish friends he goes to the pub with on St Patrick’s Day. There was also a documentary recently where some journalists filmed undercover and tried to “infiltrate “ the EDL. There was a woman who was Irish born and bred from Dublin who got totally bladdered at a meeting in a pub and kept singing how proud she was to be British and was none too complimentary about “immigrants”. Edited September 7 by AJG23 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjmooney Posted September 6 VT Supporter Share Posted September 6 Thickos gonna thicko. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted September 11 Share Posted September 11 Mum of they year finally back from her holiday to face the music link Quote A mum who went on holiday to Ibiza rather than attending her son's sentencing hearing for his role in riots has been ordered to pay compensation. Her 12-year-old boy was said to have shown the "worst kind of feral behaviour" during two separate episodes of disorder in Manchester on 31 July and 3 August. The mother was ordered to pay £1,200 compensation - approximately the same price as her holiday - and given a parental order. The boy, who cannot be named because of his age, was handed a 12-month referral order and told had he been an adult he could have been sent to prison for between four and five years. The boy admitted two separate episodes of disorder, the first when he was part of a mob that attacked a bus outside a hotel housing asylum seekers in Manchester on 31 July. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davkaus Posted September 11 Share Posted September 11 Absolutely no chance of that kid turning out as anything but a stain on society is there. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted September 11 Share Posted September 11 Just now, Davkaus said: Absolutely no chance of that kid turning out as anything but a stain on society is there. I’m intrigued by what he did specifically. I think the judge previously said what he did was worse than any of the others which had been through the courts and today said he’d have got 4-5 years if tried as an adult. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davkaus Posted September 11 Share Posted September 11 I was curious about these parental orders Quote When a Parenting Order is in place, it means parents and carers must attend either a parenting skills programme or weekly counselling or guidance sessions for up to three months. The court can also add conditions lasting for up to 12 months, for example, ensuring that their child attends school or is at home during specified hours. https://www.derby.gov.uk/community-and-living/youth-offending/parenting-orders/ That ought to do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreveryoung Posted September 11 Share Posted September 11 I always thpught the parents should be held accountable with some kind of order, or even criminal charges with serious crime there kids commit. Always think of the bulgers. Parents got rehoused and looked after for years, when for me, they should have faced some criminal charges fat least or neglect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seat68 Posted September 11 Share Posted September 11 1 hour ago, foreveryoung said: I always thpught the parents should be held accountable with some kind of order, or even criminal charges with serious crime there kids commit. Always think of the bulgers. Parents got rehoused and looked after for years, when for me, they should have faced some criminal charges fat least or neglect. Well I think the punishment of the brutal murder of their child is enough. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreveryoung Posted September 11 Share Posted September 11 2 minutes ago, Seat68 said: Well I think the punishment of the brutal murder of their child is enough. I was talking about the child killers parents. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
limpid Posted September 11 Administrator Share Posted September 11 4 minutes ago, foreveryoung said: I was talking about the child killers parents. But using the right words isn't important. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulC Posted September 11 Share Posted September 11 7 hours ago, Genie said: I’m intrigued by what he did specifically. I think the judge previously said what he did was worse than any of the others which had been through the courts and today said he’d have got 4-5 years if tried as an adult. It was multiple offenses at separate marches, involving smashing shop windows and looting. Sounds like he's got off pretty lightly as a child. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidcow Posted September 11 VT Supporter Share Posted September 11 2 minutes ago, PaulC said: It was multiple offenses at separate marches, involving smashing shop windows and looting. Sounds like he's got off pretty lightly as a child. And attacking a bus. Quite the busy day,bet he went to bed early absolutely shattered. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulC Posted September 11 Share Posted September 11 6 hours ago, foreveryoung said: I always thpught the parents should be held accountable with some kind of order, or even criminal charges with serious crime there kids commit. Always think of the bulgers. Parents got rehoused and looked after for years, when for me, they should have faced some criminal charges fat least or neglect. Yes different times. It does seem to me that people are less shocked by heinous crimes that happen these days than ther were then. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted September 11 Share Posted September 11 Maybe a change in the law which makes parents more culpable for the crimes of their kids is needed. They might take a bit more of an interest in what their children are doing if they suspect they are up to no good. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post PaulC Posted September 11 Popular Post Share Posted September 11 2 minutes ago, Genie said: Maybe a change in the law which makes parents more culpable for the crimes of their kids is needed. They might take a bit more of an interest in what their children are doing if they suspect they are up to no good. I don't really like that type of law. Some teenagers are really difficult to manage and it's not always the parents fault they turn out like that. Some parents are at there wits end knowing what to do. Especially if you are a single parent 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post bickster Posted September 11 Moderator Popular Post Share Posted September 11 28 minutes ago, Genie said: Maybe a change in the law which makes parents more culpable for the crimes of their kids is needed. They might take a bit more of an interest in what their children are doing if they suspect they are up to no good. Sounds like another law which would be used way beyond the scope of its original intention very quickly 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted September 11 Share Posted September 11 Just now, bickster said: Sounds like another law which would be used way beyond the scope of its original intention very quickly How so? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted September 11 Moderator Share Posted September 11 Just now, Genie said: How so? Because laws like that always are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonLax Posted September 11 Share Posted September 11 The US has laws like that. The parents of the kid who committed the recent high profile school shooting have been convicted of multiple counts of murder and received 15 years in prison, due to their negligence in their responsibilities for their child leading up to the incident. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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