sheepyvillian Posted August 25 Share Posted August 25 Just now, Rolta said: Well it was all racism fuelled by bullshit so it's not that ridiculous. You think it's just there in the minds of idiotic thugs. What about structural racism? It's pretty naive to think racism is just "Fuelled by Bullshit". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheepyvillian Posted August 25 Share Posted August 25 I strongly recommend The Colour of Fear by Lee Mun Wah. A startling documentary on racism. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marka Ragnos Posted August 26 Author VT Supporter Share Posted August 26 5 hours ago, mjmooney said: Quite right. But there are, without a doubt, those who would relish doing that very thing if they thought they could get away with it. And with some people, just add alcohol or drugs, and they'll go right ahead and try. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rolta Posted August 26 Share Posted August 26 7 hours ago, sheepyvillian said: You think it's just there in the minds of idiotic thugs. What about structural racism? It's pretty naive to think racism is just "Fuelled by Bullshit". Yeah I mean sure it could be unpacked more, but that'll go for both sides of the comparison too. I wonder if there'll be even more similarities if we did so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mozzavfc Posted August 26 Share Posted August 26 9 hours ago, sidcow said: And who the **** is Leo X? He was the pope 1517-1521 https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pope_Leo_X Quote Pope Leo X (Italian: Leone X; born Giovanni di Lorenzo de' Medici, 11 December 1475 – 1 December 1521) was head of the Catholic Church and ruler of the Papal States from 9 March 1513 to his death, in December 1521.[2] 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidcow Posted August 26 VT Supporter Share Posted August 26 1 hour ago, Mozzavfc said: He was the pope 1517-1521 https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pope_Leo_X Thanks. I didn't get the relevance of it but now it makes perfect sense. I'd assumed he was some right wing nutjob poster on Twitter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidcow Posted August 26 VT Supporter Share Posted August 26 Hmm. So it's the morning after and a time for reflection on a bizarre outburst. Would I be right in thinking (because I only post on here) that there is a lot of revisionism going on online with people trying to downplay the riots and make them seem less than they were? Mere high jinks from a bunch of idiots? 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post chrisp65 Posted August 26 Popular Post Share Posted August 26 10 hours ago, sheepyvillian said: Nothing at all like "1920s deep South America". I don't see any black people hanging from magnolia trees for allegedly raping white women. They were potentially burned in their bedrooms for allegedly stabbing white girls. There were crowds in multiple towns that could have killed someone, there were crowds that could have stood and cheered as a hotel full of families burned. I don’t think it’s semantics to suggest it was about as bad as it gets. It doesn’t need ranking on some league table, it doesn’t need historical or political perspective. We were ‘luck’ away from a racist mass murder. Someone setting up road blocks to check the skin of drivers, or looting shops, or attempting to burn an occupied building is not simply an idiot. That let’s them off facing what they are. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheepyvillian Posted August 26 Share Posted August 26 2 hours ago, Mozzavfc said: He was the pope 1517-1521 https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pope_Leo_X That ignorance beggars belief. It really does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ml1dch Posted August 26 Popular Post Share Posted August 26 12 minutes ago, sheepyvillian said: That ignorance beggars belief. It really does. Ignorance is the right word for it. Have these people not seen the Adolfo Celi portrayal of him in The Agony and the Ecstasy? It's a cultural wasteland on here sometimes. 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon Posted August 26 Share Posted August 26 10 hours ago, sidcow said: And who the **** is Leo X? Apparently not just 1 pope. He was many popes, but with different numbers after his name. But they're all dead. So I'm not sure how he's still commenting on stuff, unless it's from the afterlife 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidcow Posted August 26 VT Supporter Share Posted August 26 I really must brush up on my 16th Century Popes and their influence on racially aggravated violence. I feel quite shamed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rugeley Villa Posted August 26 Share Posted August 26 Leo was a fine man . Good breeding and a fine example of faith. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheepyvillian Posted August 26 Share Posted August 26 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Rugeley Villa said: Leo was a fine man . Good breeding and a fine example of faith. It's not even who I was referring to. You have to laugh at the ignorance of some on here. Just the context alone should be sufficient enough. Hence, my "Drop me out" comment. Edited August 26 by sheepyvillian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rolta Posted August 26 Share Posted August 26 1 hour ago, sheepyvillian said: That ignorance beggars belief. It really does. Why does everyone not know everything about my very specific set of religious interests? The world is going to pot! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xela Posted August 26 Share Posted August 26 46 minutes ago, sidcow said: I really must brush up on my 16th Century Popes and their influence on racially aggravated violence. I feel quite shamed. You're a white man, you are just an overgrown child, according to Leo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seat68 Posted August 26 Share Posted August 26 There only appears to be 2 Leo X’s of any note, one is a pope and the other is a dance music producer. I feel Sheepy has either messed up his quote or trying to appeal to the catholic members of the forum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ml1dch Posted August 26 Share Posted August 26 5 minutes ago, Seat68 said: There only appears to be 2 Leo X’s of any note, one is a pope and the other is a dance music producer. I feel Sheepy has either messed up his quote or trying to appeal to the catholic members of the forum. Yeah, I've searched Twitter and Google (and even for the quote) and I genuinely can't work out who this celebrated thinker is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rugeley Villa Posted August 26 Share Posted August 26 Maybe Leo X is connected to Malcolm X ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjmooney Posted August 26 VT Supporter Share Posted August 26 3 minutes ago, ml1dch said: Yeah, I've searched Twitter and Google (and even for the quote) and I genuinely can't work out who this celebrated thinker is. A Google search for 'Leo X' threw up almost exclusively references to the Pope. Somewhere buried deep in the results was a clip of some DJ. Back to 'what is famous?' yet again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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