Popular Post StefanAVFC Posted August 9 VT Supporter Popular Post Share Posted August 9 2 minutes ago, foreveryoung said: I'm not even bothering reading that. Sums up everyone's entire issue with your posting style in 6 words. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted August 9 VT Supporter Share Posted August 9 (edited) 5 minutes ago, foreveryoung said: I'm not even bothering reading that. You'll never be proved wrong on anything, theres a old chap down my local the same, he's a nightmare. Let's just get back in topic. What I will say is telling me to "run to my mommy", is not really sensible debate, however much you disagree with me. But I guess it's okay to say that too Haha no no, don't run away now that you know you're wrong. Sorry my post was a bit long. I'll summarise the bit I'm really interested in: 11 minutes ago, Stevo985 said: 14 minutes ago, foreveryoung said: You yourself were calling them 'all' out until you found out the whole story at the airport. Also this is false. I'd be very interested if you could find any posts from me that even remotely reflect this. There you go. Two sentences. I'll wait. Or have you completely made something up and moaned about it? Again Edited August 9 by Stevo985 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted August 9 VT Supporter Share Posted August 9 3 minutes ago, bobzy said: So he's asked you for an example to back up what you're saying... and your response is "I'm not even bothering reading that" 2 minutes ago, StefanAVFC said: Sums up everyone's entire issue with your posting style in 6 words. Gets accused of posting complete bollocks and running away crying when he's asked to back it up Proceeds to post complete bollocks and run away crying when he's asked to back it up. Clockwork 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted August 9 Share Posted August 9 30 minutes ago, Rugeley Villa said: Heat of the moment doesn’t cut it imo . Someone in his position should keep himself from getting too excited. For sure a punishment is needed, but in my opinion not worthy of a jail term. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreveryoung Posted August 9 Share Posted August 9 1 minute ago, Stevo985 said: Gets accused of posting complete bollocks and running away crying when he's asked to back it up Proceeds to post complete bollocks and run away crying when he's asked to back it up. Clockwork I'm not running away crying, just can't be arsed with a few randoms on a football forum. I'll play the better man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
desensitized43 Posted August 9 Share Posted August 9 31 minutes ago, MCU said: I absolutley agree. But why hasn't it happened already? ASk the Tories. They're the ones who were in power for 13 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidcow Posted August 9 VT Supporter Share Posted August 9 Speaking of Farage, and Boris, and Braverman and Yaxley and Fox and Putin and Galloway and any other number of absolute evil words removed. Just look at the division being shown on this thread. Job done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MCU Posted August 9 Share Posted August 9 5 minutes ago, sidcow said: Speaking of Farage, and Boris, and Braverman and Yaxley and Fox and Putin and Galloway and any other number of absolute evil words removed. Just look at the division being shown on this thread. Job done. Can me and you ever be civil ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted August 9 VT Supporter Share Posted August 9 8 minutes ago, foreveryoung said: Why do I need to give you evidence, it's not a fricking court of law You completely made something up. Literally invented it out of nothing. All I was asking was anything to back that up. You can't provide it because as usual it was a lie. This is why people don't like your posting style. You make stupid posts that are usually bollocks and when anyone dares asks you to back it up with any substance whatsoever, you run away You can't just make stuff up and accuse people of things with nothing to back it up. It's nothing about a court, it's life. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Genie Posted August 9 Popular Post Share Posted August 9 Just now, Stevo985 said: You can't just make stuff up and accuse people of things with nothing to back it up. You can on Twitter 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ml1dch Posted August 9 Share Posted August 9 1 minute ago, Genie said: You can if you own Twitter FTFY 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
choffer Posted August 9 VT Supporter Share Posted August 9 4 minutes ago, Stevo985 said: You can't just make stuff up and accuse people of things with nothing to back it up. It's nothing about a court, it's life. Why not? It's worked for Nigel and Stephen Y-L for long enough? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted August 9 Share Posted August 9 3 minutes ago, ml1dch said: FTFY Or if the owner likes the lie you made up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidcow Posted August 9 VT Supporter Share Posted August 9 7 minutes ago, MCU said: Can me and you ever be civil ? I don't see why not. If we were introduced by random mates in a pub we might get on well. Certainly discuss the Villa. Depends where the conversation went. If we got onto the subject of the riots/immigration/black or Asian people and you expressed your opinions like you have you would probably see me shut down and quietly slope away. Depends on how the other topics went if we stayed off that really. I've known people who will launch into that kind of speak pretty quickly, I think to assess you to check if you are "one of them". It's certainly not a topic of conversation I'd go near normally. I remember having some decorators round who launched right into some highly offensive racist stuff when they were halfway through the job. I did think about telling them to get out of my house but I couldn't face the aggro of agreeing what I needed to pay for and then sorting someone else to finish it off so I just shut down and let them finish their job. Obviously I'd never use them again or recommend them to anyone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted August 9 Share Posted August 9 1 minute ago, choffer said: Why not? It's worked for Nigel and Stephen Y-L for long enough? Nigel’s grift is very clever, he has a way of saying something without actually saying it. Like JO’B was pointing out in the video the other day, Nigel likes to “ask the question” whether violence is the only way to make your point heard or whether the country has a plan for millions of rapists coming to the country. He gives just enough for the followers to pick it up and run with it without actually making it a statement of fact. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidcow Posted August 9 VT Supporter Share Posted August 9 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Genie said: Nigel’s grift is very clever, he has a way of saying something without actually saying it. Yes, he's always talking in double meaning., but careful enough so if accused he can shrug his shoulders, put his hands in the air and plead his innocence. "I'm only quoting what others are saying", "I'm only asking questions that people want answering" etc. I can't believe they haven't found anything on him. He must be getting backhanders from somewhere. He will overstep the mark some day though. Craftiness can only last so long. Now his words have had real world consequences I'm sure they will pay more attention to him. Edited August 9 by sidcow 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_AA_786 Posted August 9 Share Posted August 9 42 minutes ago, MCU said: It's not just the Southport murdering, it's the uncontrollable illegal immigration in general. These people aren't being vetted and are being put up by the tax payer. That's fact and that's part of why people are protesting. Appreciate you're getting quoted a fair bit but had to quote it so my response made sense. Illegal immigration costs the UK money in different ways (immigration officers, processing returns etc.) - you could also argue that any job they do may result in a Brit having to sign on but that's clutching at straws a bit. The actual amount spent on criminality from illegal migrants is fractional. Nevertheless as it's illegal immigration, we should be looking to stamp it out. If our argument is an economic one, then the mere choice to protest (saying protest not riot if we're saying this was the minority) was a stupid way to make the illegal immigration point as we now have Police officers moved from actual crimes to standing in high-vis, we have disruption to Businesses and "through the actions of the minority " countries have put the UK on travel watch lists. Honestly it's ****ing stupid and akin to saying I have an itch on my nose so let me resolve it by shooting myself in the face with a shotgun. Make it make sense The more economic way and and the correct way, would be through canvassing their MPs/Councillors and having petitions for debates in parliament where actual suggestions are thought our and outlined for how to improve the system are made. If the view is that the Politicians don't do anything, then we've apparently had large votes for Reform UK so their councilors should be championing these discussions in a productive way. I'm yet to hear any sound policies or arguments from Reform UK who I'm highlighting as their entire pretext for existing is supposedly illegal immigration. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidcow Posted August 9 VT Supporter Share Posted August 9 31 minutes ago, MCU said: Can me and you ever be civil ? Oh, and for what it's worth (if anything), I voted Tory in every election since I could vote until Boris Johnson put himself forward. I'm not exactly a lefty woke socialist, though I will admit I've moved left as I've got older. I think there are plenty on here with crackpot leftist views and I've questioned them equally about what kind of lefty utopia they think is going to be forged. I'm just calling all this out for what I see it as. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MCU Posted August 9 Share Posted August 9 23 minutes ago, sidcow said: I don't see why not. If we were introduced by random mates in a pub we might get on well. Certainly discuss the Villa. Depends where the conversation went. If we got onto the subject of the riots/immigration/black or Asian people and you expressed your opinions like you have you would probably see me shut down and quietly slope away. Depends on how the other topics went if we stayed off that really. I've known people who will launch into that kind of speak pretty quickly, I think to assess you to check if you are "one of them". It's certainly not a topic of conversation I'd go near normally. I remember having some decorators round who launched right into some highly offensive racist stuff when they were halfway through the job. I did think about telling them to get out of my house but I couldn't face the aggro of agreeing what I needed to pay for and then sorting someone else to finish it off so I just shut down and let them finish their job. Obviously I'd never use them again or recommend them to anyone. Fair play. Not going to lie, politically I'm learning all the time, especially as I'm getting older. Sometimes the tough love gets through so appreciate some of the rightful questioning. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MCU Posted August 9 Share Posted August 9 20 minutes ago, _AA_786 said: Appreciate you're getting quoted a fair bit but had to quote it so my response made sense. Illegal immigration costs the UK money in different ways (immigration officers, processing returns etc.) - you could also argue that any job they do may result in a Brit having to sign on but that's clutching at straws a bit. The actual amount spent on criminality from illegal migrants is fractional. Nevertheless as it's illegal immigration, we should be looking to stamp it out. If our argument is an economic one, then the mere choice to protest (saying protest not riot if we're saying this was the minority) was a stupid way to make the illegal immigration point as we now have Police officers moved from actual crimes to standing in high-vis, we have disruption to Businesses and "through the actions of the minority " countries have put the UK on travel watch lists. Honestly it's ****ing stupid and akin to saying I have an itch on my nose so let me resolve it by shooting myself in the face with a shotgun. Make it make sense The more economic way and and the correct way, would be through canvassing their MPs/Councillors and having petitions for debates in parliament where actual suggestions are thought our and outlined for how to improve the system are made. If the view is that the Politicians don't do anything, then we've apparently had large votes for Reform UK so their councilors should be championing these discussions in a productive way. I'm yet to hear any sound policies or arguments from Reform UK who I'm highlighting as their entire pretext for existing is supposedly illegal immigration. Do you think there's any truth in Reform's claim that NHS waiting lists, waiting for a DR's appointment and the need for more houses is contributed from immigration? I noticed this never really got challenged in the debates during the election. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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