jones1328 Posted August 6 Share Posted August 6 Just now, MCU said: I’m sure he’d be handling the situation a lot better than the fairy that’s in charge now And that's the point in which you've just completely lost the plot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_AA_786 Posted August 6 Share Posted August 6 1 hour ago, MCU said: Ah of course, no police presence on the streets of Birmingham last night and no announcement from that fraud in No . 10. ‘It’s not their fault, they were just trying to defend themselves (with machetes)’. Two Tier at its finest. State of this country 39 minutes ago, MCU said: I mean, it’s not hard but I’ll say it again. That there was no police presence when pubs were getting smashed in and people attacked? Not to mention wielding weapons. The police are probably absolutely knackered from trying to hold back the armed neanderthals throwing objects and kicking them for 2-3 days straight. So whilst it might be great to stroll up and down streets, they're having to allocate any resources to those incidents. And if you want to talk 2 tier policing or anything like that, then welcome to what non-whites have had for decades. It's not pleasant and the police are trying to improve, but its why we need to continue pushing for equality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post sidcow Posted August 6 VT Supporter Popular Post Share Posted August 6 (edited) 3 hours ago, MCU said: There’s no ‘softer’ approach about it. There was no approach. What are you not understanding? So you think the police should go wading in to a bunch of people standing around in a public area doing nothing, but should lay off a load of people shouting abuse at them, throwing rocks and metal objects at them, beating up people, terrorising people, looting and setting fire to property? You're damn right there was dual policing last night. There was no major presence needed because the muslins were acting in complete contrast you the white "patriots" you're oh so proud of. And show me the evidence there was zero policing? Show the evidence instead of spouting claptrap. You think less people are arrested in this country which are black as a proportion of the total population than are white? As others have said you think the cases of proven institutional racism in police is made up, you think stop and search is applied as equally to white people as black? The only FACTS you know are the selective ones you choose to believe. You should be ashamed. Sidcow born white in Birmingham, raised white in Birmingham, stood on The Holte every game since I was old enough to go. I am ashamed of EDL/BNP/Reform/The Football Lads / ANYONE and EVERYONE who has attended these thuggish riots the last few days. I am ashamed of them and hope they are locked up every single one of them. They don't represent me and they don't represent this country. They don't deserve to live in a free country like this. They make the streets more dangerous for our children. They talk about values but have none. They're scum and nothing more. I'd take a Muslim over them all day every day. Edited August 6 by sidcow 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MCU Posted August 6 Share Posted August 6 1 minute ago, Stevo985 said: Your "facts" are of course, not true. Embarrassing As I said, in denial. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted August 6 VT Supporter Share Posted August 6 2 minutes ago, _AA_786 said: The police are probably absolutely knackered from trying to hold back the armed neanderthals throwing objects and kicking them for 2-3 days straight. So whilst it might be great to stroll up and down streets, they're having to allocate any resources to those incidents. And if you want to talk 2 tier policing or anything like that, then welcome to what non-whites have had for decades. It's not pleasant and the police are trying to improve, but its why we need to continue pushing for equality. The police also attended all the incidents that were reported and have pledged to prosecute people involved. The MP has reinforced that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted August 6 VT Supporter Share Posted August 6 Just now, MCU said: As I said, in denial. As above, BBC is reporting the police attended the incidents. They and the MP for the area have pledged that people involved will be prosecuted "no matter who they are" Doesn't fit in with your "facts" though so you'll probably ignore it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MCU Posted August 6 Share Posted August 6 Just now, Stevo985 said: As above, BBC is reporting the police attended the incidents. They and the MP for the area have pledged that people involved will be prosecuted "no matter who they are" Doesn't fit in with your "facts" though so you'll probably ignore it The BBC said? **** hell mate, why didn’t you say it must be true then! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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desensitized43 Posted August 6 Share Posted August 6 Just now, MCU said: As I said, in denial. But again, I could show you a bunch of clips from the other day of the same thing by white folks and no police around. I remember seeing a video the other day of a black guy getting beaten by a mob and then the police arrested the black guy. What you're showing isn't evidence of "two tier policing"....can you provide any evidence, an internal memo, a secret recording of a meeting, an interview where actual police or anyone else are saying they will handle a protest differently because of someones ethnicity? What you're presenting is videos of brown guys doing stuff without coppers around and your feeling that the police are somehow absent because they're brown. Surely you see this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jones1328 Posted August 6 Share Posted August 6 1 minute ago, MCU said: The BBC said? **** hell mate, why didn’t you say it must be true then! I'm guessing you're more of a GBeebies man? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobzy Posted August 6 Share Posted August 6 3 minutes ago, MCU said: As I said, in denial. These scenes are obviously bad (I can't see anything being smashed up, but will happily take your word for it - it certainly seems like it could be) and anyone involved in any damage should be prosecuted - and likely will be. What I will also comment on is that there's some guy with a loudspeaker (presumably for chanting? who knows) who is part of this mass gathering running around saying "Chill! Chill! Yo yo yo yo - yo yo yo chill! Chill!... For **** sake, man, what are you doing?!" and trying to get people to stop. a) Where was any of that kind of behaviour during the rioting seen in different towns/cities across the country? Was anyone there trying to stop it? b) What has made you so angry at people who aren't white? (Presumably that's your angle, but feel free to correct me!) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StefanAVFC Posted August 6 VT Supporter Share Posted August 6 I always wondered. What makes the sources of truth that certain people consume, more bias free and factual than world-renowned famously neutral media? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_AA_786 Posted August 6 Share Posted August 6 @MCU by your logic of a few isolated incidents representing a far bigger issue, then the apology of one should equally represent the masses. Therefor on behalf of all non-whites, I apologise for whoever hurt you. Stay safe! 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MCU Posted August 6 Share Posted August 6 1 minute ago, desensitized43 said: But again, I could show you a bunch of clips from the other day of the same thing by white folks and no police around. I remember seeing a video the other day of a black guy getting beaten by a mob and then the police arrested the black guy. What you're showing isn't evidence of "two tier policing"....can you provide any evidence, an internal memo, a secret recording of a meeting, an interview where actual police or anyone else are saying they will handle a protest differently because of someones ethnicity? What you're presenting is videos of brown guys doing stuff without coppers around and your feeling that the police are somehow absent because they're brown. Surely you see this. I know there was police from the other day though, it was plastered over the media. Do you not understand my point? Where is the coverage from last night? Theres **** all because they were driven out, Sky News were literally chased out of there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jones1328 Posted August 6 Share Posted August 6 1 minute ago, StefanAVFC said: I always wondered. What makes the sources of truth that certain people consume, more bias free and factual than world-renowned famously neutral media? A lobotomy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 6 Share Posted August 6 Tom Swarbrick does brilliantly here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jones1328 Posted August 6 Share Posted August 6 1 minute ago, MCU said: I know there was police from the other day though, it was plastered over the media. Do you not understand my point? Where is the coverage from last night? Theres **** all because they were driven out, Sky News were literally chased out of there. Didn't realise you were so concerned about people being driven out of town. It must of really upset you to see all those asylum seekers being driven out of town after thier hotels were broken into and set ablaze then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davkaus Posted August 6 Share Posted August 6 Just now, jones1328 said: Didn't realise you were so concerned about people being driven out of town. It must of really upset you to see all those asylum seekers being driven out of town after thier hotels were broken into and set ablaze then? Literally didn't acknowledge it, it's incredibly obvious. Active throughout the weekend, just had absolutely nothing to say until he had an opportunity to criticise muslims. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
desensitized43 Posted August 6 Share Posted August 6 3 minutes ago, MCU said: I know there was police from the other day though, it was plastered over the media. Do you not understand my point? Where is the coverage from last night? Theres **** all because they were driven out, Sky News were literally chased out of there. No mate I'm afraid I don't. There were police in some places, but not all as that's impossible. Sky news sent one of their correspondants to Plymouth...he so happened to be a black guy and there's a dude making monkey gestures behind him so they had to cut away. Much like what you saw last night it wasn't safe to report so they had to leave. There's been coverage of the Birmingham stuff on Sky and BBC all day. If you can't see it then you're being wilfully blind. Again, you have this mentality issue where you think things are unfairly stacked against you, but it just isn't true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seat68 Posted August 6 Share Posted August 6 4 minutes ago, bobzy said: It's not even really to reason him out of his position - I agree with what you're saying. I just want to understand that angle because it's so alien to me; and I've had conversation with him in the past which has been entirely reasonable - this seems like a different person, almost. I think a few of us have and I agree, the nature of their posts doesnt match those conversations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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