Rugeley Villa Posted August 21 Share Posted August 21 28 minutes ago, sidcow said: What, you fell in the Canal as well? Bad day man! Nah the water is really fresh in that part of wales so it wasn’t too bad. Now if it was south wales then yeah you’re talking a bad day. #Bangor>Barry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidcow Posted August 21 VT Supporter Share Posted August 21 3 minutes ago, Rugeley Villa said: Nah the water is really fresh in that part of wales so it wasn’t too bad. Now if it was south wales then yeah you’re talking a bad day. #Bangor>Barry 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rugeley Villa Posted August 21 Share Posted August 21 If you know you know Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobzy Posted August 21 Share Posted August 21 "A 27-year-old man has pleaded guilty to arson with intent to endanger life, violent disorder and possession of an offensive weapon. Thomas Birley, of Rowms Lane, Swinton, Rotherham, is accused of stoking the fire in the bin that was pushed against an exit at a hotel housing asylum seekers in Manvers on 4 August. He was also accused of throwing items at the police and squaring up to officers with riot shields while brandishing a police baton. Recorder of Sheffield Judge Jeremy Richardson KC told the court the case was, so far, "unquestionably the most serious" in relation to the disorder in Rotherham. "This is a crime which carries a life sentence. "I rule nothing in and rule nothing out," Richardson adds. Birley is due to be sentenced on 6 September." (Link: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/cx29nk7gdkqt) Ooft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidcow Posted August 21 VT Supporter Share Posted August 21 1 minute ago, bobzy said: "A 27-year-old man has pleaded guilty to arson with intent to endanger life, violent disorder and possession of an offensive weapon. Thomas Birley, of Rowms Lane, Swinton, Rotherham, is accused of stoking the fire in the bin that was pushed against an exit at a hotel housing asylum seekers in Manvers on 4 August. He was also accused of throwing items at the police and squaring up to officers with riot shields while brandishing a police baton. Recorder of Sheffield Judge Jeremy Richardson KC told the court the case was, so far, "unquestionably the most serious" in relation to the disorder in Rotherham. "This is a crime which carries a life sentence. "I rule nothing in and rule nothing out," Richardson adds. Birley is due to be sentenced on 6 September." (Link: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/cx29nk7gdkqt) Ooft. Doesn't bode well for those lighting fires at the Tamworth hotel fire exit. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted August 21 Share Posted August 21 7 minutes ago, sidcow said: Doesn't bode well for those lighting fires at the Tamworth hotel fire exit. They were trying for a good 30-45 minutes. I’m sure the police have lots of 4k footage of those involved from the drone and all the videos on social media. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidcow Posted August 21 VT Supporter Share Posted August 21 1 minute ago, Genie said: They were trying for a good 30-45 minutes. I’m sure the police have lots of 4k footage of those involved from the drone and all the videos on social media. At the end of the day you're trying to burn down a building with people inside. It should be manslaughter and possibly murder. How evil do you have to be to even attempt that? Regardless of your political views that's just pure evil. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulC Posted August 21 Share Posted August 21 8 minutes ago, sidcow said: At the end of the day you're trying to burn down a building with people inside. It should be manslaughter and possibly murder. How evil do you have to be to even attempt that? Regardless of your political views that's just pure evil. More attempted murder which can carry up to a life sentence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted August 21 Moderator Share Posted August 21 11 minutes ago, sidcow said: At the end of the day you're trying to burn down a building with people inside. It should be manslaughter and possibly murder. How evil do you have to be to even attempt that? Regardless of your political views that's just pure evil. Arson with intent to endanger life. Maximum sentence Life 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted August 21 Share Posted August 21 1 minute ago, bickster said: Arson with intent to endanger life. Maximum sentence Life That’ll get the media covering it if they make it stick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted August 21 Moderator Share Posted August 21 13 minutes ago, Genie said: That’ll get the media covering it if they make it stick. Can't see how they wouldn't, unfortunately it has to be tried by jury regardless of plea, so that will take some time. The bigger sentences will take longer to come out because of their very nature. Magistrates are only allowed to try summary offences where the sentence is within their limits. This is an indictable offence and the sentence is waaaaaay outside that that a magistrate can hand out 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rugeley Villa Posted August 21 Share Posted August 21 Rebels without a cause. Not the brightest are they. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nor-Cal Villan Posted August 21 Share Posted August 21 2 hours ago, Rugeley Villa said: Rebels without a cause. Not the brightest are they. Rebels without a clue RIP TP 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheepyvillian Posted August 24 Share Posted August 24 (edited) On 21/08/2024 at 12:03, Rugeley Villa said: Nah the water is really fresh in that part of wales so it wasn’t too bad. Now if it was south wales then yeah you’re talking a bad day. #Bangor>Barry We (Brum) get our water from Wales. The best "Council Pop" in the Country. The Elan Valley, courtesy of that wonderful adopted Brummie, Joseph Chamberlain. Edited August 24 by sheepyvillian 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheepyvillian Posted August 25 Share Posted August 25 On 16/08/2024 at 13:56, sidcow said: That's how far we've come in the UK. Starting to resemble the 1920s deep south in America. For Nothing at all like "1920s deep South America". I don't see any black people hanging from magnolia trees for allegedly raping white women. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjmooney Posted August 25 VT Supporter Share Posted August 25 Just now, sheepyvillian said: Nothing at all like "1920s deep South America". I don't see any black people hanging from magnolia trees for allegedly raping white women. Quite right. But there are, without a doubt, those who would relish doing that very thing if they thought they could get away with it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheepyvillian Posted August 25 Share Posted August 25 (edited) 8 minutes ago, mjmooney said: Quite right. But there are, without a doubt, those who would relish doing that very thing if they thought they could get away with Unfortunately, you can't stop people thinking, however hateful their thoughts may be. Edited August 25 by sheepyvillian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidcow Posted August 25 VT Supporter Share Posted August 25 1 hour ago, sheepyvillian said: Nothing at all like "1920s deep South America". I don't see any black people hanging from magnolia trees for allegedly raping white women. You seem to struggling to differentiate between "resemble" and "exactly like" The actual hanging wasn't far off with some of these sub humans. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheepyvillian Posted August 25 Share Posted August 25 (edited) 10 minutes ago, sidcow said: You seem to struggling to differentiate between "resemble" and "exactly like" The actual hanging wasn't far off with some of these sub humans. Stop with the semantics. It's a ridiculous comparison. Those Black people hanging from trees in the southern states of America were not "Immigrants." They were as American as the white people who lynched them. Don't compare some idiotic outbreaks of violence by idiots, to 400 years of oppression, that is still going on today. Edited August 25 by sheepyvillian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rolta Posted August 25 Share Posted August 25 1 minute ago, sheepyvillian said: Stop with the semantics. It's a ridiculous comparison. Those Black people hanging from trees in the southern states of America were not "Immigrants." They were as American as the white people who lynched them. Don't compare some idiotic outbreaks of violence by idiots, to 400 years of oppression, that is still going on today. Ridiculous comparison. Well it was all racism fuelled by bullshit so it's not that ridiculous. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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