Chindie Posted August 2 VT Supporter Share Posted August 2 2 minutes ago, fruitvilla said: That is fair enough ... the XY karyotype claim is a little apocryphal (but not completely). But that should improve the odds for your bet. It appears to be unproven. That's the issue. Am I going to be shocked if it turns out Khelif has an intersex/DSD condition? No. But it needs to be proven and it needs to be done carefully and sensitively if it does turn out that they do have a DSD condition. At the moment the 'debate' is a shit show. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobzy Posted August 2 Share Posted August 2 4 hours ago, Kuwabatake Sanjuro said: That is some useful background into the Khelif situation and checks out from what I've read so far. I've taken note of the people on here who deliberately misgendered her and I hope that if ye have any children that they grow up to be SHA fans. Aye, same old people, same old views. Sad world we live in, sometimes. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KentVillan Posted August 3 Share Posted August 3 5 hours ago, Kuwabatake Sanjuro said: That is some useful background into the Khelif situation and checks out from what I've read so far. I've taken note of the people on here who deliberately misgendered her and I hope that if ye have any children that they grow up to be SHA fans. Funny thing is it’s just out of touch weirdos on VT taking her (his) side and most ordinary always youthful people can see the truth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
il_serpente Posted August 3 VT Supporter Share Posted August 3 15 hours ago, Demitri_C said: Didnt clarissa shields speak against it? She didnt specify names but highlighted about the safety of women. I dont care what catergory they fight in as long as all women are kept safe. Thats what important. Fighters safety Is it just me that sees the bolded phrase as a bit of an oxymoron? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Stevo985 Posted August 3 VT Supporter Popular Post Share Posted August 3 The portrayal of this as “woke” gone mad and the desire by some to portray it as a man pretending to be a woman is frankly disgraceful 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rolta Posted August 3 Share Posted August 3 1 hour ago, Stevo985 said: The portrayal of this as “woke” gone mad and the desire by some to portray it as a man pretending to be a woman is frankly disgraceful Classic people see what they want to see, and they really want to see it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davkaus Posted August 3 Share Posted August 3 2 hours ago, Stevo985 said: The portrayal of this as “woke” gone mad and the desire by some to portray it as a man pretending to be a woman is frankly disgraceful The reporting of this on the day of the fight had me genuinely thinking she was trans, they didn't specifically say it but it was certainly the impression. It's an absolute shitshow 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisp65 Posted August 3 Share Posted August 3 1 hour ago, Rolta said: Classic people see what they want to see, and they really want to see it. Absolutely. The likes of Sharon Davis and JK Rowling jumped with no evidence, just started calling someone a male based on shit they had read on the internet. These people don’t care about anything but their profile the actual ‘cause’ is long forgotten and it’s just become witchfinding and clicks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colhint Posted August 3 Share Posted August 3 What evidence is there though. As far as I'm aware the boxing federation said no but the Olympics said yes. I don't know who is right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacketspuds Posted August 3 Share Posted August 3 On 02/08/2024 at 10:52, foreveryoung said: Ohh my goodness, the lengths some people will blag for defence. You'd be an amazing defence lawyer. You wouldn't win f*** all mind Wouldn’t win **** all? That’s actually quite the compliment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCJonah Posted August 3 Share Posted August 3 Why is it the same people that jump on this, jump on climate change being nonsense, that police should be able to stamp on anyone who attack them, spread racist lies on twitter etc... The idea that it's people genuinely concerned about the safety of women boxers is as ludicrous as believing those attacking the mosques are worried about children's safety. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted August 3 VT Supporter Share Posted August 3 2 hours ago, Davkaus said: The reporting of this on the day of the fight had me genuinely thinking she was trans, they didn't specifically say it but it was certainly the impression. It's an absolute shitshow Yep. I honestly think if you ask people who have heard this story to explain it the vast majority would say it’s a man pretending to be a woman. The amount of people saying it’s “woke” is mental. 20+ years ago it wouldn’t be a story because nobody would even be talking about testing gender Its basically the opposite of a modern day “woke gone mad” story Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted August 3 VT Supporter Share Posted August 3 24 minutes ago, DCJonah said: Why is it the same people that jump on this, jump on climate change being nonsense, that police should be able to stamp on anyone who attack them, spread racist lies on twitter etc... The idea that it's people genuinely concerned about the safety of women boxers is as ludicrous as believing those attacking the mosques are worried about children's safety. All favourite right wing talking points Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisp65 Posted August 3 Share Posted August 3 1 hour ago, colhint said: What evidence is there though. As far as I'm aware the boxing federation said no but the Olympics said yes. I don't know who is right. None. Which is what makes the calling out someone as other sex so utterly stupid. In this country there is shame or embarrassment and a threat to livelihood. In Algeria, potentially much worse. People should maybe wait for facts not spew their bile as soon as the usual suspects start their campaign. There is a growing element in society that just get a bit excited whenever subjects like this come up. You know the ones, they like to do their own research. Which usually mostly involves twitter, facebook, and what they heard someone heard in a pub. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colhint Posted August 3 Share Posted August 3 14 minutes ago, chrisp65 said: None. Which is what makes the calling out someone as other sex so utterly stupid. In this country there is shame or embarrassment and a threat to livelihood. In Algeria, potentially much worse. People should maybe wait for facts not spew their bile as soon as the usual suspects start their campaign. There is a growing element in society that just get a bit excited whenever subjects like this come up. You know the ones, they like to do their own research. Which usually mostly involves twitter, facebook, and what they heard someone heard in a pub. So why was she banned by the boxing board? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StefanAVFC Posted August 3 VT Supporter Share Posted August 3 57 minutes ago, Stevo985 said: Yep. I honestly think if you ask people who have heard this story to explain it the vast majority would say it’s a man pretending to be a woman. The amount of people saying it’s “woke” is mental. 20+ years ago it wouldn’t be a story because nobody would even be talking about testing gender Its basically the opposite of a modern day “woke gone mad” story It’s the lack of critical thinking for me. “Woke world has gone mad, I knew they’d start sending trannies to the Olympics. Famously woke, liberal, LGBT friendly Algeria.” 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chindie Posted August 3 VT Supporter Share Posted August 3 3 minutes ago, colhint said: So why was she banned by the boxing board? We don't know. The IBA claimed they used a test, which they haven't declared, but did not test testosterone, mid tournament, which showed she had XY chromosomes. And there are question marks over the process, why they did this etc - it appears to have been a decision made unilaterally by the head of the federation. The federation has also been done for corruption, hence the Olympics ditching them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonLax Posted August 3 Share Posted August 3 7 minutes ago, colhint said: So why was she banned by the boxing board? Supposedly they did their own testing and disqualified her but have never said what test they did or what the results were. There is a bit of a conspiracy theory posted about it all a few pages back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StefanAVFC Posted August 3 VT Supporter Share Posted August 3 not happy with letting a transgender beat up women, they’re letting an actual man compete in women’s events now wokeness gone mad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted August 3 Moderator Share Posted August 3 23 minutes ago, colhint said: So why was she banned by the boxing board? You mean the boxing board whose only financial sponsor is Gazprom who banned her just after she beat a Russian? (in addition to what was posted above) Oh and the IBA themselves have been banned from the Olympics since 2019 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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