VillaChris Posted July 15 Share Posted July 15 55 minutes ago, Genie said: I wouldn’t be shocked if they appointed Lampard, but I’m sure it would be a terrible idea. He was on the BBC panel this tournament which genuinely was watching a different tournament to the majority when England were playing. Lampard in club football can't organise defences either. Think Chelsea conceded 50 + goals the season he was there so struggling to get far in major finals if the defence are letting two in on regular basis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rjw63 Posted July 15 Share Posted July 15 Where's the "I don't care" option? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
useless Posted July 15 Share Posted July 15 If a genuine top class manager such as Guardioa, Klopp, and so on is unavailable, then the most obvious solution is Lee Carsley, he has the U21s playing scintillatingly fantastic football, the best football I've seen England play at that level, it's night and day from what the likes of Boothroyd and Southgate offered, in terms of style it's far out from what the senior team currently offers, he's knows most of England's best young talents having coached them and coached them well, of course some say it's only U21 football, but that remonstration doesn't hold true for U21 football at international level, because it's the very best players being managed and being managed against, of course he isn't an hyped up name that the well intentioned masses will rejoice at, but he makes more sense, than some names being mentioned, Eddie Howe leads the poll? and people bemoan Southgate? they're from the same work hard and wait for a moment of brilliance school of thought, either get a serial winner, or someone who will get this exciting generation playing total football. One question with Carsley though is would he be so brave to play the football he does at U21 level with the seniors where the pressure is much higher, and I don't think he's a particularly good manager per se, if he was appointed at club level I wouldn't be convined he was going to do well, just in theory he should be uniquely suited to the young England team. Another concern is that if Carsley was given the senior job, I wouldn't be surprised to see Lampard given the U21 job, with a view to eventually becoming senior manager Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rds1983 Posted July 15 VT Supporter Share Posted July 15 Rooney. After Southgate, I no longer care about international football. But I do kinda care for Argyle and if we can get them some money for getting that clown out of there, then that's a win/win. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodders0223 Posted July 15 Share Posted July 15 59 minutes ago, Demitri_C said: I cant believe im gonna say this but id rathee go with gerrard than lampard. Lampards failed everywhere he has gone. Gerrard has had one success and failed everywhere else Honestly potters the best free agent out there. I think he would be good We shouldn't be going for any English coach tbh, maybe Howe. They're all tactically inept and engrained in negative football and shit the bed tactics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulC Posted July 15 Share Posted July 15 3 hours ago, VillaChris said: He was on the BBC panel this tournament which genuinely was watching a different tournament to the majority when England were playing. Lampard in club football can't organise defences either. Think Chelsea conceded 50 + goals the season he was there so struggling to get far in major finals if the defence are letting two in on regular basis. The opposite to Southgate then Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeyp102 Posted July 15 Share Posted July 15 Not Howe, he’d be a decent enough candidate, but he’s not quite elite, ergo Newcastle aren’t elite. If he left I think they could appoint a proper elite manager and I don’t want that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeyp102 Posted July 15 Share Posted July 15 16 hours ago, Tomaszk said: Sherwood would have just won that Euros with this England squad and he's better than him. He really wouldn’t have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Follyfoot Posted July 15 VT Supporter Share Posted July 15 Brucey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colhint Posted July 15 Share Posted July 15 go abroad, I can't remember who the last English manager to win anything. Domestically or European Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjmooney Posted July 15 VT Supporter Share Posted July 15 Howe. Weaken Newcastle at the same time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulC Posted July 15 Share Posted July 15 13 minutes ago, colhint said: go abroad, I can't remember who the last English manager to win anything. Domestically or European Done that twice before though without success. Best England managers have been English Ramsey, vennables, Robson, Southgate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strog Posted July 15 Share Posted July 15 The FA will inevitably make the wrong appointment. Fully expect Fwank Lampost to get the job.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
viivvaa66 Posted July 15 Share Posted July 15 9 minutes ago, colhint said: go abroad, I can't remember who the last English manager to win anything. Domestically or European I would like them to just look at English managers only, to make sure Emery isn’t going to be a candidate. Otto Rehhagen is the only “abroad” manager to have won an international tournament. We have had two managers from abroad, neither that successful. I would an assume a foreign manager would have less passion about being an England manager, and most likely not given it 100%. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
switters Posted July 15 Share Posted July 15 Think if Southgate goes now, Potter is the obvious available and reasonable option. Doubt Howe would leave Newcastle for it unless expecting sack soon. Outside bet Carrick? same kind of route as Southgate, if the ex-player thing holds weight, he's perhaps better bet than Gerrard/Lampard/Rooney who've all flopped in their big opportunities Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MapleVilla Posted July 15 Share Posted July 15 I think people thinking we would go and get a Klopp or Guardiola type appointment are going to be very disappointed. England did a whole review of everything, years ago. Coaching from the top down. That's why we have the squads that we have now. Everyone was moaning about Maguire constantly being in the team, but was constantly injured or awful for United. Gone are the days of throwing in the best players, and moulding a team. It's a blend of the top performing players (kane, foden etc) and throwing in a youngster who's been playing incredibly well (Mainoo, Palmer). On the other end, players who have hardly ever put a food wrong (your Maguires, Trippiers etc). Even though they may not have had the best of seasons. It's the same with the coaches. They'll want someone they can build with and especially with an U-21 coach who knows the youngsters and can bring them through. Spain have done with De La Fuente. To me it screams Carsley all day long as the next England coach, whenever that happens to be. But what do I know? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colhint Posted July 15 Share Posted July 15 (edited) 51 minutes ago, viivvaa66 said: I would like them to just look at English managers only, to make sure Emery isn’t going to be a candidate. Otto Rehhagen is the only “abroad” manager to have won an international tournament. We have had two managers from abroad, neither that successful. I would an assume a foreign manager would have less passion about being an England manager, and most likely not given it 100%. It's one of the highest paid jobs in the sport. So I think a candidate would be well focused on keeping that job, same as any other profession. Also if you look at the most vowed league in the world there is only one Englishman in the top ten. And it's been like that for ages Edited July 15 by colhint Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
viivvaa66 Posted July 15 Share Posted July 15 1 hour ago, colhint said: It's one of the highest paid jobs in the sport. So I think a candidate would be well focused on keeping that job, same as any other profession. Also if you look at the most vowed league in the world there is only one Englishman in the top ten. And it's been like that for ages Southgate is on £5mill per year. Emery makes £8mill. No, the England manager job is not the best payed job out there, far from it. That means you can an English manager that mainly do it for King and country or something like that, plus a salary, or you get a top foreigner to take a pay cut, or you get a foreigner on the level FA pays. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted July 15 Author Share Posted July 15 Id love deano to get it but the mwdia would destroy him so i kind of want him to stay away from it. Im torn 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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