stewiek2 Posted July 15 Share Posted July 15 So how many Tommy Elphick's is he? A hundred? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted July 15 Share Posted July 15 45 minutes ago, DaveAV1 said: He’d certainly get into the @TROsquad and that’s a good thing, physical presence can’t be ignored or under valued at any level of football but especially in the PL, it was one of our weaknesses last season and signing Onana solves it, well done Unai and Monchi again. UTV !!!!!!! Only for certain positions, however, even Spains wingers look quite tall, for wingers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted July 15 Share Posted July 15 19 hours ago, beachboys1 said: wonder why some everton fans wernt keen on him curved ball, to our progress. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beachboys1 Posted July 15 Share Posted July 15 19 hours ago, alreadyexists said: In Dyche’s system no one stands out or is given any scope to play, so I’d expect his instructions were: tackle/pass back/hoof. and if you try to play football your out 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveAV1 Posted July 15 Share Posted July 15 1 hour ago, TRO said: Only for certain positions, however, even Spains wingers look quite tall, for wingers. Well Ollie joined us as a winger. A good big ‘un generally trumps a good little ‘un, as those of us that have reached a certain age, would appreciate. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post duke313 Posted July 15 Popular Post Share Posted July 15 Really good write up on Onana and other potential DMs by a Man United blogger (Man Utd Midfield Rebuild: Part 3 – Hybrid DM targets - thedevilsdna.com). Interestingly he did a similar write up on Kamara when he was still at Marsielle before we signed him. Amadou Onana, 23, Everton Career: A Hoffenheim youth product, Onana joined Hamburger in mid-2020 and played close to every game for the side until Lille picked him up in summer 2021. A great season for Lille was enough for Everton to pay £33m including add-ons in August 2022. His development has only continued at the Premier League club and is now attracting the eyes of Europe’s best clubs. Pros: Ground-coverage due to athleticism and strides Physicality and application in ground duels Aerial domination thanks to physique and jumping power Forward-minded passing – through balls, switches, cutbacks Close control to wriggle out of man-marked pressure Verticality in passing and carrying to drive team into opponent half Ball-striking technique when passing or shooting Set piece threat in attacking set pieces especially corners Cons: Overzealous in the tackle, often sliding to ground or lunging Defensive awareness and positioning leading to marking mistakes Tendency to press higher and rely on pace and reach to recover Avoids back-to-goal reception and involvement in first phase Positioning in possession to free himself or open lanes In possession: Onana’s in-possession game is very underrated. He has excellent technique which combined with his mental and physical traits, make him a very skilled and consistent passer and carrier. He has a very good progressive pass in him, often belting out a perfectly executed switch, cross-pass or through ball. His close control and carrying are also very intricate for his frame and he often unleashes a dribble burst through the middle of the park in transition. Whether it’s passing or carrying, Onana is elite in the 2nd phase progression actions of getting his team from their third to the opponent third – an amazing midfield linker. He does have some gaps in deeper areas. I have concerns over his positioning and awareness when his team has the ball. Onana often doesn’t free himself up or think in advance and relies heavily on his ability to receive under pressure and power his way out instead. He also avoids first reception duties from the GK/CB on the few occasions he plays as the deepest player, but some part of this could be tactical. Feels like peak Arturo Vidal in possession. Out of possession: Onana is very good as a proactive defender. He presses and tackles early and always comes out on top in duels. He has enough physicality and technicality to win duels without being clumsy. His ground-covering is probably his best trait. An engine like his combined with body span means he’s always a few large steps away from stopping a dribber or thwarting a transition. Aerially, he is one of the most dominant players in the league. At both ends, he has impact in the boxes and has picked up some goals from attacking corners and regularly clears danger from his box as well. One issue I found with his tackling is his propensity to go to ground. He does slide or lunge a bit too easily and while it’s not a big issue since he wins the ball most of the time, on the rare occasions he doesn’t, he’s left on the floor bypassed. I also think he needs to improve his awareness and positioning. He’s often roaming in no man’s land and missing runs or players. Again, it rarely leads to anything because once he notices it, he recovers with great speed and long strides to make up. But that consistent habit of pushing up or roaming from his position and then relying on recovery pace to tackle from behind (often a sliding tackle) doesn’t bode well for a lone pivot role. Feels like Declan Rice in defence. Verdict: I think Onana is much better in possession than his pizza stats or Everton’s tactics suggest, while he isn’t as elite in defence as many imagine. In both cases, I think he has gaps in deeper areas that throw doubt on his reliability as a lone 6. The good news is that a lot of it seems mental or habit related which means that it can be coached when he moves to a top team. The physical and technical traits are all there, so the gaps should be coverable. I’m cutting 2 marks for the need for this development. The Devil’s DNA Score: 8/10 4 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CVByrne Posted July 15 Share Posted July 15 6 minutes ago, duke313 said: Cons: Overzealous in the tackle, often sliding to ground or lunging Defensive awareness and positioning leading to marking mistakes Tendency to press higher and rely on pace and reach to recover Avoids back-to-goal reception and involvement in first phase Positioning in possession to free himself or open lanes All things that can be coached by Emery as part of our system. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duke313 Posted July 15 Share Posted July 15 17 minutes ago, CVByrne said: All things that can be coached by Emery as part of our system. Yep, and we know Emery can iron out those flaws. It feels like we're getting a world class midfielder, who has the potential to be really elite. I've a feeling teams will be kicking themselves in a couple seasons saying why didn't we buy him. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveAV1 Posted July 15 Share Posted July 15 Is it fair to draw comparisons with him and Fellani or is that just because of his possition and former club? Ie a lazy conclusion thst could forge a new career for me in journalism? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jas10 Posted July 15 Share Posted July 15 4 minutes ago, DaveAV1 said: Is it fair to draw comparisons with him and Fellani or is that just because of his possition and former club? Ie a lazy conclusion thst could forge a new career for me in journalism? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveAV1 Posted July 15 Share Posted July 15 6 minutes ago, Jas10 said: Possibly a slight over reaction there Jas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Jas10 Posted July 15 Share Posted July 15 1 hour ago, DaveAV1 said: Possibly a slight over reaction there Jas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ender4 Posted July 15 Share Posted July 15 6 minutes ago, Jas10 said: Any sign of the medical yet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ender4 Posted July 15 Share Posted July 15 What sort of salary do people think he'll be on? 100k a week? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jas10 Posted July 15 Share Posted July 15 Just now, ender4 said: Any sign of the medical yet? He tweeted that it had been booked in for this week, and deal signed off this week. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HalfTimePost Posted July 15 Share Posted July 15 5 minutes ago, ender4 said: What sort of salary do people think he'll be on? 100k a week? More than that for £50m imo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Czarnikjak Posted July 15 Share Posted July 15 34 minutes ago, ender4 said: What sort of salary do people think he'll be on? 100k a week? Amongst top earners for sure. 120k perhaps? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stewiek2 Posted July 15 Share Posted July 15 1 hour ago, Czarnikjak said: Amongst top earners for sure. 120k perhaps? Pocket change for Digne. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ejs1111 Posted July 15 Share Posted July 15 4 minutes ago, stewiek2 said: Pocket change for Digne. Agreed. All new players wages are defined in terms of Dignes. Onana is prolly on 0.35 Digne He's also about 5.75 Elphicks tall 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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