The Fun Factory Posted July 5 Share Posted July 5 Oh crap I forgot the football is on. I have been enjoying this thread too much! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobzy Posted July 5 Share Posted July 5 (edited) 10 minutes ago, Rugeley Villa said: I don’t get it. People being narrow minded calling other people narrow minded. It could be. The thing is, you largely get on with people who have similar values to yourself and that naturally branches politics. I don't think anyone would really dislike someone purely because they're left-wing when "one" is right-wing (or vice-versa), but harbouring different values may well mean that they can't be friends, as such. Edited July 5 by bobzy 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomav84 Posted July 5 VT Supporter Share Posted July 5 7 minutes ago, Davkaus said: I've got mates with whom I have absolutely never discussed politics. Couldn't care less who they vote for, their politics never comes up and neither does mine. I do have some mates that are far more politically engaged, bring it up a lot, and I imagine we'd fall out if we had radically different views maybe not discuss politics, but you'd have an idea through general chit chat which way they lean. and if their views massively differ from yours, then you probably aren't friends anyway Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post blandy Posted July 5 Moderator Popular Post Share Posted July 5 As this is the match thread, I’ve got to say that the Manager, Kier Starmer, did brilliantly with his tactics. Less than 40% possession and an absolute horsing of the other side. Disappointed with the hooligans who invaded a small part of the pitch, they claimed to be reformed characters, but looked like the old English Defence League lot. Its always cheering when the Blues get walloped. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rugeley Villa Posted July 5 Share Posted July 5 16 minutes ago, bobzy said: It could be. The thing is, you largely get on with people who have similar values to yourself and that naturally branches politics. I don't think anyone would really dislike someone purely because they're left-wing when "one" is right-wing (or vice-versa), but harbouring different values may well mean that they can't be friends, as such. I get on with all kinds mate but maybe that’s an exception . I get on with someone very well who’s an hard left loony. We’ve had discussions we’ve had the craic but never ever thought about not getting on with him because he’s polar opposite to me. I also get on with people with very racist views. Less discussion about politics with them. If someone I know wants Muslims deported or wants more Muslims let in then I’m not going to not get on with them because of that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rugeley Villa Posted July 5 Share Posted July 5 I can tell you now my missus has taken more money off me than the Tory’s ever **** will 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Davkaus Posted July 5 Popular Post Share Posted July 5 I'm quite content with the idea that some might consider me to be "narrow minded" for having a zero tolerance level for racism from people I'd consider friends, because as a rule, I'm not mates with words removed. I'm just funny like that. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidcow Posted July 5 VT Supporter Share Posted July 5 16 minutes ago, tomav84 said: maybe not discuss politics, but you'd have an idea through general chit chat which way they lean. and if their views massively differ from yours, then you probably aren't friends anyway Exactly. You're not talking politics at all, but you might mention how terrible it is that these migrants are drowning in the sea and your mate replies that it's great and if any get through they should be shot on the beach. Do you laugh in a buddy to buddy kind of way or do you stare at him thinking WTF and then have an argument about it. You turn to the other mate and say how awful it is that your daughter can't get a doctors appointment when she's pretty ill and he responds she must be a freeloader and shouldn't expect anything for free so should go and pay for a bloody doctor if she's so ill. Is the situation that no one has talked about politics or is it a fact that pretty much every facet of life runs from politics and you all have an opinion on pretty much everything? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davkaus Posted July 5 Share Posted July 5 5 minutes ago, sidcow said: Is the situation that no one has talked about politics or is it a fact that pretty much every facet of life runs from politics and you all have an opinion on pretty much everything? I'm probably the weird one here but I've absolutely got mates that I see every couple of weeks and I have absolutely no idea which way they vote. We don't make even passing reference to current events, and if we mentioned a struggle getting a doctor's appointment, the response would probably be "ah, that sucks" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rugeley Villa Posted July 5 Share Posted July 5 1 minute ago, Davkaus said: I'm probably the weird one here but I've absolutely got mates that I see every couple of weeks and I have absolutely no idea which way they vote. We don't make even passing reference to current events, and if we mentioned a struggle getting a doctor's appointment, the response would probably be "ah, that sucks" Yeah there’s a lot of that with most people myself included . To be honest I’m not a people person anyway and sometimes would rather be on my own or with my family . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wishywashy Posted July 5 Share Posted July 5 (edited) Not a single constituency where last season's Football League clubs were based went Conservative. Pretty wild. Edited July 5 by wishywashy 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonyh29 Posted July 5 Share Posted July 5 (edited) 13 minutes ago, Davkaus said: I'm probably the weird one here but I've absolutely got mates that I see every couple of weeks and I have absolutely no idea which way they vote. We don't make even passing reference to current events, and if we mentioned a struggle getting a doctor's appointment, the response would probably be "ah, that sucks" Was just thinking I’ve got a couple of dozen WhatsApp groups for tennis , footie , school mates , NCT , gigs etc there wasn’t one single post last night about the elections , and then a few humorous pics this afternoon , but no gloating , no thank **** they’ve gone , nothing Im perfectly happy with that as I don’t have to fall out with people that matter … I can come in here and fall out with you bunch of word removeds who don’t matter instead edit - should add that I enjoyed this thread last night an enjoyable way to watch an election Edited July 5 by tonyh29 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobzy Posted July 5 Share Posted July 5 (edited) 28 minutes ago, Rugeley Villa said: I get on with all kinds mate but maybe that’s an exception . I get on with someone very well who’s an hard left loony. We’ve had discussions we’ve had the craic but never ever thought about not getting on with him because he’s polar opposite to me. I also get on with people with very racist views. Less discussion about politics with them. If someone I know wants Muslims deported or wants more Muslims let in then I’m not going to not get on with them because of that. I find that staggering. I think it's one thing to have a harder line view on immigration and another to be outright racist. I don't think I could be friends with someone who is racist. Each to their own, though! Edited July 5 by bobzy 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheltenham_villa Posted July 5 Share Posted July 5 14 minutes ago, Davkaus said: I'm probably the weird one here but I've absolutely got mates that I see every couple of weeks and I have absolutely no idea which way they vote. We don't make even passing reference to current events, and if we mentioned a struggle getting a doctor's appointment, the response would probably be "ah, that sucks" exactly the same. Ive got load of friends that i suspect probably didnt vote. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonyh29 Posted July 5 Share Posted July 5 2 minutes ago, bobzy said: I find that staggering. I think it's one thing to have a harder line view on immigration and another to be outright racist. I don't think I could be friends with someone who is racist. Each to their own, though! I’m with you on this … some of my school mates who’ve I’ve been friends with since before we knew what boobies were have some hard views on stuff that you can kinda ignore , laugh and hope they were joking or sometimes try and pull them up on , but I had one who was posting burning crosses and KKK masks and shit and he got binned and I have nothing to do with him any more … 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rugeley Villa Posted July 5 Share Posted July 5 (edited) 11 minutes ago, bobzy said: I find that staggering. I think it's one thing to have a harder line view on immigration and another to be outright racist. I don't think I could be friends with someone who is racist. Each to their own, though! I use the word friends very lightly . There’s no one in my close circle of life like that apart from my mum and I can’t be arsed with her half the time . I’ve got very few proper friends. Plenty of people I get on alright with though wether it be work , pub(don’t drink now touch wood) or whatever wise. Some of those have them views. Edited July 5 by Rugeley Villa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul514 Posted July 5 Share Posted July 5 1 hour ago, sidcow said: OK. Aparrt from: Run the economy. Have a thought out industrial policy that doesn't purely support their mates. Invest more in the NHS and Social Care. Interact in a positive way with Europe. Allow Green energy to flourish. Invest in Green energy and benefit from it's profits via Great British Energy. Bring shit infested water companies back under public ownership. Bring a lot more transport under public ownership. I've a suspicion they actually will build a bit more of HS2 up to Crewe but probably not the full route. Act like grown ups. And And build more houses. What will Labour do for us. You are about to find out what they will do for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xela Posted July 5 Share Posted July 5 28 minutes ago, Davkaus said: I'm probably the weird one here but I've absolutely got mates that I see every couple of weeks and I have absolutely no idea which way they vote. We don't make even passing reference to current events, and if we mentioned a struggle getting a doctor's appointment, the response would probably be "ah, that sucks" Exactly the same with me. I've known them 20 years and travelled all over the world with them, and I don't think we have spent more than 5 mins discussing politics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidcow Posted July 5 VT Supporter Share Posted July 5 7 minutes ago, paul514 said: You are about to find out what they will do for you. Well great. I'm sure you will be just as vocal in praising them if they actually do some of these things and you won't just sit there pretending it's not happening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidcow Posted July 5 VT Supporter Share Posted July 5 29 minutes ago, wishywashy said: Not a single constituency where last season's Football League clubs were based went Conservative. Pretty wild. Is there some surprise that Forest Green didn't go Green? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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