mjmooney Posted July 4 VT Supporter Share Posted July 4 2 minutes ago, Wainy316 said: Do you not have boomers in your family? I'm a boomer. Every single one of my friends is vehemently anti-Tory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rodders Posted July 4 Share Posted July 4 2 minutes ago, Wainy316 said: Do you not have boomers in your family? Like Tom I minimise politics chat with family. OK I make exceptions for direct family. My mum has gone done the culture war rabbit bollocks and it always stops conversation dead when it comes up so I just move on. We can get on OK as long as we never speak about politics which means long holidays together are a deeply anxious time so i prefer not to spend more than a couple of days with them at a time. My tory dads birthday this weekend, so that'll be fun. Non direct family members though can completely piss off tho 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xann Posted July 4 Share Posted July 4 23 minutes ago, Rugeley Villa said: I will say he’s not the brightest... The stupid voted Brexit and let the Brexit PM in. How's that gone? It's alright to go deeper with Putin backed and hedge fund (Paul Marshall) owned Reform? Your kids will already be picking up the tab for the last 14 years of corruption and incompetence. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villarule123 Posted July 4 VT Supporter Share Posted July 4 Most people I've spoken to whether it's mates, work colleagues or Dads on the school pickup have said they're voting for Reform Solihull/Shirley are never voting Labour. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted July 4 Share Posted July 4 2 minutes ago, The Fun Factory said: Labour coud well get a simliar amount of votes tonight as back in 2017, but seems likely to get a landslide victory. Shows the first past the post system is a strange bird. I'm not a huge fan of it. However first time in decades that Sutton Coldfield has a chance of going back to Labour so today feels even more important to vote as choice might actually make a small difference for one. Another thing, wasn't the boundary changes for some seats and mergers supposed to help the Tories so shows what a colossal mess they've made of things since 2015 pretty much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wainy316 Posted July 4 Share Posted July 4 4 minutes ago, mjmooney said: I'm a boomer. Every single one of my friends is vehemently anti-Tory. Can you and your friends all become my Uncles please? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fightoffyour Posted July 4 VT Supporter Share Posted July 4 43 minutes ago, bickster said: If anyone wants my massive General Election spreadsheet including all the MRP data from the pollsters final ones its in the link in my sig. Phwoar. What's wrong with Google Sheets though? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted July 4 Moderator Share Posted July 4 1 minute ago, fightoffyour said: What's wrong with Google Sheets though? Nothing, I just use Excel at work In fact half of that is cribbed from a Google Sheet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ml1dch Posted July 4 Share Posted July 4 3 minutes ago, villarule123 said: Most people I've spoken to whether it's mates, work colleagues or Dads on the school pickup have said they're voting for Reform Solihull/Shirley are never voting Labour. Be interesting to see how Julian Knight standing as an independent brings down the Tory vote though. Three-way right wing split with him and Reform means Labour could plausibly squeeze through the middle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ml1dch Posted July 4 Share Posted July 4 7 minutes ago, Xann said: It's alright to go deeper with Putin backed and hedge fund (Paul Marshall) owned Reform? Something from recent political history that often gets forgotten / isn't widely known - The Orange Book which in 2004 put the Lib Dems on the trajectory which led to their current political position was written by Nick Clegg, Vince Cable, Ed Davey, David Laws and...Paul Marshall. Quite the political rollercoaster that knob's been on for the last twenty years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted July 4 Moderator Share Posted July 4 3 minutes ago, ml1dch said: Be interesting to see how Julian Knight standing as an independent brings down the Tory vote though. Three-way right wing split with him and Reform means Labour could plausibly squeeze through the middle. Its Reform that will let Labour in in Solihull methinks (if it happens) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted July 4 Moderator Share Posted July 4 Just now, ml1dch said: Something from recent political history that often gets forgotten / isn't widely known - The Orange Book which in 2004 put the Lib Dems on the trajectory which led to their current political position was written by Nick Clegg, Vince Cable, Ed Davey, David Laws and...Paul Marshall. Quite the political rollercoaster that knob's been on for the last twenty years. And it seems that Lembit Opik has followed him down the same path Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 4 Share Posted July 4 About to go buy snacks for tonight Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post mrbojangles Posted July 4 Popular Post Share Posted July 4 Had some great news this morning, managed to convince the wife that voting on who came across really well on I'm a celeb is not the way to do it and she didn't vote reform. She went for Lib Dems in the end and although not my party of choice I'm very happy that she didn't vote Reform. Driving up to Yorkshire tonight and expecting to arrive around midnight, watch the votes for a couple of hours and then wake up to a new party in charge, absolutely buzzing. 12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fun Factory Posted July 4 Share Posted July 4 13 minutes ago, bickster said: And it seems that Lembit Opik has followed him down the same path Yes for some strange reason, the libdems have had a few eurosceptics in their party down the years which I could never understand. It's a key part of their political identity. Paul Keetch was the same as well for them. DId they just enter the wrong door or something? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ender4 Posted July 4 Share Posted July 4 44 minutes ago, Wainy316 said: Do you not have boomers in your family? My dad has voted Labour for most of his life. Somehow this election he's been convinced that Tories are the only ones who can save us and that Labour will make things worse! No idea where these views have suddenly come from. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wainy316 Posted July 4 Share Posted July 4 2 minutes ago, ender4 said: My dad has voted Labour for most of his life. Somehow this election he's been convinced that Tories are the only ones who can save us and that Labour will make things worse! No idea where these views have suddenly come from. Did he have a lobotomy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ender4 Posted July 4 Share Posted July 4 1 minute ago, Wainy316 said: Did he have a lobotomy? He's gone full-on boomer. But he doesn't really use the internet and definitely no social media so it's weird how he's been convinced of abandoning a lifetime of voting Labour. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blandy Posted July 4 Moderator Share Posted July 4 Nipped to the polling station a bit ago. Outside was a neighbour and the Independent candidate, and an Independent local councillor I know, had a nice 15 minute chat between us. The Independent candidate was lovely. Went inside voted Labour, telling myself that it was the way to get the baby eaters out, but if she does win, or take loads of votes from the Tories, that’s good too. It was a tactical vote and not kind of first choice Needs must. Then went to the shop to buy a bottle of fizz for later on. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjmooney Posted July 4 VT Supporter Share Posted July 4 48 minutes ago, Wainy316 said: Can you and your friends all become my Uncles please? Gladly. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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