Davkaus Posted July 5 Share Posted July 5 I do take some comfort that none of Nigel's political grifts have ever established a decent central office or campaign strategy team. Their strategy has always just been "get Nigel on telly", they've got nothing else. It is the one reason I'm very nervous about the Tories getting desperate and welcoming him in Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xela Posted July 5 Share Posted July 5 Andrew Mitchell shithoused a Southgate style win. Was disappointed to see that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonyh29 Posted July 5 Share Posted July 5 where is the post match thread where we get to vote for our man of the match then ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AshVilla Posted July 5 Share Posted July 5 (edited) Given the huge mandate for labour with 400+ seats it's almost as if they have to be radical now and push the envelope a bit. They can't afford to play it safe people voted for change... Edited July 5 by AshVilla Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Rugeley Villa Posted July 5 Share Posted July 5 2 minutes ago, foreveryoung said: So the next f*** up/chapter begins. Time for change 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted July 5 Share Posted July 5 Garnier still won kidderminster beyond **** mental how the people of the town think that asshole represents them, probably more the reality that people vote for the party rather than the individual (but then even that is mad) almost certainly a case of keep labour out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xela Posted July 5 Share Posted July 5 45 minutes ago, Jonesy7211 said: To me this vote has been hugely important, I don't understand why the turnout is so low. Maybe people are jaded by politicians? Hopefully we'll see some positive change now there has a been a change of Government and it will reengage people 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StefanAVFC Posted July 5 VT Supporter Share Posted July 5 Just now, villa4europe said: Garnier still won kidderminster because he's worth it 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonyh29 Posted July 5 Share Posted July 5 1 minute ago, Davkaus said: I do take some comfort that none of Nigel's political grifts have ever established a decent central office or campaign strategy team. Their strategy has always just been "get Nigel on telly", they've got nothing else. It is the one reason I'm very nervous about the Tories getting desperate and welcoming him in I would think that Reform vote count will see Braverman as the next Tory leader in a bid to get those Reform votes back .. I guess their other option is to go down the more moderate route but you might see a swathe of defections to Reform for 2029 Mordaunt's speech last night suggested a leadership bid as well , but not sure how easy that will be for her without a seat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panto_Villan Posted July 5 Share Posted July 5 3 minutes ago, StefanAVFC said: Good to see the right have their own equivalent of all those left-wingers claiming Starmer is center-right. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xela Posted July 5 Share Posted July 5 19 minutes ago, Genie said: You do seem to be attracted to mad men who spout bollocks. Farage and Galloway are both excellent orators. If you sound convincing, you can fool a lot of people. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StefanAVFC Posted July 5 VT Supporter Share Posted July 5 2 minutes ago, Xela said: Farage and Galloway are both excellent orators. 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lichfield Dean Posted July 5 VT Supporter Share Posted July 5 Just why do people keep voting for that waste of space Andrew Mitchell? He does nothing, ever. So annoyed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonyh29 Posted July 5 Share Posted July 5 4 minutes ago, AshVilla said: Given the huge mandate for labour with 400+ seats it's almost as if they have to be radical now and push the envelope a bit. They can't afford to play it safe people voted for change... before the votes count I was thinking the same .. but I think they will have ambition beyond one and done ... The low turnout etc doesn't suggest a huge amount of love for labour beyond well at least you aren't Tory and Leave seats having fairly high Reform votes will keep them a little bit more in check , i.e they wont attempt to re-join so i think they will play it safe , all they ever said was in its the manifesto and fully costed so i think we kinda know wat to expect .. though of course we could then get the "manifesto is more of an aspiration than a promise " line they gave us previously 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sharkyvilla Posted July 5 Share Posted July 5 7 minutes ago, Xela said: Maybe people are jaded by politicians? Hopefully we'll see some positive change now there has a been a change of Government and it will reengage people The airports are very busy this week, there must have been a lot of people out the country yesterday. I don't know what kind of % it would add up to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted July 5 VT Supporter Share Posted July 5 Just now, Lichfield Dean said: Just why do people keep voting for that waste of space Andrew Mitchell? He does nothing, ever. So annoyed. I don’t think most people vote for an MP. They vote for a party Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisp65 Posted July 5 Share Posted July 5 11 minutes ago, tonyh29 said: where is the post match thread where we get to vote for our man of the match then ? In a night of hats, the baked bean balaclava was well represented. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mykeyb Posted July 5 Share Posted July 5 Didn't vote as the choice was similar to choosing been punched in the face or kicked in the nuts. No shock that Labour got in and it's exactly what the Tories deserved. You do wonder though what is coming down the line that made the Tories think July was the time for the election and are labour going to be labelled as responsible for what is to come. For the opposition the next choice of Leader has got to be right or they could be in real trouble. Braverman is NOT the right choice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GarethRDR Posted July 5 Share Posted July 5 Genuinely didn't think I'd be waking up in a Labour constituency for the first time ever. Maria Miller ran out of the building, apparently. Probably needs to check how much she's gonna be losing out on expense claims. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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