Mandy Lifeboats Posted July 5 Share Posted July 5 Just now, Jon said: From my calculations a reform tory coalition on these figures would come to less that 40%. About 37 to 38%. Labour/Lib dem/ Green comes in over 50%. So yes, PR please. A camel is a horse designed by a coalition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul514 Posted July 5 Share Posted July 5 Just now, Mandy Lifeboats said: It encourages small extremists to stand and distort government by holding the balance of power. Wouldn't that just be representing the views of the people who voted for who you consider extremists? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seat68 Posted July 5 Share Posted July 5 Is the Truss result in yet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mandy Lifeboats Posted July 5 Share Posted July 5 Just now, paul514 said: Wouldn't that just be representing the views of the people who voted for who you consider extremists? Yes. But I don’t want a system where the Nazi Party, Hamas UK or the National Front have any influence on government policy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villan95 Posted July 5 Share Posted July 5 Lab only on 35.2% of the vote 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul514 Posted July 5 Share Posted July 5 Just now, Mandy Lifeboats said: Yes. But I don’t want a system where the Nazi Party, Hamas UK or the National Front have any influence on government policy. Perhaps you should address the concerns of those parties then for the first and third example and stop importing the voters for the second example then 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seat68 Posted July 5 Share Posted July 5 1 minute ago, villan95 said: Lab only on 35.2% of the vote 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaoDeMings Posted July 5 Share Posted July 5 2 minutes ago, Mandy Lifeboats said: Yes. But I don’t want a system where the Nazi Party, Hamas UK or the National Front have any influence on government policy. There are plenty of proportional systems that prevent the most extreme and marginal views getting seats. Most of those who argue for electoral reform don’t want a purely proportional system Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mandy Lifeboats Posted July 5 Share Posted July 5 2 minutes ago, paul514 said: Perhaps you should address the concerns of those parties then for the first and third example and stop importing the voters for the second example then Address the concerns of the Nazi party? That worked out great for Germany didn't it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul514 Posted July 5 Share Posted July 5 Just now, Mandy Lifeboats said: Address the concerns of the Nazi party? That worked out great for Germany didn't it. Well you are the one who came up with the example, parties don't get any support unless there is issues they represent that people feel strongly about.... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mandy Lifeboats Posted July 5 Share Posted July 5 2 minutes ago, DaoDeMings said: There are plenty of proportional systems that prevent the most extreme and marginal views getting seats. Most of those who argue for electoral reform don’t want a purely proportional system How do you prevent the most extreme views if they happen to get 15% of the vote? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mandy Lifeboats Posted July 5 Share Posted July 5 1 minute ago, paul514 said: Well you are the one who came up with the example, parties don't get any support unless there is issues they represent that people feel strongly about.... Shall we take this to the correct thread? It's off topic for this one. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul514 Posted July 5 Share Posted July 5 Just now, Mandy Lifeboats said: How do you prevent the most extreme views if they happen to get 15% of the vote? Address the views of those people before it reaches that level of an issue..... Just an idea, perhaps governments should do what their people want........... revolutionary Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonLax Posted July 5 Share Posted July 5 9 minutes ago, Mandy Lifeboats said: Yes. But I don’t want a system where the Nazi Party, Hamas UK or the National Front have any influence on government policy. They already have a massive influence on government policies. How do you think Brexit came about? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mandy Lifeboats Posted July 5 Share Posted July 5 Just now, paul514 said: Address the views of those people before it reaches that level of an issue..... Just an idea, perhaps governments should do what their people want........... revolutionary Let's use the correct thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ml1dch Posted July 5 Share Posted July 5 Just now, paul514 said: Just an idea, perhaps governments should do what their people want........... revolutionary I imagine Starmer, with his enormous mandate will crack on with what the country has said that they want him to do. Farage, with his four seats can be ignored. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul514 Posted July 5 Share Posted July 5 Just now, LondonLax said: They already have a massive influence on government policies. How do you think Brexit came about? by having a massive support Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul514 Posted July 5 Share Posted July 5 Just now, ml1dch said: I imagine Starmer, with his enormous mandate will crack on with what the country has said that they want him to do. Farage, with his four seats can be ignored. and that is exactly why when the next election night comes the left will be screeching Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul514 Posted July 5 Share Posted July 5 Time to go now, only 11 hours until the football Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StefanAVFC Posted July 5 VT Supporter Share Posted July 5 Fabricant lost!!!!!! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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