limpid Posted July 10 Author Administrator Share Posted July 10 35 minutes ago, Mandy Lifeboats said: We reordered the name or everyone who we turned away because of no ID. How did you know their name in order to write it down? Or just the name that they claimed? How did you check that it was the same person someone gave that name later? I suspect there won't be any actionable data available about this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ml1dch Posted July 10 Share Posted July 10 That video that did the rounds during the election campaign of people following Ashworth and filming him, seems like the guy in the video is the chap arrested for the terrorism offences. Nice bunch of lads they've elected, it would seem. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mandy Lifeboats Posted July 10 Share Posted July 10 47 minutes ago, limpid said: How did you know their name in order to write it down? Or just the name that they claimed? How did you check that it was the same person someone gave that name later? I suspect there won't be any actionable data available about this. We checked the name they gave was actually on the register and marked it accordingly. When they returned we would see the note. None were different people on the second visit. But we would be relying upon our memory in this scenario. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wainy316 Posted July 10 Share Posted July 10 1 hour ago, ml1dch said: That video that did the rounds during the election campaign of people following Ashworth and filming him, seems like the guy in the video is the chap arrested for the terrorism offences. Nice bunch of lads they've elected, it would seem. We're gonna have to accept that there is a right wrong'un element amongst the supporters of some of these single issue independents that were elected/nearly elected. I'd like to think voting across such sectarian lines won't be as prominent once the conflict ends. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisp65 Posted July 10 Share Posted July 10 Of the 6 Cornish MP’s sworn in to Westminster today, all 6 took the oath in Cornish. All those demanding more integration of various communities will doubtless be thrilled by this and encourage those moving in to the area from outside to learn Cornish. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonesy7211 Posted July 10 Share Posted July 10 5 minutes ago, chrisp65 said: Of the 6 Cornish MP’s sworn in to Westminster today, all 6 took the oath in Cornish. All those demanding more integration of various communities will doubtless be thrilled by this and encourage those moving in to the area from outside to learn Cornish. Firstly, the humanitarian crisis in Palestine is a tragedy, and the sooner there's safety and prosperity for the people there the better. It's something that should have been in all manifestos. However, did the Cornish MP's campaign on a single issue for something we have relatively little impact on? It's not a fair comparison. Also, puts tinfoil hat on, Cornish nationalism and their ethnicity is an issue for Great Britain and NI, for which our government can provide an outcome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisp65 Posted July 10 Share Posted July 10 3 minutes ago, Jonesy7211 said: Firstly, the humanitarian crisis in Palestine is a tragedy, and the sooner there's safety and prosperity for the people there the better. It's something that should have been in all manifestos. However, did the Cornish MP's campaign on a single issue for something we have relatively little impact on? It's not a fair comparison. Also, puts tinfoil hat on, Cornish nationalism and their ethnicity is an issue for Great Britain and NI, for which our government can provide an outcome. Wut? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blandy Posted July 10 Moderator Share Posted July 10 1 hour ago, chrisp65 said: Of the 6 Cornish MP’s sworn in to Westminster today, all 6 took the oath in Cornish. All those demanding more integration of various communities will doubtless be thrilled by this and encourage those moving in to the area from outside to learn Cornish. Responding seriously to a satirical post, but (although a long time ago) when I lived in Cornwall there were almost no Cornish speakers at all, single figures of people. I remember one day listening to a BBC radio Cornwall report that (IIRC) there was one living person who still spoke it. Obviously and happily it's been revived and lives on as a language, but it's still very, very minority, so taking on board the point/analogy with, y'know, forins comin' over 'ere, I just thought I'd point that out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisp65 Posted July 10 Share Posted July 10 4 minutes ago, blandy said: Responding seriously to a satirical post, but (although a long time ago) when I lived in Cornwall there were almost no Cornish speakers at all, single figures of people. I remember one day listening to a BBC radio Cornwall report that (IIRC) there was one living person who still spoke it. Obviously and happily it's been revived and lives on as a language, but it's still very, very minority, so taking on board the point/analogy with, y'know, forins comin' over 'ere, I just thought I'd point that out. Numbers were low, they still are low. There was never one last native speaker. Gwenno comes from a first language Cornish family, her mum and her gran were not the sole surviving speaker. The point being, it would be outsiders moving in to the area that would cause that outsider language to dominate. So when people get itchy about brown people and their non integrating ways, or Turkish barbers, or Polski Skleps, or protests for Palestine, I guess they are equally protective of Scottish islands and Cornish seaside towns and Irish speaking villages under threat from outsiders trampling everything from the names of mountains to what language is taught in school. Unless of course, there is a lack of self awareness at play. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjmooney Posted July 10 VT Supporter Share Posted July 10 8 minutes ago, chrisp65 said: Unless of course, there is a lack of self awareness at play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blandy Posted July 11 Moderator Share Posted July 11 14 hours ago, chrisp65 said: Gwenno comes from a first language Cornish family, her mum and her gran were not the sole surviving speaker. No they weren’t, you’re quite right. They’re Welsh. It’s her Dad who’s Cornish, isn’t it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisp65 Posted July 11 Share Posted July 11 23 minutes ago, blandy said: No they weren’t, you’re quite right. They’re Welsh. It’s her Dad who’s Cornish, isn’t it? Hmm, I can’t say I’d put money on it either way, I just know that about a month or so ago I was at a talky thing where she said she grew up in a first language Cornish household and Cornish was also spoken to others outside the home so it wasn’t some arty or political ‘statement’ to sing or write in Cornish, it was what she would consider her family’s first language. Ani Glass was there also and constantly nattering away to someone in what I presume was Cornish, and she’s G’s sister so the story stacks up! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seat68 Posted July 12 Share Posted July 12 One of Galloways bellends is cosplaying as an MP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted July 12 Moderator Share Posted July 12 18 minutes ago, Seat68 said: One of Galloways bellends is cosplaying as an MP But he'd have won if it hadn’t been for those pesky postal votes He also does seem slightly unhinged. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mandy Lifeboats Posted July 12 Share Posted July 12 We were previously discussing the number of people who were prevented from voting because they had no photo ID. This is an extract from the debrief issued to our poll staff. Quote Staff at polling stations issued ballot papers to 34,684 voters, you only had to turn away 105 electors for having no ID (and 63 of those later returned and voted). Postal vote staff opened and processed 11,534 postal votes, and count staff verified and counted 46,218 ballot papers. So congratulations to all of you on a job very well done! 46, 218 votes - 42 prevented from voting, 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarryOnVilla Posted July 12 Share Posted July 12 On 10/07/2024 at 16:06, chrisp65 said: Of the 6 Cornish MP’s sworn in to Westminster today, all 6 took the oath in Cornish. All those demanding more integration of various communities will doubtless be thrilled by this and encourage those moving in to the area from outside to learn Cornish. That’s pretty cool. The Cornish language is pretty much a novelty, only spoken by the most Cornish old people. So hearing about this is a tad pleasing to know that some people still give a shit 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xann Posted July 12 Share Posted July 12 The signs in Asda were in Kernow last time I worked in Cornwall. That was 20 years ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisp65 Posted July 12 Share Posted July 12 1 hour ago, Mandy Lifeboats said: We were previously discussing the number of people who were prevented from voting because they had no photo ID. This is an extract from the debrief issued to our poll staff. 46, 218 votes - 42 prevented from voting, I think we can be generous and say that was 0.1% of the electorate. But I think the greater point is that there may well be a mass of people that wanted to vote, that would have voted, but lacked any recognised id and for whatever reason didn’t use the 12 months leading up to the election to gain id. I would suggest, those wanting to vote and prevented in this manner, must be vanishingly small as a %. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted July 12 Moderator Share Posted July 12 1 hour ago, chrisp65 said: I think we can be generous and say that was 0.1% of the electorate. But I think the greater point is that there may well be a mass of people that wanted to vote, that would have voted, but lacked any recognised id and for whatever reason didn’t use the 12 months leading up to the election to gain id. I would suggest, those wanting to vote and prevented in this manner, must be vanishingly small as a %. Whilst having no knowledge of the circumstances of this particular constituency, I also imagine there are wild differences dependent on average age, type of seat (rural / urban) and socio-economic level etc between constituencies 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisp65 Posted July 12 Share Posted July 12 Just now, bickster said: Whilst having no knowledge of the circumstances of this particular constituency, I also imagine there are wild differences dependent on average age, type of seat (rural / urban) and socio-economic level etc between constituencies I’d say there would be wild differences, but the range would be between dozens and low hundreds in the UK’s most motivated but least informed constituency (based on nothing but a feeling). I can’t believe this figure of hundreds of thousands of people stifled in their attempt to take part. Turnout was 59.9%, having the old system would not have turned that in to 68%. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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