Zatman Posted June 30 Share Posted June 30 44 minutes ago, DakotaVilla said: They haven’t really. I think we’ll look back on this deal in a few years, smile and light a cigar. No. They sent us some unknowns that could become duds for our starting midfield 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aston_Villan4 Posted June 30 Share Posted June 30 10 minutes ago, PaulMcGrath_5 said: What sort of time you heading to bed tonight? Sunday night. Holiday week for those of us in the US of A. I’m thinking 3am EST. Ideally I’ll get to bed by the time Villa announces the new band and have dreams of the new players scoring loads of goals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aston_Villan4 Posted June 30 Share Posted June 30 11 minutes ago, _AA_786 said: And then Barkley shortly after or all 3 in one? I’m hoping all 3. Just dump the announcement as one group. Hopefully something like this: 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulMcGrath_5 Posted June 30 Share Posted June 30 3 minutes ago, Aston_Villan4 said: Sunday night. Holiday week for those of us in the US of A. I’m thinking 3am EST. Ideally I’ll get to bed by the time Villa announces the new band and have dreams of the new players scoring loads of goals. Hope you sleep well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aston_Villan4 Posted June 30 Share Posted June 30 Just now, PaulMcGrath_5 said: Hope you sleep well. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carlitobrigante Posted June 30 Share Posted June 30 9 minutes ago, Zatman said: No. They sent us some unknowns that could become duds for our starting midfield That's a very negative outlook to have mate. Until we finish our summer business we don't know if he is signed to be a squad player or a first teamer. They could be duds, but they are also prospects coming from a huge club that could be excellent for us. Why not veer towards a positive outlook especially whilst so much looks uncertain as to how we are going to line up next season? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted June 30 Share Posted June 30 4 minutes ago, carlitobrigante said: That's a very negative outlook to have mate. Until we finish our summer business we don't know if he is signed to be a squad player or a first teamer. They could be duds, but they are also prospects coming from a huge club that could be excellent for us. Why not veer towards a positive outlook especially whilst so much looks uncertain as to how we are going to line up next season? Its more honest than negative. We are losing a player in his prime with 200 appearances and receiving 2 players with 30 appearances combined for Juventus We are getting the unknowns in this deal 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
macandally Posted June 30 Share Posted June 30 27 minutes ago, Zatman said: No. They sent us some unknowns that could become duds for our starting midfield Oh for gods sake get over yourself. Dougie was decent but by no means elite. We have a proper recruitment team in place, let the pieces come together instead of seeing the negative in everything 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
macandally Posted June 30 Share Posted June 30 11 minutes ago, Zatman said: Its more honest than negative. We are losing a player in his prime with 200 appearances and receiving 2 players with 30 appearances combined for Juventus We are getting the unknowns in this deal We are getting PSR balance with a whole post June window to look forward to. Patience! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DakotaVilla Posted June 30 Share Posted June 30 35 minutes ago, Zatman said: No. They sent us some unknowns that could become duds for our starting midfield If you think either of the players we have just signed are unknowns you clearly don’t know anything about football. Both are minimum 20m pound players and either under Emery could easily become far more valuable than that. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted June 30 Share Posted June 30 2 minutes ago, DakotaVilla said: If you think either of the players we have just signed are unknowns you clearly don’t know anything about football. Both are minimum 20m pound players and either under Emery could easily become far more valuable than that. combined have started 8 Serie A games for Juventus who are not the Juventus of old They might come good but is a lot more chance Juve got better end of the deal since signing a Brazilian international in his prime 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Leeroy Posted June 30 Share Posted June 30 2 minutes ago, DakotaVilla said: If you think either of the players we have just signed are unknowns you clearly don’t know anything about football. Both are minimum 20m pound players and either under Emery could easily become far more valuable than that. Bentancur went for £20m (maybe even slightly less) and was a regular in the Juventus midfield for several seasons and a starter for Uruguay. Barrenechea has played about 3 games for them in his entire career and was sent out on loan to a team that got relegated. I wouldn't value him close to £20m at all. I wouldn't value Iling Jr at that either. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DakotaVilla Posted June 30 Share Posted June 30 6 minutes ago, Leeroy said: Bentancur went for £20m (maybe even slightly less) and was a regular in the Juventus midfield for several seasons and a starter for Uruguay. Barrenechea has played about 3 games for them in his entire career and was sent out on loan to a team that got relegated. I wouldn't value him close to £20m at all. I wouldn't value Iling Jr at that either. If Kellyman is worth 19m then both juve players that we just signed are rated significantly more highly than him. Some people obviously think we still have idiots in charge of the club. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thabucks Posted June 30 Share Posted June 30 (edited) 11 minutes ago, Leeroy said: Bentancur went for £20m (maybe even slightly less) and was a regular in the Juventus midfield for several seasons and a starter for Uruguay. Barrenechea has played about 3 games for them in his entire career and was sent out on loan to a team that got relegated. I wouldn't value him close to £20m at all. I wouldn't value Iling Jr at that either. You should message Monchi and co and tell them they’ve been robbed - i mean we’re all entitled to an opinion so you may be proved right - or I think based on the fact the professionals think they’re players who will fit our system and develop I think I’ll side with them Edited June 30 by thabucks 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarryOnVilla Posted June 30 Share Posted June 30 Can you guys stop bickering and actually watch some games Barrenechea played in please Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post PaulMcGrath_5 Posted June 30 Popular Post Share Posted June 30 Always amazes me how so so so many of you slipped through the cracks in the football scouting and recruitment world! Meanwhile that idiot Monchi and Emery get jobs. Shocking. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leeroy Posted June 30 Share Posted June 30 7 minutes ago, DakotaVilla said: If Kellyman is worth 19m then both juve players that we just signed are rated significantly more highly than him. Some people obviously think we still have idiots in charge of the club. Kellyman clearly isn't worth £19m either. Chelsea fans are questioning that too and don't think he'll ever play a game for them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leeroy Posted June 30 Share Posted June 30 5 minutes ago, thabucks said: You should message Monchi and co and tell them they’ve been robbed - i mean we’re all entitled to an opinion so you may be proved right - or I think based on the fact the professionals think they’re players who will fit our system and develop I think I’ll side with them I've no idea about Monchi's credentials except he apparently did really well at Sevilla and really badly at Roma. So far I'm not quite convinced, probably because of deals like this one. It probably isn't about what they want anyway - it is probably the fact that because of PSR we were desperate and when you're desperate you do foolish things. I'm fairly sure Monchi and Emery would not have agreed to this deal if they had a choice in the matter. I sure as hell know Unai wouldn't have, Luiz was a key player for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarryOnVilla Posted June 30 Share Posted June 30 1 minute ago, Leeroy said: I've no idea about Monchi's credentials except he apparently did really well at Sevilla and really badly at Roma. So far I'm not quite convinced, probably because of deals like this one. It probably isn't about what they want anyway - it is probably the fact that because of PSR we were desperate and when you're desperate you do foolish things. I'm fairly sure Monchi and Emery would not have agreed to this deal if they had a choice in the matter. I sure as hell know Unai wouldn't have, Luiz was a key player for him. Have you seen Barrenechea play a game? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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