Czarnikjak Posted June 20 Share Posted June 20 Just now, lexicon said: Absolutely not. He's a high-potential youngster in a position we badly need back-up in. I highly doubt we would be making enquiries for this guy and Iling Junior if Juventus weren't taking Luiz from us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duke313 Posted June 20 Share Posted June 20 2 minutes ago, Czarnikjak said: I highly doubt we would be making enquiries for this guy and Iling Junior if Juventus weren't taking Luiz from us. Why not? Rogers, Nedjelkovic, Sousa and now Iling-Junior and Barrenechea. Seems like we're targeting undervalued young players with high ceilings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonLax Posted June 20 Share Posted June 20 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Indigo said: And the pendulum swings back towards it being Juve that are getting mugged off!! That’s ridiculous. They can choose who they offer to us. They are probably annoyed that they are now looking like losing McKennie on a free when they thought they had a buyer lined up for him. Edited June 20 by LondonLax 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GarethRDR Posted June 20 Share Posted June 20 Just now, duke313 said: Seems like we're targeting undervalued young players with high ceilings. Which is precisely why I'm calling BS on this whole deal. I know for a fact that Barrenechea lives in a bungalow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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lexicon Posted June 20 Share Posted June 20 9 minutes ago, Czarnikjak said: I highly doubt we would be making enquiries for this guy and Iling Junior if Juventus weren't taking Luiz from us. Hard to say. We've been given lemons with PSR and have had to make lemonade - 2 highly rated youngsters and 25m isn't bad, really. Ideally we wouldn't be losing Luiz but that's the situation we're in. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Czarnikjak Posted June 20 Share Posted June 20 3 minutes ago, duke313 said: Why not? Rogers, Nedjelkovic, Sousa and now Iling-Junior and Barrenechea. Seems like we're targeting undervalued young players with high ceilings. It just seems improbable we really really want these 2 players (and they seems to be changing every day as well ) BTW, this guy is not really a blossoming youngster anymore, he is 23...never had a sniff at getting into Juve squad, and played well in relegated side for 1 season. Is his potential better than Irogbunam? Maybe, I hope so. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaoDeMings Posted June 20 Share Posted June 20 5 minutes ago, Pongo Waring said: Why are they letting it happen if they don’t want to lose him? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lexicon Posted June 20 Share Posted June 20 Just now, DaoDeMings said: Why are they letting it happen if they don’t want to lose him? Because they want Luiz. They don't hold ALL the cards in these negotiations tbf. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarryOnVilla Posted June 20 Share Posted June 20 3 minutes ago, lexicon said: Hard to say. We've been given lemons with PSR and have had to make lemonade - 2 highly rated youngsters and 25m isn't bad, really. Ideally we wouldn't be losing Luiz but that's the situation we're in. I genuinely think Lange and Purslow wouldn’t have been nowhere near this crafty in this situation. They’d just sold Ollie Watkins for 100m and replaced him Danny ings out of nowhere again. And hope the “out of nowhere” bit would distract us from it being a terrible deal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted June 20 Share Posted June 20 4 minutes ago, DaoDeMings said: Why are they letting it happen if they don’t want to lose him? Exactly thats the most laughable load of nonsense ive seen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarryOnVilla Posted June 20 Share Posted June 20 5 minutes ago, DaoDeMings said: Why are they letting it happen if they don’t want to lose him? Have you not seen seen Doug’s smile? Well worth a lot of sacrifices to see Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PieFacE Posted June 20 VT Supporter Share Posted June 20 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Demitri_C said: Exactly thats the most laughable load of nonsense ive seen It's possible to be annoyed about losing a player whilst doing so if you think it's in the best interest of the club. Probably similar to how we're annoyed about having to let Luiz go. Edited June 20 by PieFacE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted June 20 Share Posted June 20 1 minute ago, PieFacE said: It's possible to be annoyed about losing a player whilst doing so if you think it's in the best interest of the club. Probably similar to how we're annoyed about having to let Luiz go. But then they would not include or give us the option of signing him like they did with soule? Our reason ia more to do with FFP thats why most are annoyed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PieFacE Posted June 20 VT Supporter Share Posted June 20 1 minute ago, Demitri_C said: But then they would not include or give us the option of signing him like they did with soule? Our reason ia more to do with FFP thats why most are annoyed Guess it depends if we're insisting on it and ultimately they want Luiz more than they want to keep this guy. Who knows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duke313 Posted June 20 Share Posted June 20 17 minutes ago, DaoDeMings said: Why are they letting it happen if they don’t want to lose him? I assume THEY in this context are the fans, who have no control who the club sells or buys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisvilla4 Posted June 20 Share Posted June 20 32 minutes ago, Pongo Waring said: Well, if they're annoyed he must be good. I'd be annoyed if they took Chambers from us. 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nigel Posted June 20 VT Supporter Share Posted June 20 34 minutes ago, Pongo Waring said: Mr agresti must know a lot of people at juventus! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodders0223 Posted June 20 Share Posted June 20 1 hour ago, lexicon said: I'm not arguing against that tbf - the point I was trying to make was that the truth lies in the middle rather than on the hyperobolic extemes. I'm not being hyperbolic, I've just read that he had a great comeback season and he's adaptable to a variety of roles. Sounds decent to me, I'm no expert. Though on here, there's posters ready to chuck themselves out the window on the news of him signing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post useless Posted June 20 Popular Post Share Posted June 20 People seem to think Juventus have all the aces in this deal, they don't becaue they have financial difficulties of their own, which is why they can't afford to just outright buy Luiz - although initially the deal was £35m plus McKennie, but we wanted Iling as we've been tracking him for a while They aren't giving us their rejects, they wanted to keep McKennie, hence offering him a new deal, it's equally believable that they would have wanted to keep Barrenechea, many were tipping him to be their backup No.6 next season The point is they're having to make sacrifices just like we're having to, we make the greater sacrifice, but it's not as if Juve are in a position where they can give us any old player they don't want Also we aren't getting Soule or Chiesa as part of the exchange becaue they're too expensive for this particular deal, that's like Chelsea fans asking for Matinez or Watkins as part of the Maatsen deal 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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