Xela Posted August 30 Share Posted August 30 2 hours ago, ozvilla28 said: Puzzling loaning him out considering no one coming in and Kamara still in recovery. Barkley will be the cover Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaParkAvenue Posted August 30 Share Posted August 30 Just now, Xela said: Barkley will be the cover At least in midfield we have cover. Not worried there personally. Defence is another and sadder story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post AntrimBlack Posted August 30 Popular Post Share Posted August 30 Well, next time they sell one of our best players to meet PSR demands, let's hope they make a better fist of it than the Luiz `deal'. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
avfc1982am Posted August 30 Share Posted August 30 A loan with an option to buy is being reported. Football is just becoming ridiculous if this is true. Sign players, get them wearing the shirt during presentations like they'll be part of the future only to then get rid without playing a game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted August 30 Share Posted August 30 (edited) 4 hours ago, Tom13 said: It is happening though Sorry to hear that…..I guess things in this market change, very quickly. Edited August 30 by TRO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xela Posted August 30 Share Posted August 30 15 minutes ago, AntrimBlack said: Well, next time they sell one of our best players to meet PSR demands, let's hope they make a better fist of it than the Luiz `deal'. SIJ and Enzo could be worth double next year. That was the attraction of the deal i guess? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rightdm00 Posted August 30 Share Posted August 30 9 minutes ago, avfc1982am said: A loan with an option to buy is being reported. Football is just becoming ridiculous if this is true. Sign players, get them wearing the shirt during presentations like they'll be part of the future only to then get rid without playing a game. Chelsea and Man City have been doing it for years. Hell Man City just sold a youth player back to us for a small profit and a sell on clause. All revenue counts the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
avfc1982am Posted August 30 Share Posted August 30 1 minute ago, Rightdm00 said: Chelsea and Man City have been doing it for years. Hell Man City just sold a youth player back to us for a small profit and a sell on clause. All revenue counts the same. I understand that but it's just becoming a moneyball business. Literally buying players or taking players in one door to send out the other. I think it's becoming ridiculous and shouldn't be what the game is about but it's being forced on clubs to act in this manner. If you look across the forum at most of the conversations recently I'd gather a large percentage is directly regarding money and not about the game itself. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillanousOne Posted August 30 Share Posted August 30 He looked really promising during the preseason He is the only other player we have got fit who is more in the mould of a holding/defensive midfielder especially if Donk goes. Bogarde is a bit raw to trust with that role. Barkley shouldn't play that role, McGinn shouldn't play that role. Kamara hopefully will be back soon, but there is a chance it could take a lot longer for him to get back his form and match sharpness I would have thought Enzo would be a good option off the bench and for cup games. It would have been nice that the loan was done in order to bring someone else in, even if it was a defender. I hope there is a recall option in Jan and no buy option. All opinions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarryOnVilla Posted August 30 Share Posted August 30 (edited) I also find it strange to let him go on loan. We have squad space for him too. Yet I do see he needs that top level game time. With our midfield options and Kamara coming back, it’s slim pickings for Enzo. So that in mind, the loan makes senses, and to a Valencia, that’s a bloody great club too It works out great for him, and hopefully for us next season. Signing a sexy Argentinian DM from Valencia we’d be pretty excited. Next season we’ll be getting him for free. I hope he becomes a star out there. Edited August 30 by CarryOnVilla 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skarroki Posted August 30 Share Posted August 30 3 hours ago, CarryOnVilla said: I also find it strange to let him go on loan. We have squad space for him too. Yet I do see he needs that top level game time. With our midfield options and Kamara coming back, it’s slim pickings for Enzo. So that in mind, the loan makes senses, and to a Valencia, that’s a bloody great club too It works out great for him, and hopefully for us next season. Signing a sexy Argentinian DM from Valencia we’d be pretty excited. Next season we’ll be getting him for free. I hope he becomes a star out there. Two things I'm more excited by signing a DM from Juventus than Valencia because one is known for amazing midfielders and the other is known to be a basket case with a volatile owner You say he needs top level game time but he's played 3,000 minutes in Serie A already. There's only so much you can play someone at the top level on loan before you go "he's not good enough for us" and I think if it was an academy player like Archer, you make that call before 24. So basically I'm saying the opposite. I wouldn't be excited signing a 24 year old midfielder from Valencia next summer, I'd be thinking "he's definitely not good enough to get minutes without an injury crisis, what are we signing him for". Iling Junior I think will be important for us in future seasons. Barrenechea I'm convinced will never pull on a Villa shirt again. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zab6359 Posted August 30 Share Posted August 30 Hopefully he has a decent season and we make some money on him next summer, don’t believe he was ever wanted by Unai or ever part of his plans. This one is purely for PSR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonLax Posted August 31 Share Posted August 31 10 hours ago, AntrimBlack said: Well, next time they sell one of our best players to meet PSR demands, let's hope they make a better fist of it than the Luiz `deal'. We were over a barrel in June and had to take whatever we were offered. The Grealish money had dropped out of the 3 year cycle in the accounts but we had spent big in the push for Champions League. I feel like the Diaby sale will give us more headroom to negotiate next summer and not leave us in such a desperate position. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CVByrne Posted August 31 Share Posted August 31 Valencia were fighting for Europe last season, just had a bad final 5 results and ended 9th. It's a good team to have joined and hopefully he'll progress after his breakthrough season last season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eholm Posted August 31 Share Posted August 31 14 hours ago, VillanousOne said: Terms like 'will' 'wouldn't' etc are statements not opinions. In my opinion. Really?? It’s a fan’s forum which is built on and consists of nothing BUT opinions - that’s the point; to discuss a whole range of differing opinions. If we all had to preface EVERY post with confirmation that it was an opinion, the server would probably reach capacity in a few days . If you rightly assume that every post is an opinion and not a fact it will make your life a little bit easier. If you want confirmed statements then log onto the Villa website….. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaAlex Posted August 31 Share Posted August 31 Interesting article I saw this morning. His sister just started university in Valencia a few weeks ago and his parents already moved there, so he will be with all his family apart from his brother who plays football still in Italy. It could be possible he's a hit and we end up selling him, but then Valencia are owned by Peter Lim so the likelihood of us getting any money off them is very low. So it's probably a very opportunistic loan for him to do well in an environment which will hopefully quite settled for him, especially given he also speaks Spanish. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich192 Posted August 31 Share Posted August 31 (edited) 10 hours ago, skarroki said: Two things I'm more excited by signing a DM from Juventus than Valencia because one is known for amazing midfielders and the other is known to be a basket case with a volatile owner You say he needs top level game time but he's played 3,000 minutes in Serie A already. There's only so much you can play someone at the top level on loan before you go "he's not good enough for us" and I think if it was an academy player like Archer, you make that call before 24. So basically I'm saying the opposite. I wouldn't be excited signing a 24 year old midfielder from Valencia next summer, I'd be thinking "he's definitely not good enough to get minutes without an injury crisis, what are we signing him for". Iling Junior I think will be important for us in future seasons. Barrenechea I'm convinced will never pull on a Villa shirt again. Some players peak a little later. Vardy was about to sign for Halifax Town at the same age, for example. It’s becoming increasingly difficult for centre halves and defensive midfielders to be trusted at a young age, so they tend to start playing regularly slightly later. Edited August 31 by Rich192 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonLax Posted August 31 Share Posted August 31 On the bench tonight against Villarreal 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pongo Waring Posted August 31 Author Share Posted August 31 31 minutes ago, LondonLax said: On the bench tonight against Villarreal Time to scout alex baena Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulMcGrath_5 Posted August 31 Share Posted August 31 He picked Valencia for his loan as his sister goes to university there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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