VillaChris Posted July 14 Share Posted July 14 (edited) 5 minutes ago, lapal_fan said: This isn't even a brilliant Spanish team lol. Loads of fodder from the likes of the mighty Real Sociedad, Atheltico Bilbao, Real Betis and Al Nassr lol. They're just coached well and play progressive football. Man for man we have better options (bar Rodri) and we play conservative football and aren't coached well. Real Sociedad made last 16 of CL this season and have been consistent top 6 challengers last 3-4 years. Bilbao also had top 6 season and won the cup. Bit like dismissing Ollie and Konsa because they haven't played in the CL yet. Or the four Palace players in the squad. Laporte was a top prem CB for many years before he took the Saudi payday. Spain will be very scary again if a top CF emerges in next year or two. For all their World class midfield between 2008-12 they still need Villa and Torres to finish off chances and Morata is an obvious downgrade. Edited July 14 by VillaChris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom13 Posted July 14 Share Posted July 14 Is it me or is Declan Rice insanely limited? Showed up big time VS that Spain midfield. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wainy316 Posted July 14 Share Posted July 14 We more than match Spain man for man. Get a decent manager in! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomav84 Posted July 14 VT Supporter Share Posted July 14 9 minutes ago, rodders0223 said: He should have done the decent thing and declared himself injured tbfh because he clearly, absolutely couldn't even sprint or jump today. 100%. wanted to see if he could get a moment of glory fall to his feet. if he was any sort of captain he'd have pulled out of the tournament Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidcow Posted July 14 VT Supporter Share Posted July 14 5 minutes ago, Xela said: Well, we shouldn't be relying on him to be a playmaker IMO. Based on saves, I thought he was ok. Literally no team in any kind of quality football has their keeper constantly punt the ball long. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreveryoung Posted July 14 Share Posted July 14 2 minutes ago, romavillan said: He's alright as a shot stopper and no-one is asking him to be a playmaker, just give it to feet to someone who can get us going forwards and keep the ball. Says it all really, when Southgate couldn't even play the keeper to his strengths. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodders0223 Posted July 14 Share Posted July 14 1 minute ago, Tom13 said: Is it me or is Declan Rice insanely limited? Showed up big time VS that Spain midfield. Stiff. Can't play on the half turn. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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sheepyvillian Posted July 14 Share Posted July 14 2 minutes ago, romavillan said: He's alright as a shot stopper and no-one is asking him to be a playmaker, just give it to feet to someone who can get us going forwards and keep the ball. Time and time again. Like a blue arse fly. Channelling his inner Dave Beasent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avfc96 Posted July 14 Share Posted July 14 Just now, Tom13 said: Is it me or is Declan Rice insanely limited? Showed up big time VS that Spain midfield. He's not the £100 million player the media hype him up as, but he was left to practically do it all on his tonight. Mainoo had a shocker, was physically bullied by the Spanish and when he did get the ball spent 10 seconds too late deciding what to do with it and was positionally all over the shop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheepyvillian Posted July 14 Share Posted July 14 1 minute ago, sidcow said: Literally no team in any kind of quality football has their keeper constantly punt the ball long. Exactly. I thought we were long past that kind of football. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted July 14 Share Posted July 14 Just now, sidcow said: Literally no team in any kind of quality football has their keeper constantly punt the ball long. Simon did it a few times during the match. Difference was one of the midfielders immediately realised the area he was going to put it into (the centre circle) and got into position to pick up the ball (under little pressure). Pickford's kicks were just hit and hope that Bellingham or Toney in his brief moments would just flick something on. A very 90s/2000s style of play that English Football just can't seem to rid itself of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Steve Posted July 14 Share Posted July 14 Spain won the cup without Pedri btw. The future is very bright - still got the likes of Veiga, Pablo Torre, Fermin Lopez and one of the best bright names in the U21s, Assane Diao. That's just the attacking and midfield options. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted July 14 Share Posted July 14 13 minutes ago, ROTTERDAM1982 said: I did put AND v4e Again , apart from Palmer, who liveed up to the hype? Yeah you look at how both teams got here England go away with Watkins goal (stretch) and Palmer should have played more, Saka was ok times Spain go away with 16 year yamal is the best kid in the world and olmo plays for any team he wants Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted July 14 Share Posted July 14 8 minutes ago, VillaChris said: Rice does a solid job in club football where it's more box to box but yeah when he's pressed he just hasn't got the nimbleness in his balance to dribble away with the ball and just boots it away under pressure. I do think Mainoo has so this will be the annual conundrum, got for physical athlete as DM or someone smaller but more technically proficient. Even with his decent season for Arsenal no one with a sane mind thinks he's anywhere near Rodri's level. Some UK pundits/morons called him the bargain of the season He was massively exposed in Champions League when Goretzka dominated him and he is not welcome at Bayern Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheepyvillian Posted July 14 Share Posted July 14 7 minutes ago, sidcow said: This. People going on about how good they are. I'd have us man to man far superior. Certainly not the defenders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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villa4europe Posted July 14 Share Posted July 14 11 minutes ago, lapal_fan said: This isn't even a brilliant Spanish team lol. Loads of fodder from the likes of the mighty Real Sociedad, Atheltico Bilbao, Real Betis and Al Nassr lol. They're just coached well and play progressive football. Man for man we have better options (bar Rodri) and we play conservative football and aren't coached well. I think that's harsh Olmo, yamal and Williams are probably the best footballers in the tournament, they're a level above every other team and deserve this 100% Classic team, best of all time definitely not but head and shoulders above everyone else 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted July 14 Share Posted July 14 1 minute ago, The_Steve said: Spain won the cup without Pedri btw. The future is very bright - still got the likes of Veiga, Pablo Torre, Fermin Lopez and one of the best bright names in the U21s, Assane Diao. That's just the attacking and midfield options. Baena not really used much in this tournament either. The two quick wide lads has been the gamechanger though. They'd have probably got out in last 16/Quarters if they'd had Ferran Torres/Oryazabal as wide options with Morata. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted July 14 Share Posted July 14 Just watching ITV + 1, apparently Trippier and Gallagher were coming on just before Spain scored their second. Southgate to a tee. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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