penguin Posted July 14 Share Posted July 14 1 minute ago, R.Bear said: Two finals (one at home) against beatable opposition, you wonder if England will ever get better chances. The luck of the draw we've had in recent years is a generational event I fear. Although if you are good enough it doesn't matter, look at Spains run to lift this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UpTheVilla26 Posted July 14 Share Posted July 14 Kane should be ashamed of his performance tonight. That was pathetic. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmygreaves Posted July 14 Share Posted July 14 1 minute ago, Xela said: I wouldn't say its arrogance, I just think its lack of a top quality manager/coach. An average quality manager would do.... Look at Spain. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted July 14 Share Posted July 14 They better not disgrace north london and name our station the gareth southgate again. The guys no hero. More a negative number zero. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreveryoung Posted July 14 Share Posted July 14 4 minutes ago, GingerCollins29 said: All of these nations have big players, difference is England's don't turn up, mostly because they are so arrogant and think these wins will just drop into their laps Ahhh I see. So nothing to do with the defensive coach who you wouldn't want anywhere near Villa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted July 14 Share Posted July 14 3 minutes ago, Xela said: I wouldn't say its arrogance, I just think its lack of a top quality manager/coach. 100% this is on the manager Next week we've got every man and his dog saying these players aren't good enough, they are - and don't get me wrong Spain have class players too - but so many underperformers here it's got to be the manager, even if it boils down to foden wasn't good enough, he wasn't good enough 6 games ago and he still starts, any manager worth his salt mixes it up Did we end the tournament with least players used? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wurzel Posted July 14 Share Posted July 14 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ROTTERDAM1982 Posted July 14 Share Posted July 14 4 minutes ago, Xela said: I wouldn't say its arrogance, I just think its lack of a top quality manager/coach. And overrated by the press. Apart from Palmer, i'm struggling to think of an England player who really impressed me throughout the tournament. The players are there, Bellingham, Foden, Palmer, Eze, Saka all have potential to be top quality 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted July 14 Share Posted July 14 How shit was walker for that 1st goal? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomC Posted July 14 Share Posted July 14 England couldn't handle the press. It seemed like their best attacks came off goal kicks or other situations where Spain wasn't pressing. I'd rather put Villa's backline out there to get around that press. Of course, it may be telling that the leader of our backline last year was Spanish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avfc96 Posted July 14 Share Posted July 14 (edited) 3 minutes ago, ROTTERDAM1982 said: And overrated by the press. Apart from Palmer, i'm struggling to think of an England player who really impressed me throughout the tournament. The players are there, Bellingham, Foden, Palmer, Eze, Saka all have potential to be top quality I think Guehi was very good throughout the tournament. Edited July 14 by Avfc96 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
romavillan Posted July 14 VT Supporter Share Posted July 14 25 minutes ago, villa89 said: He'll be recreating it over and over again for the next few seasons. Good and all as he is, his first touch isn't exactly elite. Knackers, two touch goal in the last game showed an incredible first touch. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sharkyvilla Posted July 14 Share Posted July 14 7 minutes ago, UpTheVilla26 said: Kane should be ashamed of his performance tonight. That was pathetic. Is he completely unable to sprint even 10 yards these days? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted July 14 Share Posted July 14 3 minutes ago, ROTTERDAM1982 said: And overrated by the press. Apart from Palmer, i'm struggling to think of an England player who really impressed me throughout the tournament. The players are there, Bellingham, Foden, Palmer, Eze, Saka all have potential to be top quality And it can't be the manager and shit tactics? After what you've just watched in the last month? It's the players being overrated? Not a chance 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
switters Posted July 14 Share Posted July 14 10 minutes ago, Demitri_C said: I genuinely believe if he brings ollie and palmer straight on 45 mins 2nd half we win that. Yeah. it felt the same last time with Grealish. Just feel like once again we didn't play all the cards we had. and the ones we did play, were too late. Southgate done well to get us to finals, whatever we think of him, no-one's done that for decades. But he's just not proactive enough and it cost us in these games. Fact is, we may not get these chances again for decades. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreveryoung Posted July 14 Share Posted July 14 3 minutes ago, ROTTERDAM1982 said: And overrated by the press. Apart from Palmer, i'm struggling to think of an England player who really impressed me throughout the tournament. The players are there, Bellingham, Foden, Palmer, Eze, Saka all have potential to be top quality They need to allow them to play how they play at their clubs. You'll be at least half way thete then! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ROTTERDAM1982 Posted July 14 Share Posted July 14 Just now, Avfc96 said: I think Guess was very good throughout the tournament. Guehi? Not good on the ball, too negative on the ball, a bit too lightweight for me. I wouldn't have him down VP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarryOnVilla Posted July 14 Share Posted July 14 (edited) All this is on Southgate. England lost this on tactics. The tactics were poor all tournament. England barely controlled any of the games, barely had answers to teams that attack well, barely had any answers to teams that defend well. Barely any shots all tournament, a lot less on target. Despite the attacking talent at England’s disposal. England shat them selves all the way to the final. Getting through each round with incredible luck and individual brilliance. Southgate is a fraud. Always has been and most of his tournament success was due to fortunate draws, poor teams, or big countries that going through transitional periods or having a poor generation Best English squad in a long time, let down by antiquated conservative tactics and poor decision making by a manager who’s only real success was to relegate Middlesbrough. Oh well, another final. Well done. Raise Sir Garath Edited July 14 by CarryOnVilla 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brumstopdogs Posted July 14 Share Posted July 14 7 minutes ago, UpTheVilla26 said: Kane should be ashamed of his performance tonight. That was pathetic. Something wasn't right with him all tournament and he just looked so crap and when your captain is off form / doesn't move it's obviously a massive problem. Should have been dropped a lot earlier but played just because he is Harry Kane. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hank Scorpio Posted July 14 Share Posted July 14 Imagine Emery managing this England side. Same result? Nah. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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