Stevo985 Posted July 11 VT Supporter Share Posted July 11 9 hours ago, Wainy316 said: Spain have performed better in their tournament but man for man I’d say England are the better side. Yes, Cucurella plays for them. Just be interesting to see how we’re managed. Cucurella has been abaoslutely excellent this tournament. One of their best players Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonesy7211 Posted July 11 Share Posted July 11 I can't believe we've made it this far. We've been lucky with some of the moments we've had, and I've been really critical of the players and the manager. But damn it, I find myself daring to believe. I love football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobzy Posted July 11 Share Posted July 11 23 minutes ago, Stevo985 said: Agreed. I think Shaw was given so long because he's desperate to get him up to speed for the final. Kane has been absolutely awful all tournament, but unless he's so injured he can't play, he'll start. England would be far better without him at the moment, but he's the first name on the teamsheet There’s just not a chance the England captain is being dropped for a major tournament final. Not a chance! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lapal_fan Posted July 11 Share Posted July 11 3-0 Spain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonyh29 Posted July 11 Share Posted July 11 My dislike of Southgate's brand of football and his instance on playing Mount far too much in the last Euros , seeing McGuire and Henderson on the team sheet baring death ,4 right backs in every game , meant I didn't watch England in the World cup and haven't watched them so far in the Euros I'll feel a bit of hypocrite if I now tune in to watch the final .. equally having never seen England win anything in my life time ,I'll feel a bit of chump if I don't maybe I can pretend I like watch the Spanish team play and get around it that way ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rubberman Posted July 11 Share Posted July 11 Shaw definitely to start - play him till he's knackered - the balance is so much better. Sadly Kane will start too. The obvious thing to do is start with Ollie, switch to Toney if not winning with 15 to go for a more route 1 option and bring on Kane for pens after cheerleading from the bench. But that won't happen, so we'll have to have him stink out the place for 80 minutes instead before Gareth flips a coin for which of Watkins and Toney comes on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulC Posted July 11 Share Posted July 11 2 hours ago, Zatman said: He is one player. In that case Mainoo, Pickford, Guehi or Trippier wouldnt get near the Spain squad Maybe not but Mainoo is a really good player and hes just 19 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulC Posted July 11 Share Posted July 11 37 minutes ago, tonyh29 said: My dislike of Southgate's brand of football and his instance on playing Mount far too much in the last Euros , seeing McGuire and Henderson on the team sheet baring death ,4 right backs in every game , meant I didn't watch England in the World cup and haven't watched them so far in the Euros I'll feel a bit of hypocrite if I now tune in to watch the final .. equally having never seen England win anything in my life time ,I'll feel a bit of chump if I don't maybe I can pretend I like watch the Spanish team play and get around it that way ... You're overthinking things. Just watch it and support England even if you don't like the manager. Who knows we may not reach another final for 30 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted July 11 VT Supporter Share Posted July 11 1 hour ago, bobzy said: There’s just not a chance the England captain is being dropped for a major tournament final. Not a chance! Yep I agree He needs to be hooked by the 60th minute if he performs like he has all tournament though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted July 11 VT Supporter Share Posted July 11 55 minutes ago, tonyh29 said: My dislike of Southgate's brand of football and his instance on playing Mount far too much in the last Euros , seeing McGuire and Henderson on the team sheet baring death ,4 right backs in every game , meant I didn't watch England in the World cup and haven't watched them so far in the Euros I'll feel a bit of hypocrite if I now tune in to watch the final .. equally having never seen England win anything in my life time ,I'll feel a bit of chump if I don't maybe I can pretend I like watch the Spanish team play and get around it that way ... Just forget about your opinion of the manager and enjoy it, would be my advice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted July 11 Share Posted July 11 19 minutes ago, PaulC said: Maybe not but Mainoo is a really good player and hes just 19 Mainoo is lightyears ahead of whatever England were attempting with TAA in the groups, big reason why England dominated the central areas for an hour. Foden was finally picking up the ball in central areas and getting shots and passes away. Spain is completely different prospect though with Rodri and Olmo if you do manage to shut down the wide players. I just can't see Southgate coming up with an effective enough gameplan to shut Spain down so it's going to have to be an extreme low block and try to create stuff against Spain's high line and take those chances when it comes. I'd be surprised if Spain don't score twice at least v this England setup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted July 11 VT Supporter Share Posted July 11 26 minutes ago, PaulC said: Maybe not but Mainoo is a really good player and hes just 19 Another reason why pundits saying Gareth's changes have always been right. It was obvious we needed Mainoo in there before the tournament started. I get he's young and it's a bit of a risk. but if he's good enough he's old enough. It still took Gareth a few games to stumble upon playing Mainoo there. And he's been one of our best players. To think we started with **** Trent Alexander-Arnold there is hilarious 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hobsons Choice Posted July 11 VT Supporter Share Posted July 11 13 hours ago, Wainy316 said: Spain have performed better in their tournament but man for man I’d say England are the better side. Yes, Cucurella plays for them. Just be interesting to see how we’re managed. I said after/during the first Spain game that Saka could rip Cucurella apart. That will be where we can get some joy, I think. That said, unfortunately I just don't see how we can win it. I reaally hope I'm wrong. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ml1dch Posted July 11 Share Posted July 11 3 hours ago, Stevo985 said: Cucurella has been abaoslutely excellent this tournament. One of their best players It's not as if he's a stop-gap either, he's played well enough that he's kept the best left-back in Europe last season on the bench for nearly the whole tournament. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted July 11 VT Supporter Share Posted July 11 1 minute ago, ml1dch said: It's not as if he's a stop-gap either, he's played well enough that he's kept the best left-back in Europe last season on the bench for nearly the whole tournament. Yep, he's been brilliant Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chindie Posted July 11 VT Supporter Share Posted July 11 Spain have been the best team in the tournament by a distance. England have stunk the tournament out and got to the final after about a total of 90 minutes good performance across every match combined. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post mjmooney Posted July 11 VT Supporter Popular Post Share Posted July 11 Let's make it interesting. Spain wins, they get Gibraltar. England wins, we get Benidorm. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hobsons Choice Posted July 11 VT Supporter Share Posted July 11 10 minutes ago, mjmooney said: Let's make it interesting. Spain wins, they get Gibraltar. England wins, we get Benidorm. Oooooh. Stakes. This shit just got interesting. I'll take your Benidorm and raise you a Fuerteventura. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted July 11 Share Posted July 11 Hopefully England fans dont act like they did on the day of the Euro 2020 final Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Wainy316 Posted July 11 Popular Post Share Posted July 11 Petition to make this the national flag if we win. It is obviously the key to our success. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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