Demitri_C Posted July 9 Share Posted July 9 Spain will destroy us if we get to final Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xela Posted July 9 Share Posted July 9 3 minutes ago, Genie said: Morata potentially injured by a photographer after the final whistle Makes Spain even more favourites 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Steve Posted July 9 Share Posted July 9 WTF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted July 9 Share Posted July 9 Please France sack Deschamps. You can afford to pay up the 2 years he has left. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonesy7211 Posted July 9 Share Posted July 9 As good as Spain were, if you stood their first 11 up against on ours in paper it'd be pretty even. Kane, Foden, Saka, and Bellingham are at least as good as Morata, Lamal, Williams, and Olmo. Rodri is different gravy to Rice, but other than that it's pretty even. Just shows how bad our coaching is. I can't see us getting past the Dutch, but Spain will destroy us if we do. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom13 Posted July 9 Share Posted July 9 1 minute ago, Jonesy7211 said: As good as Spain were, if you stood their first 11 up against on ours in paper it'd be pretty even. Kane, Foden, Saka, and Bellingham are at least as good as Morata, Lamal, Williams, and Olmo. Rodri is different gravy to Rice, but other than that it's pretty even. Just shows how bad our coaching is. I can't see us getting past the Dutch, but Spain will destroy us if we do. Fabian Ruiz is also another level to our CMs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xela Posted July 9 Share Posted July 9 3 minutes ago, The_Steve said: WTF Surprised he didn't roll around and hold his face. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrBlack Posted July 9 Share Posted July 9 1 minute ago, Jonesy7211 said: As good as Spain were, if you stood their first 11 up against on ours in paper it'd be pretty even. Kane, Foden, Saka, and Bellingham are at least as good as Morata, Lamal, Williams, and Olmo. Rodri is different gravy to Rice, but other than that it's pretty even. Just shows how bad our coaching is. I can't see us getting past the Dutch, but Spain will destroy us if we do. Disagree. Lamal and Williams are far more dangerous than peak Saka, and the Foden for England seems incapable of playing to his club standard, and also isn't as threatening even when he is. Olmo vs Bellingham we probably have the edge and I'd say Kane and Morata are both equally ineffective. Then you get to the rest of the team, and bring in the cohesion Spain have and its night and day. A well coached England may have enough quality such that if we got lucky we might win, but not this England. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TDR V2 Posted July 9 Share Posted July 9 Of all the Spaniards he could have taken out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Steve Posted July 9 Share Posted July 9 2 minutes ago, MrBlack said: Disagree. Lamal and Williams are far more dangerous than peak Saka, and the Foden for England seems incapable of playing to his club standard, and also isn't as threatening even when he is. Olmo vs Bellingham we probably have the edge and I'd say Kane and Morata are both equally ineffective. Then you get to the rest of the team, and bring in the cohesion Spain have and its night and day. A well coached England may have enough quality such that if we got lucky we might win, but not this England. Simon has looked shaky on crosses at times. I think England or the Netherlands should exploit that - France just overhit a lot of their crosses today and I think it was a tactic they sought to exploit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
romavillan Posted July 9 VT Supporter Share Posted July 9 4 minutes ago, Jonesy7211 said: As good as Spain were, if you stood their first 11 up against on ours in paper it'd be pretty even. Kane, Foden, Saka, and Bellingham are at least as good as Morata, Lamal, Williams, and Olmo. Rodri is different gravy to Rice, but other than that it's pretty even. Just shows how bad our coaching is. I can't see us getting past the Dutch, but Spain will destroy us if we do. Spain play as a team, something we have not managed to do so far. If Koeman gets a tune out of his team we're going out 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TDR V2 Posted July 9 Share Posted July 9 Best team won, if England beat Holland they will have to play the best they have ever played just to hang on. Williams and Yamal will run rings around Shaw or Trippier Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
romavillan Posted July 9 VT Supporter Share Posted July 9 4 minutes ago, MrBlack said: Disagree. Lamal and Williams are far more dangerous than peak Saka, and the Foden for England seems incapable of playing to his club standard, and also isn't as threatening even when he is. Olmo vs Bellingham we probably have the edge and I'd say Kane and Morata are both equally ineffective. Then you get to the rest of the team, and bring in the cohesion Spain have and its night and day. A well coached England may have enough quality such that if we got lucky we might win, but not this England. A well coached England would give any national team in the world a good game, that's what's so sad. All my life we have not technically been able to compete with the best, sometimes we made up for it with balls out never say die football, but we never had players (apart from one or two) at the level of the better teams Now we do and we have no game, no idea, no identity and no clue of how to use what we have. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted July 9 Share Posted July 9 11 minutes ago, Tom13 said: Fabian Ruiz is also another level to our CMs. only because Henderson and Phillips are not in the squad 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fightoffyour Posted July 9 VT Supporter Share Posted July 9 10 minutes ago, romavillan said: Spain play as a team, something we have not managed to do since at least 2018 FTFY 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maqroll Posted July 9 Share Posted July 9 I enjoy it when Didier Deschamps is miserable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Keyblade Posted July 10 Share Posted July 10 It's been a few years now but I think I've seen enough to get this off my chest. I have no idea why Tchouameni is so highly rated, and how it is he's been keeping out Bouba from the national side. Kamara is twice the player. At least Camavinga (who also has flattered to deceive since moving to Madrid) has something about him and is versatile (and was genuinely quite exciting in his Rennes days), but Tchouameni while really good... is just that. He doesn't really excel at anything. Just does everything reasonably well. Probably a manager's dream though to be fair. Reliable 7/8 out of 10 every game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villan95 Posted July 10 Share Posted July 10 6 hours ago, romavillan said: A well coached England would give any national team in the world a good game, that's what's so sad. All my life we have not technically been able to compete with the best, sometimes we made up for it with balls out never say die football, but we never had players (apart from one or two) at the level of the better teams Now we do and we have no game, no idea, no identity and no clue of how to use what we have. While I completely agree we're not getting anywhere near the best out of this crop of players, for me the 'golden generation' still has to be the most disappointing. They played below par football and didn't get beyond a quarter final. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
romavillan Posted July 10 VT Supporter Share Posted July 10 2 hours ago, villan95 said: While I completely agree we're not getting anywhere near the best out of this crop of players, for me the 'golden generation' still has to be the most disappointing. They played below par football and didn't get beyond a quarter final. The golden generation were over hyped, not many people outside the UK premier league bubble thought we had a world beating set of players. Now though most people I speak too are baffled as to why we play so poorly with these players. During these Euros I've spoken to Italians, french, Swedish and Germans who rate Bellingham, Foden, saka, rice, kane, stones, trippier, walker etc as proper players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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