Popular Post HanoiVillan Posted June 23 Popular Post Share Posted June 23 1 hour ago, bobzy said: Nah, his leg gets clattered by a knee - didn't jump into the defender at all. Should have been a penalty. Armstrong has smashed Orban in the face with his arm before there's any knee contact: Would have been an outrageous penalty IMO. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LakotaDakota Posted June 23 Share Posted June 23 (edited) 53 minutes ago, tonyh29 said: So I was right then Completely wiped him out, can't see why it wasn't a pen. Edited June 23 by LakotaDakota 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozvillafan Posted June 24 VT Supporter Share Posted June 24 On first viewing, looked a certain penalty. On replay, Armstrong appears to step across and stop. That may be due to his poor touch, but that's Harry Kane-esque. Glad it wasn't given. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodders0223 Posted June 24 Share Posted June 24 It's not a penalty. The defender shouldn't concede a penalty because the bloke can't control a football and has the weirdest gait known to man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
delboy54 Posted June 24 Share Posted June 24 Would have been a penalty if Scotland had played in the same colours as liverpool or man utd, arsenal, or man city, spuds or chelski......and refereed by an English premier league ref with VAR and the refs mates watching. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted June 24 Share Posted June 24 You see those pens given all the time in the Premier League. It’s no surprise Shearer though it should be given as the British pundits love the slow mo and agree that because there was some contact it’s a pen (forgetting it’s a contact sport). The Scotland striker whilst he did get a knee to the calf was definitely more interested in winning a pen than trying to score. It all looked very manufactured. It’s a shame for Scotland but I am happy for these type of incidents not generating penalties, it’s ruined English football for years. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted June 24 Share Posted June 24 39 minutes ago, Genie said: You see those pens given all the time in the Premier League. It’s no surprise Shearer though it should be given as the British pundits love the slow mo and agree that because there was some contact it’s a pen (forgetting it’s a contact sport). The Scotland striker whilst he did get a knee to the calf was definitely more interested in winning a pen than trying to score. It all looked very manufactured. It’s a shame for Scotland but I am happy for these type of incidents not generating penalties, it’s ruined English football for years. right on both points for me you see those given in the PL, doesn't make it right though, it never looked right at any point, he jumps across the defender, there is obviously contact I'm not going to suggest there isn't but that contact doesn't do that, a knee to his left thigh spins him round 90 degrees? no chance 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulC Posted June 24 Share Posted June 24 Very few penalties given this tournament. The bar has been set high. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted June 24 Share Posted June 24 Seen pens given for far less than that in PL. Its a clear pen for me shocking that it never even went to VAR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted June 24 Share Posted June 24 12 minutes ago, Demitri_C said: Seen pens given for far less than that in PL. Its a clear pen for me shocking that it never even went to VAR my understanding of VAR would be that it did, the video refs looked at it again and then decided it wasn't worth the formal review and the pitch side monitor, they watch everything, its selective as to what they can get involved in but they still watch the entire game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted June 24 Share Posted June 24 1 minute ago, villa4europe said: my understanding of VAR would be that it did, the video refs looked at it again and then decided it wasn't worth the formal review and the pitch side monitor, they watch everything, its selective as to what they can get involved in but they still watch the entire game If they had VAR look at it and think that isnt a penalty then you are either totally useless at your job or youe cheating. Thats clear as day its a penalty Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted June 24 Share Posted June 24 7 minutes ago, Demitri_C said: If they had VAR look at it and think that isnt a penalty then you are either totally useless at your job or youe cheating. Thats clear as day its a penalty or they're highly qualified and and experienced and the viewers aren't id go the other way (kw) and say that if you think that's a penalty its because you've become attuned to years of bad PL decisions did hear last night that the ref wasn't European, not sure where he was from (or the VAR team) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted June 24 VT Supporter Share Posted June 24 I still think it was offside, and that's why VAR didn't properly check it. If VAR had looked at it properly it would have been given Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted June 24 VT Supporter Share Posted June 24 9 hours ago, wishywashy said: Probably the best case scenario with an incident like that. Could have been very, very bad. Thank goodness This is great news but I did find the overreaction to it quite weird. People on twitter had diagnosed him with a broken neck and severe brain trauma Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted June 24 Share Posted June 24 8 minutes ago, Demitri_C said: Seen pens given for far less than that in PL. Its a clear pen for me shocking that it never even went to VAR In England a toe brushing a leg is justification and it’s completely wrong. Tournaments like this remind us just how bad the officiating is here. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted June 24 Share Posted June 24 Just now, villa4europe said: or they're highly qualified and and experienced and the viewers aren't id go the other way (kw) and say that if you think that's a penalty its because you've become attuned to years of bad PL decisions did hear last night that the ref wasn't European, not sure where he was from (or the VAR team) I dont think thats a acceptable excuse when you have the best version of VAR and we are suppose to have the "best refs" from each country. You are on a global audience . Its really really poor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theboyangel Posted June 24 Share Posted June 24 3 minutes ago, Stevo985 said: This is great news but I did find the overreaction to it quite weird. People on twitter had diagnosed him with a broken neck and severe brain trauma Twitter Doctors are as bad and deluded as Twitter Detectives… Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted June 24 Share Posted June 24 3 minutes ago, Stevo985 said: This is great news but I did find the overreaction to it quite weird. People on twitter had diagnosed him with a broken neck and severe brain trauma He did look to be having some sort of fit or seizure on the ground. The reaction of the doctors and players also suggested something very serious had occurred. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted June 24 Share Posted June 24 16 minutes ago, Demitri_C said: I dont think thats a acceptable excuse when you have the best version of VAR and we are suppose to have the "best refs" from each country. You are on a global audience . Its really really poor what's the excuse? you think its a penalty because the PL has bad refs who have a history of awarding nonsense penalties like that, in the euros its not a penalty because they're not bad refs and are not putting up with it the ref saw it didn't think it was a penalty, VAR saw it didn't think it was a penalty, we all saw it here and we're split, you think it was I think it wasn't collectively anyone who doesn't agree that it was a penalty is wrong? its not a penalty firstly because the attacker jumps in to the defender and secondly because a knee to your leg does not result in that fall, the ref was spot on 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted June 24 VT Supporter Share Posted June 24 24 minutes ago, Genie said: He did look to be having some sort of fit or seizure on the ground. The reaction of the doctors and players also suggested something very serious had occurred. It looked really bad for sure. But people were writing his obituary Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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