Vive_La_Villa Posted September 4 Share Posted September 4 It's pretty shit but I always try not to get upset and angry about things out of my control. The only thing a person upset by it is not buy one. It does take the piss though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Captain_Townsend Posted September 4 Popular Post Share Posted September 4 (edited) 38 minutes ago, thabucks said: Have you seen the gulf in finances though ? Like it or loathe it the club must rinse every penny they can if you want us to stay 7th and higher - especially when competing against clubs whose countries GDP fund the club. If Lange & Purslow were still here I’d dread to think how we would be financially. It’s modern football economics but sure you’ll find a way to lay the blame solely at Heck without any regard to this. Many of Lange's signings were either sold for profit and/or remained key players for years and years. When Purslow was appointed we had spent the guts of a decade in the wilderness and found ourselves mid table in the Championship. When Purslow left the club we were 7th and had qualified for Europe for the first time in 14 years. In 5 years Purslow made some mistakes but he 'got' the club, had vision, and kept us informed. In one year Heck has made some mistakes, shown a short term approach, acted like a bull in a China shop on our crest and not been 100% truthful in his comms. He was also fortunate to walk into a top 7 club, unlike his predecessor Edited September 4 by Captain_Townsend 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
icouldtelltheworld Posted September 4 Share Posted September 4 26 minutes ago, ender4 said: Arsenal PL tickets for a Cat A game - £83, £93, £106, £141. I assume you can add £10 more for a CL game. Aye, absolutely no socioeconomic differences between north London and Birmingham/the Black Country either Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chasetown Villa Posted September 4 Share Posted September 4 It’s an absolute **** disgrace. Totally overshadowed the prospect of Champions League football at VP. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post WallisFrizz Posted September 4 Popular Post Share Posted September 4 So many fans have been completely had over by that deliberately timed Monchi and Vidagny interview that they’re tying themselves in knots to defend and even welcome these prices. It was extremely manipulative by the club, absolutely shameful actually. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Made In Aston Posted September 4 Share Posted September 4 I've put my child up for sale to pay for the home matches. £400 ONO. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain_Townsend Posted September 4 Share Posted September 4 This will backfire, not good PR/branding to rip off fans. Especially when a club like Celtic is charging so much less 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
icouldtelltheworld Posted September 4 Share Posted September 4 2 minutes ago, Made In Aston said: I've put my child up for sale to pay for the home matches. £400 ONO. You can probably extract way more value from this sale, I'd recommend contacting Chris Heck for advice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grantholtgolazo Posted September 4 Share Posted September 4 As professional sports corporatize this is part and parcel. You can’t blame Heck, our owners are international businessmen with a capital b, they aren’t in it for just a love of the game/club. Here in the US families and most working class people have been priced out of attending these type of events for 1/2 decades at least. This is modern top tier sports. If we want to compete in the highest echelons, e.g. Champions League; its only going to get more expensive for supporters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alreadyexists Posted September 4 VT Supporter Share Posted September 4 (edited) The average price of a non concession CL ticket is £91. So, say we sell out, but minus a (say) 4k away allowance (I think we’re only required to give 5%). So 38,000 (ish) x £91 is £3.4m per home game, x 4 games that’s £13.6m for the group stage alone. Not all of it profit of course but that’s a healthy income for 4 games. Edited September 4 by alreadyexists Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ender4 Posted September 4 Share Posted September 4 1 minute ago, alreadyexists said: The average price of a non concession CL ticket is £91. So, say we sell out, but minus the 4k away allowance (I think we’re only required to give 5%). So 38,000 (ish) x £91 is £3.4m per home game, x 4 games that’s £13.6m for the group stage alone. Not all of it profit of course but that’s a healthy income for 4 games. Call it £5m per game once you add in corporate and GA+ tickets. So £20m for the four games. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobzy Posted September 4 Share Posted September 4 18 minutes ago, Stevo985 said: Chris Heck doesn't give a flying **** if fans are alienated by this by the way Nor do our owners. This isn’t a one man show. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarryOnVilla Posted September 4 Share Posted September 4 5 minutes ago, icouldtelltheworld said: I have been alienated by it. In a few seasons, I have gone from attending every home game that I am physically able to, to just a handful (4 - 5 max) over the past two seasons, to almost certainly none this season due to being priced out. Plenty in my immediate circle who have experienced the same, including families who have had to give up long-held season tickets due to price increases that have consistently above the rate of inflation. The child poverty rate in Birmingham is just above 40%, compared with a national average of ~22%. You're living in a fantasy world if you think this isn't going to alienate previously loyal fans You’re not alienated… you’re still a fan, you’re still here chatting about the club, you still celebrate the goals, the wins. The unfortunate thing, like most us here, we are priced out. Worse yet, tickets and merch is still getting sold. So there’s no reason for the club to change what they’re doing. It sucks on a personal level. But this is what happens when we’re broke and the club is ambitious. I can’t afford going to prem games let alone CL games, but I’m not miffed if other people can. UTV, pay for the players that I can’t 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobzy Posted September 4 Share Posted September 4 1 minute ago, ender4 said: Call it £5m per game once you add in corporate and GA+ tickets. So £20m for the four games. Halve the price and it’s £13m or so. £7m is “nothing”. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
icouldtelltheworld Posted September 4 Share Posted September 4 Just now, CarryOnVilla said: You’re not alienated… you’re still a fan, you’re still here chatting about the club, you still celebrate the goals, the wins. The unfortunate thing, like most us here, we are priced out. Worse yet, tickets and merch is still getting sold. So there’s no reason for the club to change what they’re doing. It sucks on a personal level. But this is what happens when we’re broke and the club is ambitious. I can’t afford going to prem games let alone CL games, but I’m not miffed if other people can. UTV, pay for the players that I can’t Honestly? Not for much longer. As I said in a previous post, I'm well on my way to falling out of love with the club and don't even bother watching every game on a stream anymore. This is a direct consequence of the utter contempt the club has shown to loyal supporters over the past few years Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ender4 Posted September 4 Share Posted September 4 1 minute ago, bobzy said: Halve the price and it’s £13m or so. £7m is “nothing”. £7m is a lot actually when you look at our total revenue. That's a Morgan Rogers transfer fee or a third of a new RB or a few days of Digne's wages. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Captain_Townsend Posted September 4 Popular Post Share Posted September 4 (edited) Twenty quid less for a ticket would not make much material difference to a global brand like Aston Villa, even with our constraints. But twenty quid less would make a hell of a difference to an average fan who has been there through thick and thin. Sorry, but there are no excuses for this crap. None. Edited September 4 by Captain_Townsend 12 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAMAICAN-VILLAN Posted September 4 Share Posted September 4 38 minutes ago, bobzy said: a] Aston Villa isn't located in London; one of the most expensive cities in the World b] Arsenal are an established part of "the elite"; I imagine their wage bill in higher too ...but more importantly... c] "The Emirates is a library, filled with tourist fans". We're very different, right? There revenue also dwarfs ours though? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vive_La_Villa Posted September 4 Share Posted September 4 2 minutes ago, icouldtelltheworld said: Honestly? Not for much longer. As I said in a previous post, I'm well on my way to falling out of love with the club and don't even bother watching every game on a stream anymore. This is a direct consequence of the utter contempt the club has shown to loyal supporters over the past few years Maybe this is the plan. Replace the fanbase. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
icouldtelltheworld Posted September 4 Share Posted September 4 Just now, Vive_La_Villa said: Maybe this is the plan. Replace the fanbase. It's definitely part of it IMO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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