Summer Transfer Window (2024/25)

[Philosopher]

2 hours ago, juanpabloangel18 said:

Correct: UEFA defines 'homegrown' players as those who, regardless of their nationality, have been trained by their club or by another club in the same national association for at least three years between the ages of 15 and 21.

Think this may have been a big factor in us re-signing JPB

That's in order to register players in the 25 man squad list. If they're over 21.

However you can play u21 players without registering them in the 25 man squad list. However I think that applies to domestic u21 only. Not sure if they have to be trained at the club or not.

Also homegrown are domestic players, which are playing trained in the country the club is based in. At least 8 have to be registered. 

Then you have homegrown AND trained at the club which you have to register 4 such players.

So Maatsen, Konsa, Watkins and Martinez are considered homegrown, but not trained at the club. Whereas Ramsey and Philogene are not only homegrown but also Villa trained. 

Kane Kessler Hayden is the same homegrown, villa trained) but he can be played without registering as he is also under 21. Where is get confused is whether u21 homegrown, but not trained at the club can also be played without registering, and then non homegrown. 

[Awol]

52 minutes ago, PaulMcGrath_5 said:

Who you thinking/hoping for?

Alvarez? Might explain why we’ve been a shoulder for Citeh to cry on before they get kicked out of the league. 

[Lerner's Driver]

35 minutes ago, PeterSw said:

Dani Olmo please - couple of days left on that release clause

I think you mean Dani Lolmo - the guy was the most effective attacking player in the Euros, just watched by millions, including the technical directors of all the big clubs... genuinely, why would he join Villa?

[CarryOnVilla]

1 minute ago, PaulMcGrath_5 said:

Who you thinking/hoping for?

I think Alvarez would be the ideal player, but I believe he has no interest

Nico Williams would be a mega coup,  but Barcelona is the destiny 

Felix fits the bill, yet I’m not excited by him 

Maximilian Beier, feels more interesting to me 

Dani Olmo, would be real fun to have.

a few unpopular outsiders that if think fit the bill.. Jarrod Bowen, Gabi Jesus, Ferran Torres

 

[CarryOnVilla]

Just now, Lerner's Driver said:

I think you mean Dani Lolmo - the guy was the most effective attacking player in the Euros, just watched by millions, including the technical directors of all the big clubs... genuinely, why would he join Villa?

To have a Sutton Coldfield postcode 

[CVByrne]

5 minutes ago, Philosopher said:

That's in order to register players in the 25 man squad list. If they're over 21.

However you can play u21 players without registering them in the 25 man squad list. However I think that applies to domestic u21 only. Not sure if they have to be trained at the club or not.

Also homegrown are domestic players, which are playing trained in the country the club is based in. At least 8 have to be registered. 

Then you have homegrown AND trained at the club which you have to register 4 such players.

So Maatsen, Konsa, Watkins and Martinez are considered homegrown, but not trained at the club. Whereas Ramsey and Philogene are not only homegrown but also Villa trained. 

Kane Kessler Hayden is the same homegrown, villa trained) but he can be played without registering as he is also under 21. Where is get confused is whether u21 homegrown, but not trained at the club can also be played without registering, and then non homegrown. 

The u21 list is unlimited but to qualify they need to have been at the club for 2 years to qualify. So Iling Junior and Duran for example wouldn't qualify 

[Philosopher]

56 minutes ago, CarryOnVilla said:

I’m also in this realm of thinking. 

sell both and get a great player that covers both 

I think it will someone like Beier who is young and high potential and can play both left forward, no 10 as ss, and striker. Plus a more experienced striker that is proven in European competitions.

So Beier AND Tammy for example.

 

[Philosopher]

1 minute ago, CVByrne said:

The u21 list is unlimited but to qualify they need to have been at the club for 2 years to qualify. So Iling Junior and Duran for example wouldn't qualify 

Yeah I replied before reading the rest of the responses.

[Philosopher]

50 minutes ago, PaulMcGrath_5 said:

This guy said it well.

 

I can't help feel that Emery sees Rogers as more of a 10 then a left winger. After all he was signed the be brought through gradually rather than thrown straight in. And was started as a 10 in a couple games. So maybe Philogene was signed for BOTH flanks. As the cover for both Ramsey and Bailey. With Rogers as the 10. It's what I'd do! 

I see someone like Beier coming in. Can play striker, wide forward or behind the main striker, rather than a specialist number 10. Actually Alvarez fits the bill perfectly. Felix less so, but he can play as a false 9 and off the left.

Olmo is more of a 10 that can play in centre midfield, so he isn't really what we are looking for I believe.

If Diaby goes, which I feel is likely, then a quick player that can player striker, wide left or right, and 10 will come in. 

Duran will be replaced like for like. So another out and out striker.

[Kiwivillan]

17 hours ago, JAMAICAN-VILLAN said:

I just have a gut feeling that Unai is going to turn Onana into a player worth almost double what we paid for him eventually.

All the raw attributes are there, look what he's done with much more! Physically " limited " players?

Hope so. Was excited then looked at Everton results last season when he played vs when he didn't. Results were pretty good when he was out vs when he played but no idea of the dynamics of whole team as didn't follow that closely

[The_Steve]

2 hours ago, PaulMcGrath_5 said:

This guy said it well.

 

Rogers is more of a second striker. He only played on the left more due to injuries to JJ/Zaniolo. He can play there. But I don’t think Unai sees that as his strongest role. 

[Pongo Waring]

2 hours ago, PaulMcGrath_5 said:

This guy said it well.

 

Where does McGinn play then? He will be first choice in one of those forward positions 

Edited July 16 by Pongo Waring

[PaulMcGrath_5]

Just now, Pongo Waring said:

Where does McGinn play then?

Mind your own.

[Pongo Waring]

1 minute ago, PaulMcGrath_5 said:

Mind your own.

Well he didn't say it well then didn't he

[PaulMcGrath_5]

Just now, Pongo Waring said:

Well he didn't say it well then didn't he

Neither did you with this grammatical nightmare.

[HalfTimePost]

2 hours ago, Philosopher said:

That's in order to register players in the 25 man squad list. If they're over 21.

However you can play u21 players without registering them in the 25 man squad list. However I think that applies to domestic u21 only. Not sure if they have to be trained at the club or not.

Also homegrown are domestic players, which are playing trained in the country the club is based in. At least 8 have to be registered. 

Then you have homegrown AND trained at the club which you have to register 4 such players.

So Maatsen, Konsa, Watkins and Martinez are considered homegrown, but not trained at the club. Whereas Ramsey and Philogene are not only homegrown but also Villa trained. 

Kane Kessler Hayden is the same homegrown, villa trained) but he can be played without registering as he is also under 21. Where is get confused is whether u21 homegrown, but not trained at the club can also be played without registering, and then non homegrown. 

Answered two pages ago. No they can't

[GREAT_BEARD_OF_ZEUS]

1 hour ago, Kiwivillan said:

Hope so. Was excited then looked at Everton results last season when he played vs when he didn't. Results were pretty good when he was out vs when he played but no idea of the dynamics of whole team as didn't follow that closely

Signed by Lampard and plays well in his system.  Under performs and eventually gets dropped by Dyche in his system.

It’s an odd one because you would think he’s Dyche’s dream player, but who knows under that ginger anti-baller?!

Think he’ll plug in well to our side. Seems to have exactly the same fan feedback as Tielemans did last summer (and from memory he was being played wrongly by Brendan Rodgers).

[Jas10]

23 minutes ago, GREAT_BEARD_OF_ZEUS said:

 

Signed by Lampard and plays well in his system.  Under performs and eventually gets dropped by Dyche in his system.

It’s an odd one because you would think he’s Dyche’s dream player, but who knows under that ginger anti-baller?!

Think he’ll plug in well to our side. Seems to have exactly the same fan feedback as Tielemans did last summer (and from memory he was being played wrongly by Brendan Rodgers).

Dyche’s dream?

 

 

 

[CarryOnVilla]

1 minute ago, Jas10 said:

Dyche’s dream?

[RicRic]

1 hour ago, Pongo Waring said:

Where does McGinn play then? He will be first choice in one of those forward positions 

I don’t understand this, Mcginn is not a forward player he plays more wide in a slightly advanced right midfield position and does not have any interference with those positions in any sense.
 

                           Watkins

    Ramsey/Rogers                   Bailey

              Tielemans              Mcginn

                       Kamara/Onana