burchy Posted July 9 Share Posted July 9 22 minutes ago, Jas10 said: Do we get much from this? A sell on percentage? Can match the offer if we wish, don’t think we will. Has been reported that there were “several clauses” in his contract with Hull. Would Philogene be classed as a club trained player for us, if we brought him back? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jas10 Posted July 9 Share Posted July 9 7 minutes ago, burchy said: Would Philogene be classed as a club trained player for us, if we brought him back? Quite sure he would, yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOF Posted July 9 Moderator Share Posted July 9 8 minutes ago, burchy said: Would Philogene be classed as a club trained player for us, if we brought him back? Easily yes, he was on our books from January 2018 to September 2023. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
burchy Posted July 9 Share Posted July 9 For a relatively small fee I’d be looking to match that then as Ramsey, Sinisalo, Kelsey-Hayden and Philogene would make our 4 club trained players so could field a full CL squad of 25 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nick76 Posted July 9 Share Posted July 9 6 minutes ago, burchy said: For a relatively small fee I’d be looking to match that then as Ramsey, Sinisalo, Kelsey-Hayden and Philogene would make our 4 club trained players so could field a full CL squad of 25 Why would JPB agree to come back when we couldn’t give him what he wanted last time and thus he asked to leave whereas he would get loads of game time at Everton. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enda Posted July 9 Share Posted July 9 11 hours ago, Indigo said: Was a good prospect but safe to say he doesn't seem the kind of character you'd want around... Listen listen listen, let he who has not been kicked out of a prestigious French football academy for pressuring secondary school students to masturbate in front of him in the bathrooms, cast the first stone. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulMcGrath_5 Posted July 9 Share Posted July 9 (edited) 15 minutes ago, burchy said: For a relatively small fee I’d be looking to match that then as Ramsey, Sinisalo, Kelsey-Hayden and Philogene would make our 4 club trained players so could field a full CL squad of 25 Little snippet. Quote Aston Villa have matching rights for Philogene, who they sold to Hull last year, until Wednesday and are ready to activate their clause. But Villa acknowledge that it will be the player’s decision. Edited July 9 by PaulMcGrath_5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichW Posted July 9 Share Posted July 9 13 minutes ago, burchy said: For a relatively small fee I’d be looking to match that then as Ramsey, Sinisalo, Kelsey-Hayden and Philogene would make our 4 club trained players so could field a full CL squad of 25 6 minutes ago, nick76 said: Why would JPB agree to come back when we couldn’t give him what he wanted last time and thus he asked to leave whereas he would get loads of game time at Everton. Ornstein just tweeted Ipswich have agreed £18 million deal for him and looks set to pick them over Everton. Says Villa have matching clause up till tomorrow but respecting his wish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
striker Posted July 9 Visiting Supporter Share Posted July 9 2 minutes ago, PaulMcGrath_5 said: Little snippet. If he doesn’t go to Everton then Villa should buy him back. Very impressed with him last pre-season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterSw Posted July 9 Share Posted July 9 After seeing the drama his agent is currently undertaking, I don't want him or JP at Villa. I'd rather have the sell-on. You'd think/hope it would be a 20% job. £5m sale and £3m sell-on would be a good earner from that deal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulMcGrath_5 Posted July 9 Share Posted July 9 Just now, PeterSw said: After seeing the drama his agent is currently undertaking, I don't want him or JP at Villa. I'd rather have the sell-on. You'd think/hope it would be a 20% job. £5m sale and £3m sell-on would be a good earner from that deal Just so you know, 90% of football agents are idiots--that viewpoint significantly reduces the amount of players we could therefore sign. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david-avfc Posted July 9 Share Posted July 9 The disappointment with Philogene is that is was so obvious last summer he was ready to step up, we sold Archer and Ramsey for a combined £30m and they both looked way off it in comparison, Philogene looked like a first team player and we flogged him on the cheap, £5m for a player who is worth £18m 10 months later, who will probably be worth £30-40m immediately if he performs well in the Prem this season. An absolute stinker from the club on this one. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isa Posted July 9 Share Posted July 9 Let's be honest, Everton or Palace would be a much better move for JPB than us for where he is currently in his career. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulMcGrath_5 Posted July 9 Share Posted July 9 Just now, Isa said: Let's be honest, Everton or Palace would be a much better move for JPB than us for where he is currently in his career. Agreed. I can't see him wanting to come back to us as his game time would arguably be even more limited than it was prior to him leaving. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WallisFrizz Posted July 9 Share Posted July 9 2 minutes ago, david-avfc said: The disappointment with Philogene is that is was so obvious last summer he was ready to step up, we sold Archer and Ramsey for a combined £30m and they both looked way off it in comparison, Philogene looked like a first team player and we flogged him on the cheap, £5m for a player who is worth £18m 10 months later, who will probably be worth £30-40m immediately if he performs well in the Prem this season. An absolute stinker from the club on this one. If we have a sell on, I’m ok with it. If we don’t, I’m inclined to agree with you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vive_La_Villa Posted July 9 Share Posted July 9 (edited) 18 minutes ago, david-avfc said: The disappointment with Philogene is that is was so obvious last summer he was ready to step up, we sold Archer and Ramsey for a combined £30m and they both looked way off it in comparison, Philogene looked like a first team player and we flogged him on the cheap, £5m for a player who is worth £18m 10 months later, who will probably be worth £30-40m immediately if he performs well in the Prem this season. An absolute stinker from the club on this one. I think in all likelihood he will just be playing championship again in 2 seasons. Edited July 9 by Vive_La_Villa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jas10 Posted July 9 Share Posted July 9 More noise on Duran to West Ham. If they actually place a bid, I wonder if Chelsea get involved? Bidding war would be lovely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulMcGrath_5 Posted July 9 Share Posted July 9 Just now, Jas10 said: More noise on Duran to West Ham. If they actually place a bid, I wonder if Chelsea get involved? Bidding war would be lovely. Show me the noise! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jas10 Posted July 9 Share Posted July 9 1 minute ago, PaulMcGrath_5 said: Show me the noise! Chatter/speculation more than proper links or sources… Show me the money! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jas10 Posted July 9 Share Posted July 9 3 minutes ago, PaulMcGrath_5 said: Show me the noise! Are you familiar with the ExWHUEmployee account? Worth taking seriously? Some Villa fan accounts have quoted and discussed it. And apparently, Chelsea’s interest has “receded”. Can’t be arsed to post as people are sensitive about tweets/accounts that aren’t seen as clearly legit and with enough followers. Rather not deal with the crying and moaning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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