Summer Transfer Window (2024/25)

[abdulaziz1]

1 minute ago, The_Steve said:

Digne will be staying I anticipate. He’s earned the right the play CL football with us and Unai trusts him. 

I think right now the core that Unai will want to keep:

Martinez, Konsa, Torres, Kamara, McGinn, Bailey and Watkins. Everyone else could be sold for different reasons. 
But I’d guess he’d keep Rogers as well because of his potential and assume not much wages. Tielemans because of losing Luiz. Diaby because no one would pay near to what we’ve already spent on him. Ramsey as well because his value is much higher and had a setback. 
He won’t sell everyone for sure, but I think he’d consider any sale, Digne especially because of his wages would be considered to sell of a good offer came. 
We’ve done bad financially because we didn’t sell at the right time. El Ghazi for example scored 10 the other season. Instead of selling DS kept him because we had some players missing for one or two games (which Philogene could’ve just played), to get stuck with him after that and value reduced. 
 

Once a player isn’t in your main plans, while being a starter before that, just sell as the value will reduce, especially those who are on bug wages. When teams know that a player is being benched they start putting their terms. 
 

Cash and Digne are definitely for sale if the right offer came, Cash because his value is high and we need to upgrade, Digne because he had a great season but getting old and high wages. While it’s looking that he’ll not be a regular start so would be even harder to shift next season. 
It’s not perfect as having him to rotate would be great and add another dimension, but on a more wider picture and longer term now is the right time. It will also depend on what offers we get for Moreno.

For me if we’ve secured Hermoso signing, I’d sell Digne and Cash while getting the Italian RB. That would give us a good defensive cover in Hermoso if we wanted to attack from the right side.

[duke313]

1 hour ago, villa89 said:

Baena & Hermoso maybe.

Hermoso link seems to have gone dead, would have been announced by now if we agreed.

[Awol]

6 minutes ago, duke313 said:

Hermoso link seems to have gone dead, would have been announced by now if we agreed.

Why? Hermoso hasn’t been announced as going anywhere else and as of next week he’s a free agent. 

He may end up going to Napoli (or somewhere else) but there’s at least an equal chance he comes to us. 

[Awol]

39 minutes ago, tyklip said:

Way too many mouths to feed if all these players came in. You'd be paying a lot of money for players to sit on the bench. 

We always pay players to sit on the bench, that what the squad is for. The point is to put players on it who are good enough to use! 

Outs: 

Sanson

Coutinho

Hause

Chambers

Cash

KKH

Duran 

Moreno

[thunderball]

13 minutes ago, duke313 said:

Hermoso link seems to have gone dead, would have been announced by now if we agreed.

Lots might happen on 1st July onwards. I think Barkley and Hermoso will be announced, bot would be good additions for next to nothing. The only issue is shifting Carlos/Chambers/Hause and the possibility of Todibo.

[duke313]

6 minutes ago, Awol said:

Why? Hermoso hasn’t been announced as going anywhere else and as of next week he’s a free agent. 

He may end up going to Napoli (or somewhere else) but there’s at least an equal chance he comes to us. 

I don't know, just feel like we'd be hearing more about it if it was happening.  With Kamar and Tielemans we heard a lot before it was announced, this has gone quiet.

[Tubby]

We need quality depth for the ECL. Positions where we could see additional incomings:

RB (Kayode), CB (Tobido), AM (Baena), CF (Beier).

We might also see a quality starting CM too.

Things I like about the moves we are making are:

• quality of depth is improved
• young players with potential
• versatility for multiple formations and in-game changes

Things that concern me:

• ensuring all these players get game time - some will be clear rotation options, others will expect to play every week
• it's an excessive amount of turnover
• player bonding and matching UE's expectations, will undoubtedly take time, especially with so many young players

 

Edited June 25 by Tubby

[HeroesAndVillans]

59 minutes ago, Awol said:

Incoming:
Hermoso - free

Kayode - €20M

Todibo -€25M

Fofana - €25M

Baena - €35-40M

German beer striker dude - €30M 

Total rebuild for €135-140M 

Outs:

Yes.

Would be a banging window... We are serious about challenging at the top again.

[abdulaziz1]

16 minutes ago, thunderball said:

Lots might happen on 1st July onwards. I think Barkley and Hermoso will be announced, bot would be good additions for next to nothing. The only issue is shifting Carlos/Chambers/Hause and the possibility of Todibo.

How long does Hause contract have? I remember signing him 3+1. That was 2019. Did we renew his contract? How long?

[Awol]

10 minutes ago, Tubby said:

We need quality depth for the ECL. Positions where we could see additional incomings:

RB (Kayode), CB (Tobido), AM (Baena), CF (Beier).

We might also see a quality starting CM too.

Things I like about the moves we are making are:

• quality of depth is improved
• young players with potential
• versatility for multiple formations and in-game changes

Things that concern me:

• ensuring all these players get game time - some will be clear rotation options, others will expect to play every week
• it's an excessive amount of turnover
• player bonding and matching UE's expectations, will undoubtedly take time, especially with so many young players

 

Agree with everything you say except excessive squad turnover. I think we’ll use the bait of CL football to pack the squad with young talent and the odd older head to add balance - preferably free agents. Rabiot is another one I could see us going for if he can’t agree a new deal at Juve.

This is the best opportunity since promotion to fundamentally remake the squad, going for revolution instead of the evolution we’ve seen since then. Yes it will take some time to bed everyone in, but we’ll be much better for it. Key is doing most of the business as early as possible. 

[Isa]

9 minutes ago, Tubby said:

We need quality depth for the ECL. Positions where we could see additional incomings:

RB (Kayode), CB (Tobido), AM (Baena), CF (Beier).

We might also see a quality starting CM too.

Things I like about the moves we are making are:

• quality of depth is improved
• young players with potential
• versatility for multiple formations and in-game changes

Things that concern me:

• ensuring all these players get game time - some will be clear rotation options, others will expect to play every week
• it's an excessive amount of turnover
• player bonding and matching UE's expectations, will undoubtedly take time, especially with so many young players

 

Player rotation issue is a fair point as Emery does seem to like to stick upon a settled team. Although I suppose he would argue that he didn't have the calibre of back up options to readily change line-ups game-to-game, as was exposed towards the end of the season. 

Big concern for me is the #2 GK issue. Martinez has started getting little niggles here and there and they usually get worse with age. I know we were linked with that random Brazilian guy the other week but until we see a few more GK links, I fear we might start next season with it still being Olson.

The fact Gauci wasn't even played in the dead rubber vs. Palace suggests to me he was signed to be a loan out, sell on kinda signing. 

[Tubby]

4 minutes ago, Isa said:

Player rotation issue is a fair point as Emery does seem to like to stick upon a settled team. Although I suppose he would argue that he didn't have the calibre of back up options to readily change line-ups game-to-game, as was exposed towards the end of the season. 

Big concern for me is the #2 GK issue. Martinez has started getting little niggles here and there and they usually get worse with age. I know we were linked with that random Brazilian guy the other week but until we see a few more GK links, I fear we might start next season with it still being Olson.

The fact Gauci wasn't even played in the dead rubber vs. Palace suggests to me he was signed to be a loan out, sell on kinda signing. 

re: rotation. I think that is very much the case. Due to injuries, the players on the bench were often academy players, so these moves will ensure that the matchday squads (20 for PL, 23 for ECL) are full of impactful players.

As a minimum, the team will be playing 50 games next season: PL 38; ECL 8; FA Cup 1; League Cup 1. I can see rotation becoming a feature of UE's game planning.

[PaulMcGrath_5]

7 minutes ago, Tubby said:

re: rotation. I think that is very much the case. Due to injuries, the players on the bench were often academy players, so these moves will ensure that the matchday squads (20 for PL, 23 for ECL) are full of impactful players.

As a minimum, the team will be playing 50 games next season: PL 38; ECL 8; FA Cup 1; League Cup 1. I can see rotation becoming a feature of UE's game planning.

Totally agree, rotation will increase as the quality of the replacements increase.

[Wes]

Tomorrow is the last Wednesday before June 30th, so the Juve transfers will probably all go through tomorrow surely?

[ender4]

34 minutes ago, abdulaziz1 said:

How long does Hause contract have? I remember signing him 3+1. That was 2019. Did we renew his contract? How long?

I think it's 1 year left now.

[JAMAICAN-VILLAN]

1 hour ago, duke313 said:

Hermoso link seems to have gone dead, would have been announced by now if we agreed.

Barkley hasn't been " announced " either.

[duke313]

Just now, JAMAICAN-VILLAN said:

Barkley hasn't been " announced " either.

We're buying him though and I presume we're waiting until July to announce.  Hermoso is still under contract until 30th June so his contract can't begin until July 1st at the earliest, so would make no difference if announced now or later (for PSR purposes).

[PaulMcGrath_5]

Did we announce Kamara before his contract was officially over with Marseille? I can't remember.

[Aston_Villan4]

2 minutes ago, JAMAICAN-VILLAN said:

Barkley hasn't been " announced " either.

Yeah but Barkley was “agreed to.” We knew it wouldn’t be formalized until beginning of July. There have been more links tying Hermoso to Napoli than to Villa.

[The_Steve]

I think we will sign a younger aged centre back. I’m not saying Hermoso isn’t happening, nor am I convinced that it is. Ezri is our youngest first team centre back at 26 now.