CarryOnVilla Posted June 22 Share Posted June 22 1 minute ago, MSvillain said: Players who can add to the team now but will also have increased in value in 4/5 years Simple rule, but totally rewarding. The only older players worth getting in, is the bargains like a Barkley & Morano that’s not an albatross on the clubs if age/injuries catches up on them. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strog Posted June 22 Share Posted June 22 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Delphinho123 said: You should have seen my direct debits to Clubcall. I was ringing those motherf*ckers thrice daily. I never went down that route fortunately, there was always a vacuum when the season finished waiting for any snippet of footie info was painful. It’s in overdrive nowadays and with all these shenanigans with PSR I think I’m switching off until the season starts… Am I heck Edited June 22 by Strog Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post CarryOnVilla Posted June 22 Popular Post Share Posted June 22 Im enjoying this window so far. Monchi has really come up with a smart plan to refresh our squad and solve PSR issues in one go. Also, adding to what he was doing last season, making our youth academy pay for itself without gutting it each year. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duke313 Posted June 22 Share Posted June 22 (edited) 6 minutes ago, CarryOnVilla said: Im enjoying this window so far. Monchi has really come up with a smart plan to refresh our squad and solve PSR issues in one go. Also, adding to what he was doing last season, making our youth academy pay for itself without gutting it each year. We’ve basically replaced Tim and Kellyman, with Barrenechea and Iling-Junior. Smart business from Monchi, signed those players replacements in the squad as part of the Luiz deal without spending anything. It means we don’t need to replace them and Luiz, only Luiz needs replaced. Edited June 22 by duke313 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarryOnVilla Posted June 22 Share Posted June 22 1 minute ago, duke313 said: We’ve basically replaced Tim and Kellyman, with Barrenechea and Iling-Junior. Smart business from Monchi, signed those players replacements in the squad as part of the Luiz deal without spending anything. It means we don’t need to replace them and Luiz, only Luiz needs replaced. Replaced for pretty much the same price. £/€30m each way Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strog Posted June 22 Share Posted June 22 So where does this leave Durán and his supposed move? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MSvillain Posted June 22 Share Posted June 22 Just now, Strog said: So where does this leave Durán and his supposed move? Chelsea still interested apparently, just awaiting the results from his Psychiatric evaluation 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarryOnVilla Posted June 22 Share Posted June 22 Just now, Strog said: So where does this leave Durán and his supposed move? Ongoing still…. Probably Duran still dragging his feet 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AshVilla Posted June 22 Share Posted June 22 2 minutes ago, Strog said: So where does this leave Durán and his supposed move? Chelsea still waiting for him to drop his 750k p/w wage demands. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strog Posted June 22 Share Posted June 22 1 minute ago, MSvillain said: Chelsea still interested apparently, just awaiting the results from his Psychiatric evaluation There’s no psychiatrist, dead or alive, that could sort that lads head out. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strog Posted June 22 Share Posted June 22 1 minute ago, AshVilla said: Chelsea still waiting for him to drop his 750k p/w wage demands. I disagree, Chelsea are probably waiting for him to increase his wage demands. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OutByEaster? Posted June 22 Moderator Share Posted June 22 Well, at this point I'm still not quite sure if it's genius or a shit show, but it's fascinating to watch, I thought we'd do some business this summer, but I didn't think we'd be quite this busy. At the moment, the Outs from last years squad look like being; Iroegbunam, Kellyman, Luiz, Lenglet, Zaniolo, Duran, Hause (?), Samson (that counts), Dendoncker, Coutinho, Chambers and also possibly Cash, Moreno and Archer. The Ins so far look like being; Barkley, Maatsen, Dobbin, Illing, Nedeljkovic and Barrenechea. There's clearly a whole lot of business still to be done - we have a big hole in the middle of the park with no Luiz or Kamara and potentially a slight weakness at centre back and right back and we'll need a striker if Ollie goes - but the plan seems a whole lot more complex than just filling gaps, anything could happen. It's going to be a hell of a summer. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted June 22 Share Posted June 22 And Lino Sousa who I expect will go out on loan again. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zab6359 Posted June 22 Share Posted June 22 1 hour ago, Delphinho123 said: £50m for Chukwuemeka, Iroegbunam and Kellyman is fantastic business. One of these players might go on to be very good and that’s the gamble you take. The Academy is doing exactly what it was set up to do and is funding the club. Compare it to Newcastle’s academy and you can see why they’re struggling with PSR too. Total garbage the academy isn’t there to fund the club that’s a ridiculous statement! That’s something a league one club would say. If it wasn’t for PSR we’d be holding on to our best young prospects. You think Newcastle are struggling because of there academy? That’s hilarious. They are in a similar PSR position to us because like us they have spent beyond there means. Some of the shit people come out with on here is outrageous at times. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strog Posted June 22 Share Posted June 22 10 minutes ago, OutByEaster? said: Well, at this point I'm still not quite sure if it's genius or a shit show, but it's fascinating to watch, I thought we'd do some business this summer, but I didn't think we'd be quite this busy. At the moment, the Outs from last years squad look like being; Iroegbunam, Kellyman, Luiz, Lenglet, Zaniolo, Duran, Hause (?), Samson (that counts), Dendoncker, Coutinho, Chambers and also possibly Cash, Moreno and Archer. The Ins so far look like being; Barkley, Maatsen, Dobbin, Illing, Nedeljkovic and Barrenechea. There's clearly a whole lot of business still to be done - we have a big hole in the middle of the park with no Luiz or Kamara and potentially a slight weakness at centre back and right back and we'll need a striker if Ollie goes - but the plan seems a whole lot more complex than just filling gaps, anything could happen. It's going to be a hell of a summer. It’s a balancing act in so much it’s about having genuine squad depth but working within the PSR rules. I love the fact the club has the vision and strategy to make us competitive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Delphinho123 Posted June 22 Popular Post Share Posted June 22 1 minute ago, zab6359 said: Total garbage the academy isn’t there to fund the club that’s a ridiculous statement! That’s something a league one club would say. If it wasn’t for PSR we’d be holding on to our best young prospects. You think Newcastle are struggling because of there academy? That’s hilarious. They are in a similar PSR position to us because like us they have spent beyond there means. Some of the shit people come out with on here is outrageous at times. Whoooaaaa, shots fired. I think you may have missed the point. Especially with the bit in bold. The difference between us selling a youngster for pure profit vs. Blues (love that I can use them as a League 1 example now) doing it is, we’re doing it so we can go and sign the left back who started in the CL final for £37.5m whereas they’re doing it to keep the lights on. The academy is funding our push to become a top 4 club on a consistent basis. Man City, Chelsea and other ‘top’ clubs have been doing it for years. Not sure what your point about Newcastle means. Both clubs are in PSR distress and we’re using our academy players to bail us out whereas I can’t remember them ever really selling an academy player for a significant amount of money - certainly not on a regular basis like we’re doing anyway. Whether you like our approach or not, I’d get used to it. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post CarryOnVilla Posted June 22 Popular Post Share Posted June 22 4 minutes ago, zab6359 said: Total garbage the academy isn’t there to fund the club that’s a ridiculous statement! That’s something a league one club would say. If it wasn’t for PSR we’d be holding on to our best young prospects. You think Newcastle are struggling because of there academy? That’s hilarious. They are in a similar PSR position to us because like us they have spent beyond there means. Some of the shit people come out with on here is outrageous at times. Ultimately the academy is there to create pro footballers. ideally, it’s for our senior squad. If not, for other squads and they pay us for the privilege. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OutByEaster? Posted June 22 Moderator Share Posted June 22 We're now involved in two very similar deals, but in each case we're at the opposite end. In both cases, a club is losing an established talent and getting instead some cash and a player or players with potential - which of these do you think is the better deal for us? The one where we sell the established player (Luiz out - Illings and Barrenechea in - and €30m) or the one where we buy the established player (Maatsen in, Kellyman out and €20m). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarryOnVilla Posted June 22 Share Posted June 22 if this window pays off for Villa, I’m expecting the Athletic to write up an article about how much they want to suck Monchi’s shiny, smooth head. Followed up buy a tifo podcast explaining how they want to nest in his beard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nick76 Posted June 22 Share Posted June 22 10 minutes ago, zab6359 said: Total garbage the academy isn’t there to fund the club that’s a ridiculous statement! That’s something a league one club would say. If it wasn’t for PSR we’d be holding on to our best young prospects. You think Newcastle are struggling because of there academy? That’s hilarious. They are in a similar PSR position to us because like us they have spent beyond there means. Some of the shit people come out with on here is outrageous at times. https://www.theguardian.com/football/blog/2023/sep/05/youth-academies-premier-league-clubs-revenue-stream Quote Forget building with youth: club academies now exist to boost revenue 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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