Summer Transfer Window (2024/25)

[Philosopher]

1 hour ago, zak said:

Is Conor Gallagher 6ft? Strikes me as a small weaker player (with some tenancity)

No he's 5'10 and a half.

[Philosopher]

1 hour ago, duke313 said:

There’s a pattern here

Gallagher, Iling, and Mckennie aren't our players. We haven't signed them or even bid for them. In regards to Mckennie and Gallagher if we are interested it's either or, not both.

Yes we are trying to add height and strength particularly to fullback. In midfield more mobility and aggression is needed as it's the achilles heel of our midfield.

[MarkLillis]

We have to be good in the transfer market.

We have to be able to operate well in difficult situations like now.

Player trading will be key to our future success.

That success will be based on the fact that our recruitment team know/see things that others in football don't.

So whilst i enjoy the speculation i don't for one minute think that i can predict our elite recruitment teams moves.

[Jas10]

40 minutes ago, Philosopher said:

I don't agree with this. 

Gallagher isn't better than Mcginn defensively. If anything Gallagher is a younger version of Mcginn. His game is about putting himself about, which means being with the play. So rather than holding a position with discipline (like a DM) he has to rely on moving into the the right position for a given action. This means he will leave space to be exploited, which is what happens when Mcginn plays DM.

Barkley is bigger and stronger than Luiz, but personally I think both players aren't natural when it comes to defending. So we'll probably defend aerial balls better but not much else.

Has Emery ever said he prefers well rounded midfielders over specialist DM's in the DM position because I can't recall him saying so.

Also kamara is a specialist DM, but is a well rounded midfielder as well. He can do everything except shoot and finish. I'm pretty sure he'd love to have another like Kamara. So basically wanting well rounded midfielder doesn't mean not like specialist DM's. After all Kamara is one of the first midfielders on the teamsheet when fit.

Neither of them can pass the ball as well, nor are they as composed and technical as Dougie is. Again, he’s our orchestrator or playmaker and none of the players or names mentioned measure up to him in that regard.

If we have to replace him, I assume it would be separately or after any deal we do with Juve. Maybe it’s why we’ve been linked to Soler…

My concern is that we would be significantly downgrading and losing too much of what Dougie gives us… Unai really relies on him.

We need technical players who excel at passing the ball and are unflustered in possession or under pressure.

Runners or box to box players like Barkley and Gallagher are not comparable or proper replacements for such a player… the only alternative we would end up with is Tielemans but he can be inconsistent, tired and picks up knocks and injuries.

We also need to get a DM or Kamara type… maybe that’s someone like Fofana and Thuram who can both intercept and tackle yet carry the ball forward and pass it well.

[Jas10]

 

[PaulMcGrath_5]

 

[Jas10]

 

[PaulMcGrath_5]

SELL THEM ALL!!!

[Philosopher]

The whole Juve Luiz transfer stuff is primarily all bull coming from Juve's side.

We probably do have an eye on Iling Jr and Mckennie, but only because they have a year on their contracts left (so should be pretty cheap) and have qualities the squad lacks. 

Juve evidently know this and really want Luiz, so are trying to tempt us in a swap. They can't afford the cash only fee so are offering two players that almost certainly are leaving within the next 3 windows.

Monchi is probably happy to string them along to drum up interest. The whole FFP thing and this Luiz stuff makes us seem strapped for cash, puts pressure on the prem and the stupid FFP rules and make our bargaining position better, as we appear to not have much money. Thus not a target to fleece.

Also if we sell Luiz for a big fee early in the window then that scenario flips. So we definitely won't sell him early if we are selling him.

Basically this is a all a smokescreen for our transfer business and FFP displeasure.

[JAMAICAN-VILLAN]

Just seen something claiming Moreno wants to go back to Betis.

Would this make Iling Junior make more sense, as well as keeping Digne?

Didn't we sign a young LB from Arsenal as well? Sousa I believe.

Edit: @PaulMcGrath_5 already shared 

Edited June 11 by JAMAICAN-VILLAN

[DaoDeMings]

Just now, JAMAICAN-VILLAN said:

Just seen something claiming Moreno wants to go back to Betis.

Would this make Iling Junior make more sense, as well as keeping Digne?

Didn't we sign a young LB from Arsenal as well? Sousa I believe.

Yeah if that's true Digne, Illing Junior and Sousa gives us more than enough. Weird about Moreno. Won't get much money for him either

[Tomaszk]

Moreno's problem will be how much Betis are willing to spend. We'll want over £7m to not make a loss on him.

[useless]

Illng Jr is a top young player, one of the best in his age group in the England set-up, and already made forty plus first team appearances for Juve first team whilst still only being twenty, and also someone I've been wondering that we might go for, as he' can come in as squad option winger, but can also leftback in the way Moreno was playing before his injury, something we've lost sine that injury

If we don't sign him some other ambitious team will, Spurs and Newcastle both linked constantly, obviously no guarantees with any player, but there's a good chance he will go on to be worth more than the £20m or whatever he's being valued at in the propsed exchange with Luiz

Actually I wouldn't be surprised if we signed him regardless of whatever happens with Luiz, as makes a lot of sense as a signing in isolation

[rbcuk]

I’d be happy to sell Moreno back to betis if we got a decent price, after his injury he hasn’t looked the same, lost some of his pace and get Miranda on a free from betis who plays left back 

[Philosopher]

3 minutes ago, DaoDeMings said:

Yeah if that's true Digne, Illing Junior and Sousa gives us more than enough. Weird about Moreno. Won't get much money for him either

Personally I'd be open to selling both Moreno and Digne. Simply because they're 30 odd now and one is on a high wage, while the other is a player known for speed and agility and has had major surgery on his hamstring recently.

I'd rather keep Moreno, and get a left back that can defend to replace Digne. 

[villan-scott]

Feel it might be a busy summer with all this ‘trading’. A fair few comings and goods it seems. Cash and Moreno I wouldn’t lose too much sleep over provided we bring in other full backs. Feel we need a specialist right back other than Konsa and Nedeljkovic. 

[Philosopher]

5 minutes ago, useless said:

Illng Jr is a top young player, one of the best in his age group in the England set-up, and already made forty plus first team appearances for Juve first team whilst still only being twenty, and also someone I've been wondering that we might go for, as he' can come in as squad option winger, but can also leftback in the way Moreno was playing before his injury, something we've lost sine that injury

If we don't sign him some other ambitious team will, Spurs and Newcastle both linked constantly, obviously no guarantees with any player, but there's a good chance he will go on to be worth more than the £20m or whatever he's being valued at in the propsed exchange with Luiz

Actually I wouldn't be surprised if we signed him regardless of whatever happens with Luiz, as makes a lot of sense as a signing in isolation

Interesting. We do need a back up left winger, as I see Rogers as a CAM / SS.

What do you think of his defensive qualities?

Do you see wing back as his best position going forward?

[useless]

I've never seen him play as a leftback, only as a left winger for England age group teams, and he's very much an attack minded winger, I would put him in a similar category to Philogene, who also played as a fullback for Cardiff as it happens. If he was to play leftback for us, I think we would probably play a more defensive rightback on the other side to compensate

Edited June 11 by useless

[Philosopher]

13 minutes ago, DaoDeMings said:

Yeah if that's true Digne, Illing Junior and Sousa gives us more than enough. Weird about Moreno. Won't get much money for him either

The thing is Iling Jr would cost us us 15 to 20 million and we would get at best 6 to 7 million for Moreno, while getting a player that  (at best) would probably be worse defensively than Moreno, but on par going forward. 

I suspect if we did sign Iling Jr it would as a left winger primarily.

[GlobalVillan]

25 minutes ago, Philosopher said:

The whole Juve Luiz transfer stuff is primarily all bull coming from Juve's side.

We probably do have an eye on Iling Jr and Mckennie, but only because they have a year on their contracts left (so should be pretty cheap) and have qualities the squad lacks. 

Juve evidently know this and really want Luiz, so are trying to tempt us in a swap. They can't afford the cash only fee so are offering two players that almost certainly are leaving within the next 3 windows.

Monchi is probably happy to string them along to drum up interest. The whole FFP thing and this Luiz stuff makes us seem strapped for cash, puts pressure on the prem and the stupid FFP rules and make our bargaining position better, as we appear to not have much money. Thus not a target to fleece.

Also if we sell Luiz for a big fee early in the window then that scenario flips. So we definitely won't sell him early if we are selling him.

Basically this is a all a smokescreen for our transfer business and FFP displeasure.

 You have no basis for that claim whatsoever.

Luiz was always likely to go this month and as I have said before, 60 to 70m is about where his value is.

People expecting 80/100m are just way off and overvaluing him. Same with Duran, who will likely go for around 30m. And not the 50m others have suggested.

The Juve links are real and from what I hear, quite far down the road.

Edited June 11 by GlobalVillan