Osirus Posted May 31 Share Posted May 31 1 hour ago, Pongo Waring said: That jump volley thing he does at 50 seconds is mad, sign him up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacketspuds Posted May 31 Share Posted May 31 If we lost Duran and Luiz, but got Gallagher, Soule and £40m, I’d probably just about be ok with that. Then bring in Baena and our net spend would be minimal. Won’t happen, but would improve us without impacting PSR negatively. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nick76 Posted May 31 Share Posted May 31 2 hours ago, Steero113 said: Not one side are spending £100m on a player this window imo. Those days are done for a considerable period. Disagree, someone will be buying Osimhen this summer and will likely have to trigger his £100m+ release clause or be very close to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philosopher Posted May 31 Share Posted May 31 2 hours ago, Pongo Waring said: Play off the right. We have that side covered. Needs to improve his shooting. Missed a bag of shots. The team he played for last season got relegated. Loads of talent there no doubt. Needs more development. We need a left mid / winger. Whoever we do sign to play left wing needs to do good defensive work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philosopher Posted May 31 Share Posted May 31 2 hours ago, Pongo Waring said: Play off the right. We have that side covered. Needs to improve his shooting. Missed a bag of shots. The team he played for last season got relegated. Loads of talent there no doubt. Needs more development. We need a left mid / winger. Whoever we do sign to play left wing needs to do good defensive work. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulMcGrath_5 Posted May 31 Share Posted May 31 So bad, he said it twice. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_AA_786 Posted May 31 Share Posted May 31 (edited) 1 hour ago, PaulMcGrath_5 said: So bad, he said it twice. Think Eric Djemba Djemba's parents thought the same Edited May 31 by _AA_786 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulMcGrath_5 Posted May 31 Share Posted May 31 8 minutes ago, _AA_786 said: Think Eric Djemba Djemba's thought the same His what thought the same? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul514 Posted May 31 Share Posted May 31 1 hour ago, jacketspuds said: If we lost Duran and Luiz, but got Gallagher, Soule and £40m, I’d probably just about be ok with that. Then bring in Baena and our net spend would be minimal. Won’t happen, but would improve us without impacting PSR negatively. If you were making circa 100m profit on the book value of players you would be spending far more than that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philosopher Posted May 31 Share Posted May 31 1 hour ago, jacketspuds said: If we lost Duran and Luiz, but got Gallagher, Soule and £40m, I’d probably just about be ok with that. Then bring in Baena and our net spend would be minimal. Won’t happen, but would improve us without impacting PSR negatively. But where is the striker to cover Watkins? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alreadyexists Posted May 31 VT Supporter Share Posted May 31 Not sure if this is ‘transfer speculation’ as such, but we’re being linked with Antonio Fernandez Marchan… I don’t know much about him, but this bloke apparently does: (A thread I’ve tried to copy here) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillanousOne Posted May 31 Share Posted May 31 we haven't really uncovered uncut gems, youth or otherwise in a long time, (other than Rogers at a push). we have some good young players coming through but as yet no one has broken fully into the first team we can't sign big name players all the time, or players in the final years of their career, we need to be turning 5-10 million pound signings into 50+ million pound players, ideally. The hardest market to buy in, but if Brentford and Brighton can do it, surely we can get in the mix. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ender4 Posted May 31 Share Posted May 31 2 minutes ago, VillanousOne said: we haven't really uncovered uncut gems, youth or otherwise in a long time, (other than Rogers at a push). Chuk - through youth team, sold for £20m to Chelsea. Archer, Philogene, A.Ramsey - youth, sold for roughly £30m between them. McGinn - bought for £3m aged 23 as a rough gem, playing in a nobody league in Scotland, now worth £50m and one of the first names on the team sheet. Rogers - bought for £8m, if continues current trajectory could be worth £30-50m soon. J. Ramsey - came through youth team, now worth £30-60m. Grealish - through youth team, sold for £100m. Luiz - bought for £15m aged 22 as a rough gem, only ever played for Girona since moving to Europe, now an integral part of the first team, worth £50-60m. Kamara - brought in on a free, aged 22, from Marseille. Now integral to Villa and worth £40-80m. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillanousOne Posted May 31 Share Posted May 31 (edited) 29 minutes ago, ender4 said: Chuk - through youth team, sold for £20m to Chelsea. Archer, Philogene, A.Ramsey - youth, sold for roughly £30m between them. McGinn - bought for £3m aged 23 as a rough gem, playing in a nobody league in Scotland, now worth £50m and one of the first names on the team sheet. Rogers - bought for £8m, if continues current trajectory could be worth £30-50m soon. J. Ramsey - came through youth team, now worth £30-60m. Grealish - through youth team, sold for £100m. Luiz - bought for £15m aged 22 as a rough gem, only ever played for Girona since moving to Europe, now an integral part of the first team, worth £50-60m. Kamara - brought in on a free, aged 22, from Marseille. Now integral to Villa and worth £40-80m. I already mentioned Rogers. McGinn, Grealish pretty much count as a 'long time ago' don't they or do you want to start throwing Dwight Yorke into the mix as profitable transfers? Philogene's 5 mil - not really going to cover Kamaras wages for even one year - Archer is coming back isn't he so until sold permanently doesn't quite fit your argument- yes we made some money on Chuk and Ramey but not big bucks. Luiz wasn't a cheap signing at the time. Ramsey was the last player who came through the youth team set up to play regularly . Free signings on mammoth wages don't count in my book, even if they are good business overall. But yeah you can cherry pick what you like and change the criteria of the argument to suit yours if that makes you feel better but our scouting and youth system isn't yet up to par yet, but is improving every year. We are doing a lot of things right, just love us to bring in some more leftfield signings - which we are getting linked to already so think Monchi will work that magic. Edited May 31 by VillanousOne Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CroVillan Posted May 31 Share Posted May 31 5 hours ago, Wes said: Just for the sake of discussion ( not my personal preference, nor do I think it likely)... What about 40m Euros + Soule + McKennie for Luiz? Nope no way with McKennie Wes. but……40m plus Soule and Locatelli and I’m listening to offers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacketspuds Posted May 31 Share Posted May 31 1 hour ago, Philosopher said: But where is the striker to cover Watkins? Good point. Olsen? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CroVillan Posted May 31 Share Posted May 31 15 hours ago, _AA_786 said: He's a better striker from a finishing perspective but doesn't offer Ollies workrate or working the channels so won't suit our system as much. It's all hypothetical though Oh FFS I’ll never live it down or hear the end of it. but yes it’s definitely ALL hypothetical lol 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
striker Posted May 31 Visiting Supporter Share Posted May 31 1 hour ago, Philosopher said: But where is the striker to cover Watkins? Plus the FBs?? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thabucks Posted May 31 Share Posted May 31 2 hours ago, nick76 said: Disagree, someone will be buying Osimhen this summer and will likely have to trigger his £100m+ release clause or be very close to it. Offer them £70mill plus Duran … they can have the donk for free also - pointless conversation as we aint signing him 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mic09 Posted May 31 Share Posted May 31 34 minutes ago, VillanousOne said: I already mentioned Rogers. McGinn, Grealish pretty much count as a 'long time ago' don't they or do you want to start throwing Dwight Yorke into the mix as profitable transfers? Philogene's 5 mil - not really going to cover Kamaras wages for even one year - Archer is coming back isn't he so until sold permanently doesn't quite fit your argument- yes we made some money on Chuk and Ramey but not big bucks. Luiz wasn't a cheap signing at the time. Ramsey was the last player who came through the youth team set up to play regularly . Free signings on mammoth wages don't count in my book, even if they are good business overall. But yeah you can cherry pick what you like and change the criteria of the argument to suit yours if that makes you feel better but our scouting and youth system isn't yet up to par yet, but is improving every year. We are doing a lot of things right, just love us to bring in some more leftfield signings - which we are getting linked to already so think Monchi will work that magic. We got the young keeper and the RB. We had Duran. Rogers is here. We need 2-3 a year. That's it. We are on track. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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