Summer Transfer Window (2024/25)

[markavfc40]

I don't know if we can feel too sorry for ourselves. I'd be confident in saying we are going to be in the top 7/8 in Prem league when it comes to wage bill. We've also spent a fair chunk since we came back into the Premier League and that has perhaps been a little distorted as we picked up both Kamara and Tielemans (arguably 100 mill combined value) on free transfers but they'll be on huge wages. 

I think this is likely to be the toughest window for us and we overcome this and hopefully maintain a top 5 finish/qualify for Champs league again then we'll be laughing. Our revenue will have increased massively, we'll have the guarantee of maintaining that, and we'll have cracked that ceiling. 

The squad perhaps isn't going to be as strong as we'd have liked but the huge counter balance to that is that we have for me one of the top two managers in the league. 

FWIW I think we'll see at least one more signing, likely a loan ,and perhaps in a few hours from now a decent window could still be pushed up to be judged as a good window.

 

Edited August 30 by markavfc40

[allani]

22 minutes ago, mikeyjavfc said:

The worst thing about the cost control is that it is a good idea… in theory. It’s obvious we need spending caps to ensure competitiveness and to prevent nation states from spending £100bn. But they should be equal for all teams in the league! Literally how can you have a fair sport where each team carries a different handicap? How is that ever going to produce a true competition that isn’t rigged in favour of some teams?

In most sports the handicaps aren't applied equally - but they are applied more heavily to the better / more successful teams.  Football's gone the other.  It's like changing horse racing so that the most successful horses (i.e. those that win the most) are given the smallest weights because they should be rewarded for being successful and then the other horses are given heavier weights to punish them for not winning as much prize money.

[duke313]

12 minutes ago, striker said:

Chalobah on loan with option to buy would be more than decent.

I cannot believe that isn't doable?

Someone correct me if i'm wrong, but I believe Chelsea cannot loan anymore players to other PL clubs?

[villan-scott]

You’d hope with Dendoncker and Enzo both out on loan it would give us scope to do SOMETHING in defence?! 

[Jas10]

10 minutes ago, allani said:

I think it can only mean that Kamara is a LOT closer to a return than I was expecting.

That Onana and Kamara CM partnership is gonna be

Allow everyone to run riot in attack

[avfc1982am]

1 minute ago, thabucks said:

Until he isn’t … and to become proven he needs to be given a chance. All players start out unproven 

He hasn't featured at all in the first team so it's a big ask to expect him to possibly come in and cover in the PL or CL. I don't think he's actually played in any cup games either. 

He might settle really well eventually but going into the season possibly relying on him with the competitions we are competing in is a gamble. A big gamble.

[Jas10]

3 minutes ago, villan-scott said:

You’d hope with Dendoncker and Enzo both out on loan it would give us scope to do SOMETHING in defence?! 

Thinking the same… thought it was going to be one or the other originally (would have liked to keep Enzo around).

A defender on loan, at least, unless we can bring in Hermoso now, on a free, and freed up space for his wages?

Just doesn’t “feel” like anything is going to happen but we have until 11pm…

Edited August 30 by Jas10

[Philosopher]

The squad is similar in numbers to last season, only greater depth! So it is an improvement.

Barkley is our 4th choice DM compared to Dendonker last season. 

Nedeljovic is our back up right back compared to Kessler-Hayden.

Ming compared to Lenglet.

Bailey coming good, Rogers' emergence, combined with the return of Ramsey and Buendia see us better in the CAM / wide forward positions.

Duran has a season developing, learning and maturing, so should improve. 

We are stronger than last season at this point in time. Whether it's strong enough for Champions League qualification, and doing ourselves justice in the champions league is unclear. They're are 5 or 6 teams on paper in a better position with their squad than us. 

[mikeyp102]

Looks like we’ve signed that young Colombian cb. 
 

[paul514]

I see the melt down has begun.

i wouldn’t have made all the signings we have chosen to do (we all have our own wants) but if the club don’t sign anyone today you can be assured it’s because the rules say we can’t for our position.

[Zatman]

2 hours ago, HalfTimePost said:

I'm shocked there's nobody coming in. 

Admin posted a photo of (R)ogers and (B)uendia. And Twitter assured me that meant a RB was imminent

Proves Twitter is full of idiots

[allani]

19 minutes ago, avfc1982am said:

My biggest concern would be the reliance on players that have had major injuries coming back to the same levels as previously. I still think there is a massive concern over this tbh. It's okay saying players will boost the squad when they're back but if they have at any point setbacks or struggle to get beck to pre injury levels then we are very light. Especially in defence with Mings. Add in the factor that Torres and Konsa spent good portions of the last campaign injured, I think it's inevitable the same will happen this season which imo will leave us in a precarious situation. Especially when you factor in that Carlos doesn't have the best record for staying injury free either.  

 

Presumably the recruitment, coaching and medical teams have access to a lot more information about the status of the injuries to Mings and Kamara than we do.  It is highly unlikely that the people in charge are just crossing their fingers and hoping for the best.

[Ashes Villan]

19 minutes ago, avfc1982am said:

Unproven

So was Gareth Barry when he made his debut at 17. If you are good enough you are old enough

[Bazmonkey]

9 minutes ago, Philosopher said:

The squad is similar in numbers to last season, only greater depth! So it is an improvement.

Barkley is our 4th choice DM compared to Dendonker last season. 

Nedeljovic is our back up right back compared to Kessler-Hayden.

Ming compared to Lenglet.

Bailey coming good, Rogers' emergence, combined with the return of Ramsey and Buendia see us better in the CAM / wide forward positions.

Duran has a season developing, learning and maturing, so should improve. 

We are stronger than last season at this point in time. Whether it's strong enough for Champions League qualification, and doing ourselves justice in the champions league is unclear. They're are 5 or 6 teams on paper in a better position with their squad than us. 

We are stronger as a squad....agreed

Another champions league run...that wont be down to us...it will be whether the so called bigger teams like Utd Chelsea maybe Newcastle have good seasons but we can too.

5-6 teams with better squads.....City...Liverpool....Arsenal...Chelsea on numbers.....who are the other two?

[Philosopher]

Just now, Ashes Villan said:

So was Gareth Barry when he made his debut at 17. If you are good enough you are old enough

He is going on loan to real union

[allani]

15 minutes ago, Jas10 said:

That Onana and Kamara CM partnership is gonna be

Allow everyone to run riot in attack

Absolutely.  Onana, Kamara and Youri will give us a superb platform in the middle of the pitch going both ways.

[duke313]

4 minutes ago, Bazmonkey said:

We are stronger as a squad....agreed

Another champions league run...that wont be down to us...it will be whether the so called bigger teams like Utd Chelsea maybe Newcastle have good seasons but we can too.

5-6 teams with better squads.....City...Liverpool....Arsenal...Chelsea on numbers.....who are the other two?

I presume Unai meant Spurs and United also.

[avfc1982am]

12 minutes ago, allani said:

Presumably the recruitment, coaching and medical teams have access to a lot more information about the status of the injuries to Mings and Kamara than we do.  It is highly unlikely that the people in charge are just crossing their fingers and hoping for the best.

Mings wont have played for 15 months, so with all due respect nobody knows how he'll be when he's eventually match fit. 

Edited August 30 by avfc1982am

[East London Villa]

If Barrenechea Dendoncker leave today and we bring nobody else in, our squad size is identical to the one we approached the 1st half of last season with. And the 2nd half of last season.

24 players, with 2 per position + 3rd choice goalkeeper + 1 spare utility player.

This is the senior squad size that Man City, Arsenal, Liverpool will all end up with by tonight.

We all want depth but that has to balanced with the financials AND how much a player in position 25, 26, 27 etc is likely to contribute vs gaining value/experience out on loan, with someone picked out of position for a couple of games instead or an U21 stepping up.

31st August 2024 (subject to late change)

GK	E.Martinez	R.Olsen	J.Gauci
RB	M.Cash	K.Nedeljkovic
CB	E.Konsa	D.Carlos	L.Bogarde
CB	P.Torres	T.Mings
LB	L.Digne	I.Maatsen
DM	A.Onana	B.Kamara
DLP	Y.Tielemans	R.Barkley
RAM	L.Bailey	J.Philogene
LAM	J.McGinn	J.Ramsey
FW	M.Rogers	E.Buendia
CF	O.Watkins	J.Duran

1st February 2024

GK	E.Martinez	R.Olsen	J.Gauci
RB	M.Cash	K.Kesler-Hayden
CB	E.Konsa	D.Carlos	C.Chambers
CB	P.Torres	C.Lenglet
LB	L.Digne	A.Moreno
DM	B.Kamara*	T.Iroegbunam
DLP	D.Luiz	Y.Tielemans
RAM	L.Bailey	N.Zaniolo
LAM	J.McGinn	M.Rogers
FW	M.Diaby	O.Kellyman
CF	O.Watkins	J.Duran

1st September 2023

GK	E.Martinez	R.Olsen	F.Marschall
RB	M.Cash	C.Chambers
CB	E.Konsa	D.Carlos
CB	P.Torres	C.Lenglet
LB	L.Digne	A.Moreno
DM	B.Kamara	L.Dendoncker
DLP	D.Luiz	Y.Tielemans
RAM	L.Bailey	N.Zaniolo
LAM	J.McGinn	J.Ramsey*
FW	M.Diaby	B.Traore	O.Kellyman
CF	O.Watkins	J.Duran

*got a long term injury after the transfer deadline

[villan-scott]