GingerCollins29 Posted August 29 Share Posted August 29 I always liked the right back from Lille, forget his name but was excellent against us Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich192 Posted August 29 Share Posted August 29 Kevin Danso's move to Roma has fallen through. Cheeky loan with obligation? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villan501 Posted August 29 Share Posted August 29 (edited) We will find out in next 24hours if we are done or maybe get someone or somebodies in. What I am struggling to understand is we have signed and loaned Dobbin, illing Jnr and Barrenchea looks like he could go costing us approx 30mil. My point is why the hell have we blown 30mil if it turns out that Bareenchea leaves and not go the relevant cover in defence that's glaringly obvious we need. Onana is a superb signing, Masstsen not sure if 37mil is worth it time will tell but the inability to sort the RB problem that is been an issues for some time. If the figures are correct the money wasted on the 3 players I mentioned would have got us a starting RB and nullified the threat Konsa would be switched. This is my view if we sign no one else we continue to support this great club and awesome manager but those 3 signings seem very much Gerrard and purslow esque. Edited August 29 by villan501 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villarocker Posted August 29 Share Posted August 29 I think we will sign someone in on loan to play right back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Made In Aston Posted August 29 Share Posted August 29 1 hour ago, dappadan said: A little concerned that if we move Dendoncker and Enzo out on loan that we are then one injury to Tielemans or Onana away from having nobody in the middle. Or am I missing someone? 3 players missing! Kamara, Barkley and McGinn. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villan501 Posted August 29 Share Posted August 29 Just now, Villarocker said: I think we will sign someone in on loan to play right back. Hope so bro the big question marks are mings and kamara, hiw long will they take to get back if it's soon stay as we are is cool.but if not we do some ins Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wezbid Posted August 29 Share Posted August 29 7 minutes ago, villan501 said: This is my view if we sign no one else we continue to support this great club and awesome manager but those 3 signings seem very much Gerrard and purslow esque. I think they're the complete opposite of Gerrard and Purslow's short term thinking when it comes to signings. If Bareenchea has a solid loan, he instantly commands a fee double what we paid, likewise Illing Jr. Whether they progress and blend into the first team or progress and be sold on to allow us more financial leeway. The signings are night and day to what we have had previously. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wezbid Posted August 29 Share Posted August 29 1 minute ago, Made In Aston said: 3 players missing! Kamara, Barkley and McGinn. A Barkley that made his impression last season in a deeper role no less. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villan501 Posted August 29 Share Posted August 29 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Wezbid said: I think they're the complete opposite of Gerrard and Purslow's short term thinking when it comes to signings. If Bareenchea has a solid loan, he instantly commands a fee double what we paid, likewise Illing Jr. Whether they progress and blend into the first team or progress and be sold on to allow us more financial leeway. The signings are night and day to what we have had previously. I totally get your point I think I'm simply applying my theory for right now and the RB situation. Your point about solid loam and fee is spot on I'm just frustrated that we need to repair something NOW and can't because we have FFP and 30m has been spent and we get nothing for that this season for the outlay. Edited August 29 by villan501 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wezbid Posted August 29 Share Posted August 29 1 minute ago, villan501 said: I totally get your point I think I'm simply applying my theory for right now and the RB situation. Your point about solid loam and fee is spot on I'm just frustrated that we need to repair something NOW and can't because we have FFP. Absolutely. It goes to show how these rules just help protect the already established teams with bigger off-field and somewhat on field incomes. Worst comes to worst then either Konsa moves over, Carlos steps in, Bogarde impressed enough to be back-up at CB/DM. Or, Konsa stays CB, Nedeljković gets his chance to prove himself and Carlos stays on the bench. We can adapt to the above if Kosta is struggling but so far, against some of the best wingers in the league, he's done well with a good run of fixtures to really get to grips with the league. I appreciate I'm probably over the top positive but I don't feel beyond the realms of reality either. I think we got 4th last season despite a horrible injury list. We're starting to come through it now. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villan501 Posted August 29 Share Posted August 29 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Wezbid said: Absolutely. It goes to show how these rules just help protect the already established teams with bigger off-field and somewhat on field incomes. Worst comes to worst then either Konsa moves over, Carlos steps in, Bogarde impressed enough to be back-up at CB/DM. Or, Konsa stays CB, Nedeljković gets his chance to prove himself and Carlos stays on the bench. We can adapt to the above if Kosta is struggling but so far, against some of the best wingers in the league, he's done well with a good run of fixtures to really get to grips with the league. I appreciate I'm probably over the top positive but I don't feel beyond the realms of reality either. I think we got 4th last season despite a horrible injury list. We're starting to come through it now. Yeah totally support that, think I've got me pants in a twist Villa have been superb in previous windows and started this superbly just didn't want it to peater put and end yo a pivotal player short. First 2 games villa impressed me and the manager goes without saying what he is to our club I'll be fine once window shuts and then we can all enjoy our ckub this season. We've had so many terrible terrible windows previously and it's the love for this great club that only wants the best for it.UTV Edited August 29 by villan501 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiwivillan Posted August 29 Share Posted August 29 32 minutes ago, Wezbid said: A Barkley that made his impression last season in a deeper role no less. And pre season showing had clearly not blown off the holiday cobwebs 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wezbid Posted August 29 Share Posted August 29 3 minutes ago, Kiwivillan said: And pre season showing had clearly not blown off the holiday cobwebs Aye, there's plenty more from Barkley than we've seen so far. Not all players are out of the traps. He'll get better with more game time and can basically cover the whole spectrum of CM's. There'll be plenty of minutes for him over the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dounavilla Posted August 29 Share Posted August 29 9 hours ago, villa89 said: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dounavilla Posted August 29 Share Posted August 29 Omg, I have heard on good authority Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul514 Posted August 30 Share Posted August 30 4 minutes ago, dounavilla said: Omg, I have heard on good authority What? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abdulaziz1 Posted August 30 Share Posted August 30 Only gutted about Enzo going, also not being able to get Geertruida. Anyway hoping for a good loan tomorrow, Chalobah could be an ok one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiwivillan Posted August 30 Share Posted August 30 12 minutes ago, dounavilla said: Omg, I have heard on good authority Interesting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skarroki Posted August 30 Share Posted August 30 1 hour ago, villan501 said: What I am struggling to understand is we have signed and loaned Dobbin, illing Jnr and Barrenchea looks like he could go costing us approx 30mil. My point is why the hell have we blown 30mil if it turns out that Bareenchea leaves and not go the relevant cover in defence that's glaringly obvious we need. We signed Dobbin for more than he is worth to get Iroegbunam sold for more than he was worth. We bought Iling-Junior and Barrenechea for that price in order to sell Luiz and not get a points deduction. That £30mil (less than that I believe but I'll go with it) is amortised over 5 years so this season that has actually cost us £6mil, which is about £5mil less than what we sold Iroegbunam for at pure profit. The comparison to Gerrard is bizarre, we never signed players close to this manner under him. This is definitely joined up future thinking. All those players are on loan, getting wages paid and possibly loan fees too, will all be coming back worth more than what we could sell for this window and what we paid for them. If those three helped us create more room in the budget and now they're all moved onto good loan clubs and having wages covered it's brilliant, it's been the opposite of stopping us getting a right back, it's opened up spending possibilities if needed. I honestly think they're forward thinking enough to prioritise the right areas of the pitch to make sure we're not left flapping around with hours to go looking for players. This has likely all been part of the plan. Similar to Liverpool, we might be short in a position like they are at DM, but if they can't sign their target then they just move on rather than panic buy option 4 on the list. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GingerCollins29 Posted August 30 Share Posted August 30 15 minutes ago, Kiwivillan said: Interesting ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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