sne Posted August 13 Share Posted August 13 Just now, est1874 said: Correct - if. He's not signed yet, no fee agreed, as far as know it's not gone beyond initial discussions. At the moment we have one broken Matthew and an 18 year old Kosta who is promising but by no means ready to go up against the Dokus of this world. Say he doesn't sign. Would signing Roberto really solve anything? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jas10 Posted August 13 Share Posted August 13 42 minutes ago, JAMAICAN-VILLAN said: Nah he chose his " home" and even Dived against us to win a penalty at his new house lol 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted August 13 Share Posted August 13 1 minute ago, OutByEaster? said: I'd argue our senior right back is Exri Konsa, that we've got the best eighteen year old I've seen coming through for years behind him and an experienced international in Cash behind them, not only that, but one of our brightest youth prospects, Tristan Rowe is a right back and we're strongly rumoured to be signing a player that can give us more options in terms of the way we use Konsa. Basque is he? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
est1874 Posted August 13 Share Posted August 13 5 minutes ago, OutByEaster? said: I'd argue our senior right back is Exri Konsa, that we've got the best eighteen year old I've seen coming through for years behind him and an experienced international in Cash behind them, not only that, but one of our brightest youth prospects, Tristan Rowe is a right back and we're strongly rumoured to be signing a player that can give us more options in terms of the way we use Konsa. We need Ezri at CB, where he is best. So for me that's a nonstarter. The rest that you've mentioned - not currently good enough or at the level we need to compete for top four PL again while also playing CL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allani Posted August 13 Share Posted August 13 9 minutes ago, est1874 said: How do we not need a RB? Our senior RB remains Matt Cash, a man who couldn't defend Fort Knox. Senior does not equal best. Although (even though I think Ned "feels" like a Rogers type player in terms of being someone who will listen and settle in pretty quickly rather than someone who will take 12 months to adjust) I'd like another RB as I think we'll see similar to LB where Emery changes after 60 minutes because it is quite a high energy / load position. For all that we've seen him like to have a 3 defensive players and 1 attacking FB - I do get the feeling that we'll aim to be less "left" heavy in terms of overlapping FBs. Ned and Geert (hopefully) are likely to be doing a lot of running this season. I think this is another reason for "firming up" our CM positions and that ultimately with Kamara and Onana one of those drops back into a CB 3 when we have the ball without weakening our CM control and allowing us to play with two more attacking / progressive FBs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Made In Aston Posted August 13 Share Posted August 13 58 minutes ago, duke313 said: If they sign Diaz, they’ll have him, Doku, Savio and even Foden for the left side. Bring. Him. Home! Grealish might go somewhere on loan this summer, but it is unlikely it will be to us. He doesn't suit the way we play and we are already absolutely stacked on the left hand side. Also, Emery isn't one to sign someone just for romantic nourishment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
est1874 Posted August 13 Share Posted August 13 5 minutes ago, sne said: Say he doesn't sign. Would signing Roberto really solve anything? Yes, it gives us a player with a decade of Champions League experience who can play RB in those games so we don't have to watch Cash get rinsed by the world's best left-wings in every game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duke313 Posted August 13 Share Posted August 13 If our only other incoming's were Geertruida and Lo Celso. How would you rank our window out of 10? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allani Posted August 13 Share Posted August 13 (edited) 6 minutes ago, duke313 said: If our only other incoming's were Geertruida and Lo Celso. How would you rank our window out of 10? I don't really care how I would score it. The only thing that matters to me is how Unai, Monchi and NSWE would score it. If they'd score it a 10 then I would assume we've got everyone they wanted and that it is fully alligned with their plan and strategy. If they'd score it a 5 then I would be a bit worried. To expand on this - in the past I have often felt that either we have excellent managers but a tight owner or a decent owner with a poor manager. Now our owner, manager and recruitment team seem 100% together on every decision that is being made. Sure Nas is positioning himself as the man to fit for proper fair play and equal opportunity against the humungously flawed FFP / PSR rules that do the exact opposite. But even then I think we've been pretty smart at exposing how ridiculous the rules are and that this is something we will hear a lot about in the various PL meetings next season. I think there will be more clubs willing to stand alongside NSWE next season and really challenge the PL (and UEFA) on what these rules are really trying to prove. Edited August 13 by allani Explanation added Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
est1874 Posted August 13 Share Posted August 13 Just now, allani said: I don't really care how I would score it. The only thing that matters to me is how Unai, Monchi and NSWE would score it. If they'd score it a 10 then I would assume we've got everyone they wanted and that it is fully alligned with their plan and strategy. If they'd score it a 5 then I would be a bit worried. Let's ask them then 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted August 13 Share Posted August 13 1 minute ago, est1874 said: Yes, it gives us a player with a decade of Champions League experience who can play RB in those games so we don't have to watch Cash get rinsed by the world's best left-wings in every game But he's been quite poor for 4 years now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duke313 Posted August 13 Share Posted August 13 1 minute ago, allani said: I don't really care how I would score it. The only thing that matters to me is how Unai, Monchi and NSWE would score it. If they'd score it a 10 then I would assume we've got everyone they wanted and that it is fully alligned with their plan and strategy. If they'd score it a 5 then I would be a bit worried. Hopefully they see this post and leave a comment to let us know. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted August 13 Share Posted August 13 (edited) 12 minutes ago, duke313 said: If our only other incoming's were Geertruida and Lo Celso. How would you rank our window out of 10? 6/10 maybe. But the players in most cases are signed with the next couple years in mind not just this season so over a longer period it's hopefully a 7 or 8 out of 10. Edited August 13 by sne Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JPAngel Posted August 13 VT Supporter Share Posted August 13 Sooo, with Grealish seemingly out of favour... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
est1874 Posted August 13 Share Posted August 13 2 minutes ago, sne said: But he's been quite poor for 4 years now. Still a significant step up from Matthew Cash IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OutByEaster? Posted August 13 Moderator Share Posted August 13 10 minutes ago, duke313 said: If our only other incoming's were Geertruida and Lo Celso. How would you rank our window out of 10? I think if we're able to rehabilitate Duran and Carlos that would be fine - if either of those left and we didn't replace them on top of the two you've suggested, then it'd be difficult to see it as a success. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nick76 Posted August 13 Share Posted August 13 10 minutes ago, duke313 said: If our only other incoming's were Geertruida and Lo Celso. How would you rank our window out of 10? 7 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RicRic Posted August 13 Share Posted August 13 1 hour ago, villa89 said: Yes. We signed Onana and Philogene to replace those two players. I dont think we did with Philogene tbh maybe just Onana Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duke313 Posted August 13 Share Posted August 13 2 minutes ago, OutByEaster? said: I think if we're able to rehabilitate Duran and Carlos that would be fine - if either of those left and we didn't replace them on top of the two you've suggested, then it'd be difficult to see it as a success. I think Geertruida would be the Carlos replacement, as he can also cover Konsa at CB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RicRic Posted August 13 Share Posted August 13 18 minutes ago, duke313 said: If our only other incoming's were Geertruida and Lo Celso. How would you rank our window out of 10? 6/10 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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