NurembergVillan Posted March 8 Moderator Share Posted March 8 Let's not underestimate the level of tactical nous required to play Emery's system. Coaching it into a player with years of top-level experience is always going to happen quicker than a young kid, regardless of background. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwi1890 Posted March 8 Share Posted March 8 37 minutes ago, Osirus said: Not concerned about him at all, he’s got all the raw physical assets needed to play the at the top level. Just needs to work on the tactical aspect and become more familiar with his role/the team. He can only become familiar by playing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicken Field Posted March 8 Share Posted March 8 2 hours ago, gwi1890 said: He can only become familiar by playing. Or by being coached daily by our world class manager Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwi1890 Posted March 8 Share Posted March 8 1 minute ago, Chicken Field said: Or by being coached daily by our world class manager A combination of both Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lexicon Posted March 8 Share Posted March 8 2 hours ago, NurembergVillan said: Let's not underestimate the level of tactical nous required to play Emery's system. Coaching it into a player with years of top-level experience is always going to happen quicker than a young kid, regardless of background. Quite. It requires a great deal of patience and composure, which are things that often come with experience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChicagoVillan1983 Posted March 8 Share Posted March 8 On 06/03/2024 at 11:36, AntrimBlack said: 6 ft 3 then? Homeless dude walks into a bar with Bill Gates. Bar man says - "I see you two are billionaires on average" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tinker Posted March 8 VT Supporter Share Posted March 8 He's started as well if not better than Tielemans did, you can see there's a player in there. Hopefully he starts against Ajax at home when we will (should have) have more of the ball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villan_of_oz Posted March 8 VT Supporter Share Posted March 8 9 hours ago, NurembergVillan said: Let's not underestimate the level of tactical nous required to play Emery's system. Coaching it into a player with years of top-level experience is always going to happen quicker than a young kid, regardless of background. This! Articulated better than I was going to say it too... Let's just give the kid a chance, and trust Unai knows what he is doing. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaVilla Posted March 8 Share Posted March 8 9 hours ago, NurembergVillan said: Let's not underestimate the level of tactical nous required to play Emery's system. Coaching it into a player with years of top-level experience is always going to happen quicker than a young kid, regardless of background. when it was confirmed he was joining us, i watched an interview with Rogers when he left City and joined Boro. He mentioned that he struggled at City with confidence and enjoying the game, as he found Pep's strong systematic approach not enjoyable, and he said it took some of his freedom from his game, and he didnt enjoy not being able to express himself, then he mentioned how he was loving it at Boro due to the freedom he has to express himself without much tactical restraint. Obviously he is a little older now, he has playing time under his belt, maybe his perspective has changed, but when i saw that i just though...."you do know you are going to be playing under Emery right?......Mr Tactical System...." Will be interesting to see how he develops under Emery, he clearly has the technical and physical abilities to succeed in the Prem, will be interesting to see how he adapts to Emery's demands. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NurembergVillan Posted March 8 Moderator Share Posted March 8 1 hour ago, MaVilla said: when it was confirmed he was joining us, i watched an interview with Rogers when he left City and joined Boro. He mentioned that he struggled at City with confidence and enjoying the game, as he found Pep's strong systematic approach not enjoyable, and he said it took some of his freedom from his game, and he didnt enjoy not being able to express himself, then he mentioned how he was loving it at Boro due to the freedom he has to express himself without much tactical restraint. Obviously he is a little older now, he has playing time under his belt, maybe his perspective has changed, but when i saw that i just though...."you do know you are going to be playing under Emery right?......Mr Tactical System...." Will be interesting to see how he develops under Emery, he clearly has the technical and physical abilities to succeed in the Prem, will be interesting to see how he adapts to Emery's demands. I didn't know that, so it's good insight. For me, there's a clear difference between Pep's almost robotic system and how Emery sends his teams out. There's the requirement for tactical understanding and discipline, but there also seems to be a lot of trust in the individual to express themselves. In some respects, that may be even harder. When to deploy the instructions and when to trust your instincts. As Bailey proves, though, if you can figure it out the results are outstanding. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom13 Posted March 9 Share Posted March 9 13 hours ago, NurembergVillan said: I didn't know that, so it's good insight. For me, there's a clear difference between Pep's almost robotic system and how Emery sends his teams out. There's the requirement for tactical understanding and discipline, but there also seems to be a lot of trust in the individual to express themselves. In some respects, that may be even harder. When to deploy the instructions and when to trust your instincts. As Bailey proves, though, if you can figure it out the results are outstanding. I'm sure Emery in that tactical interview thing he did the other day said something along the lines of 'sometimes the players have to think for themselves' so I hope/assume there he's referring to giving them some creative freedom. Really interesting comments from Rogers though! FWIW I think he's got everything to be a very good player for us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom13 Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 (edited) With JJ out, I'm picking this guy to start over Diaby and Zaniolo every time for the foreseeable. Give him a run, let's see what he can do. Edited March 11 by Tom13 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A'Villan Posted March 13 Share Posted March 13 Complete guesswork on my behalf but a player of Roger's promise and talent would probably not only have license to play with freedom but may actually have the tactical approach built around him. Again I've got no insight into the situation at Middlesbrough, though if it was that way it's fairly likely he was treated like a gem on and off the pitch. I don't really see Pep and his time at City being anything but demanding to see if he was going to cut it at the level they expect of anyone commanding minutes in the first team eleven. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJBOB Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 On the ball - mint. Easy to see why Unai likes him on the left in possession. At ease taking up central positions. Off the ball - close your eyes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeyp102 Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 Drove forward well with the ball at times. Has potential to grow. Presume he was taken off due to the early card. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam2003 Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 Watching the highlights back and some of the stuff he does with the ball is delightful. He’s going to be a lovely player after six months with Unai on the defensive side of the game 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abdulaziz1 Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 I think he’s done really well, as usual not helped by a yellow card, but I think he’ll be helpful in the coming run. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pongo Waring Posted March 14 Author Share Posted March 14 Seen enough in glimpses to know he's gonna be a good player for us. Just needs to it for one whole game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
birdman Posted March 15 Share Posted March 15 On 08/03/2024 at 21:57, MaVilla said: when it was confirmed he was joining us, i watched an interview with Rogers when he left City and joined Boro. He mentioned that he struggled at City with confidence and enjoying the game, as he found Pep's strong systematic approach not enjoyable, and he said it took some of his freedom from his game, and he didnt enjoy not being able to express himself, then he mentioned how he was loving it at Boro due to the freedom he has to express himself without much tactical restraint. It's what's happened to Jack, totally destroyed what he was Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vive_La_Villa Posted March 15 Share Posted March 15 On 08/03/2024 at 21:57, MaVilla said: when it was confirmed he was joining us, i watched an interview with Rogers when he left City and joined Boro. He mentioned that he struggled at City with confidence and enjoying the game, as he found Pep's strong systematic approach not enjoyable, and he said it took some of his freedom from his game, and he didnt enjoy not being able to express himself, then he mentioned how he was loving it at Boro due to the freedom he has to express himself without much tactical restraint. Obviously he is a little older now, he has playing time under his belt, maybe his perspective has changed, but when i saw that i just though...."you do know you are going to be playing under Emery right?......Mr Tactical System...." Will be interesting to see how he develops under Emery, he clearly has the technical and physical abilities to succeed in the Prem, will be interesting to see how he adapts to Emery's demands. Don’t want to go if topic but I’ve seen enough brilliance from players at City to know that if you are good enough you can express yourself but it’s important to do it in the right areas and at the right time. It’s not acceptable to lose the ball too often. It’s the same under Emery. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts