Davkaus Posted December 27, 2023 Share Posted December 27, 2023 Just now, AndyM3000 said: How have England not been able to produce a decent keeper since Seaman? Hart wasn't bad at his peak, tbf, and Pickford is probably currently the 3rd best English goalkeeper, but, you know, Southgate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villan95 Posted December 27, 2023 Share Posted December 27, 2023 Nooo that's not a pen! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davkaus Posted December 27, 2023 Share Posted December 27, 2023 (edited) Is that not above the "t shirt" line? Edit: Clearly not on the replay Edited December 27, 2023 by Davkaus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villan95 Posted December 27, 2023 Share Posted December 27, 2023 I thought it was chest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StefanAVFC Posted December 27, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted December 27, 2023 Ref literally just gave a pen because the city players cried about it 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreveryoung Posted December 27, 2023 Share Posted December 27, 2023 Either smashed him in the face or arm, hmmm? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StefanAVFC Posted December 27, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted December 27, 2023 How is that a pen and the Sheffield united player literally volleyball spiking it away isn’t? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villan95 Posted December 27, 2023 Share Posted December 27, 2023 Just now, StefanAVFC said: How is that a pen and the Sheffield united player literally volleyball spiking it away isn’t? Infuriating. Liverpool will feel the same about Zinchenko's too I'm sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyM3000 Posted December 27, 2023 Share Posted December 27, 2023 1 minute ago, Davkaus said: Hart wasn't bad at his peak, tbf, and Pickford is probably currently the 3rd best English goalkeeper, but, you know, Southgate. They weren't bad but there's been nobody near the world class level. Germany, Spain, Brazil, Italy have had some top keepers over the last 20 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oishiiniku_uk Posted December 27, 2023 Share Posted December 27, 2023 Decisions like that really do make you question the officials' impartiality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreveryoung Posted December 27, 2023 Share Posted December 27, 2023 It's the old ball to hand, not hand to ball. There gonna need to change the rule next season, he was like a metre away, what's he supposed to do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sharkyvilla Posted December 27, 2023 Share Posted December 27, 2023 2 minutes ago, StefanAVFC said: Ref literally just gave a pen because the city players cried about it I think the lino gave it. Proper old school that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StefanAVFC Posted December 27, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted December 27, 2023 Just now, foreveryoung said: It's the old ball to hand, not hand to ball. There gonna need to change the rule next season, he was like a metre away, what's he supposed to do. Not an unnatural position either considering he was blocking a shot. Compare it to our non handball which was arm, arm to ball and not a natural position 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Steve Posted December 27, 2023 Share Posted December 27, 2023 Pathetic. Pathetic pen call. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villan95 Posted December 27, 2023 Share Posted December 27, 2023 Oh good Michael Keane on to save the day Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davkaus Posted December 27, 2023 Share Posted December 27, 2023 1 minute ago, StefanAVFC said: Not an unnatural position either considering he was blocking a shot. Compare it to our non handball which was arm, arm to ball and not a natural position Tbf, it hit this guy a foot lower on the arm, if the Sheffield United player does the same action with that part of the arm there's no question Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
claretman Posted December 27, 2023 Share Posted December 27, 2023 The rule is a joke-how was he supposed to get out of the way of that from a yard away? They may as well say if it hits the hand/arm in the box in it's a penalty whether intentional or not. At least everyone would know where they stand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StefanAVFC Posted December 27, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted December 27, 2023 Just now, Davkaus said: Tbf, it hit this guy a foot lower on the arm, if the Sheffield United player does the same action with that part of the arm there's no question The biggest issue is that the handball rule seems to change week to week. Both non pens last GW were more obvious than that and neither were given. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyM3000 Posted December 27, 2023 Share Posted December 27, 2023 That's always going to be a pen now. Feels a bit harsh because he's trying to block the shot but his arm is raised relative to his body. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StefanAVFC Posted December 27, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted December 27, 2023 1 minute ago, AndyM3000 said: That's always going to be a pen now. Feels a bit harsh because he's trying to block the shot but his arm is raised relative to his body. It’s still natural in relation to his action though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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