Zhan_Zhuang Posted October 24, 2023 Share Posted October 24, 2023 1 hour ago, Demitri_C said: Didnt they lose to mostra? I mean mostra were solid defensively but a poor side. On another day we could have thumped them. It will be tough at their place but i dont think its as challenging as some of the teams we have faced in PL.if we perform like we know we can we could win the game comfortably Lets hope hammers game didnt take a lot out of us I don't think so, Villa were in control for most of the game. Still think Villa should be at almost full strength for this. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoony Posted October 24, 2023 Share Posted October 24, 2023 May not watch if we don’t go full strength as we all know how that will go now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted October 24, 2023 Author Share Posted October 24, 2023 Emi has to be in goal for this. I mean maybe a couple changes. Have youri in for mcginn baily for zaniolo other than that would want to go full strength I think key is try to qualify asap so we can go weaker towards end of the group games 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa89 Posted October 24, 2023 Share Posted October 24, 2023 On 22/10/2023 at 23:27, VillaChris said: Yes keep first 11 out there. We can't afford to lose another euro away game if we want to win the group so no messing about with selection. Of course must respect Luton aswell but we'll be o.k with 2-3 changes for that. We can't play our first XI twice a week all season and the premier league is the more important competition. 5/6 changes for AZ, they should be still good enough to win. Bring the first teamers off the bench with 30 minutes to go if it's looking shakey. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingman Posted October 24, 2023 Share Posted October 24, 2023 2 hours ago, Demitri_C said: Didnt they lose to mostra? I mean mostra were solid defensively but a poor side Yeah they lost 4-3 after being 3-0 up at Half time! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted October 24, 2023 Share Posted October 24, 2023 54 minutes ago, villa89 said: We can't play our first XI twice a week all season and the premier league is the more important competition. 5/6 changes for AZ, they should be still good enough to win. Bring the first teamers off the bench with 30 minutes to go if it's looking shakey. If we lose to Alkmaar I'm not sure we'll win the group tbh. We need to win the group as you then bypass a play off round or something in February so 1st place and we'd have a decent break from europe until March (so could get an FA cup run going in that time if the draw allows). If we're seeing the likes of Chambers and Donk thrown into the team then I think it's going to be a similar struggle to Warsaw. Luton at home we should be alright bring in likes of Tielemans if we want to give one of our regulars a rest. Bailey ahead of Zaniolo aswell. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted October 24, 2023 Author Share Posted October 24, 2023 14 minutes ago, Kingman said: Yeah they lost 4-3 after being 3-0 up at Half time! Seriously??? Goodness me. They looked totally toothless against us as a attacking force Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted October 24, 2023 Share Posted October 24, 2023 On 23/10/2023 at 01:47, Pongo Waring said: Vangelis Pavlidis is the inform player for AZ. 13 goals in 9 games this season. One to watch. They're flying in the Dutch League. Really can't see us winning this one. Tough tough game They conceded 4 to Mostar and we are in hot form as well. If we play with a professional attitude we should win 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pinebro Posted October 24, 2023 Share Posted October 24, 2023 You forgot cup final in the title 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rbcuk Posted October 24, 2023 Share Posted October 24, 2023 Need to play a strong team but we could do with resting a few the likes of Watkins Diaby and Luiz, as if any of them 3 get injured we are **** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted October 24, 2023 Author Share Posted October 24, 2023 5 hours ago, Zatman said: They conceded 4 to Mostar and we are in hot form as well. If we play with a professional attitude we should win Yeah as we know that is correct but doesn't always go like that. A point wouldnt be a disaster as long as we beat them at VP. I fancy us against any of these sides at home 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bannedfromHandV Posted October 24, 2023 Share Posted October 24, 2023 It’s going to be a really difficult game, they’re flying in the Dutch league and have a striker bang in form. We need to learn how to win away in Europe, we failed badly against Legia in that respect conceding early on and giving them all the encouragement they needed. I feel like we need to make changes to the starting XI but I’m not sure we can do that and win the game, part of me thinks we might more likely rest some against Luton and still win that one. Be interesting to see if Duran’s involved, if not you’d have to think there is some kind of ‘issue’ which would be a serious problem for us given that he’s the only real alternative to Watkins, perhaps Zaniolo can play up top with his physicality and ability to play with his back to goal. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OutByEaster? Posted October 24, 2023 Moderator Share Posted October 24, 2023 I think we can make several comfortable changes - the more obvious ones like Diego Carlos, Bailey and Dhuran if he's off the naughty step- I wouldn't be too surprised to see a couple more too - maybe Lenglet and Tielemans - but I don't see us really going much beyond that, I'd guess Traore would be the outsider. We could really do with Ramsey and Moreno back - having to play so many first teamers as much as we are is going to have a really effect on us come February or March. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjmooney Posted October 24, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted October 24, 2023 34 minutes ago, bannedfromHandV said: Be interesting to see if Duran’s involved, if not you’d have to think there is some kind of ‘issue’ which would be a serious problem for us given that he’s the only real alternative to Watkins, perhaps Zaniolo can play up top And even he might be looking at a ban before too long. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoelVilla Posted October 24, 2023 Share Posted October 24, 2023 Tielemans, Carlos and Bailey to start. No other rotation please. We got a week rest after Luton so we should go strong and take control of the group. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chine Posted October 24, 2023 Share Posted October 24, 2023 I hope we go strong and get the tie finished early ,then start changing a few 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiwivillan Posted October 24, 2023 Share Posted October 24, 2023 (edited) 3 hours ago, bannedfromHandV said: Be interesting to see if Duran’s involved, if not you’d have to think there is some kind of ‘issue’ which would be a serious problem for us given that he’s the only real alternative to Watkins, perhaps Zaniolo can play up top with his physicality and ability to play with his back to goal. Don't think Zaniolo has ever played striker. Diaby played striker PSG youth team apparently. Traore has loads of games at striker in career and plays there for national team Edited October 24, 2023 by Kiwivillan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulC Posted October 24, 2023 Share Posted October 24, 2023 On 23/10/2023 at 18:43, rodders0223 said: I'd go full strength in both games. Second string lot have showed themselves up when given a run wouldn't trust em to get 3 pts in either. Only exception Carlos, think he needs games and would be an absolute slap in the face I agree, it's still early in the season can't take any game lightly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smg Posted October 24, 2023 Share Posted October 24, 2023 3 hours ago, OutByEaster? said: I think we can make several comfortable changes - the more obvious ones like Diego Carlos, Bailey and Dhuran if he's off the naughty step- I wouldn't be too surprised to see a couple more too - maybe Lenglet and Tielemans - but I don't see us really going much beyond that, I'd guess Traore would be the outsider. We could really do with Ramsey and Moreno back - having to play so many first teamers as much as we are is going to have a really effect on us come February or March. Why the fixation on making changes ? We need to win this to create some breathing space , we should also be able to play a few days later at home and deal with Luton and then move on from there. Our replacements as individuals are ok as a unit less so. We also need to forget about players that are unavailable, as far as February is concerned they will be on full power and filling in for injured or knackered teammates it’s the way a squad works 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villan95 Posted October 24, 2023 Share Posted October 24, 2023 On paper our toughest group match? Could really do with a win to take control of the group so hopefully only minimal rotation. The likes of Carlos, Bailey, Tielemans and maybe Duran could come in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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