Demitri_C Posted September 17, 2023 Share Posted September 17, 2023 8 hours ago, sidcow said: It's well established that many women don't come forward to press rape charges for many complex reasons, some of which have already been stated on here. It's not for you to tell them what they should do now. Plus most have probably already got a family and children now. It takes a lot to put your family through something like that, especially with the difficulty of getting a conviction. Im not telling them what to do at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobzy Posted September 17, 2023 Share Posted September 17, 2023 The most galling thing in rape cases is people obsessed with "evidence". There's barely any. Ever. It's why rape convictions are so few and far between. Yet people insist on hard evidence. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCJonah Posted September 17, 2023 Share Posted September 17, 2023 7 minutes ago, Demitri_C said: Im not telling them what to do at all. No, just that you've made out like you won't believe them unless he's charged. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted September 17, 2023 Share Posted September 17, 2023 3 minutes ago, DCJonah said: No, just that you've made out like you won't believe them unless he's charged. You are one strange person i havent said that at all. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCJonah Posted September 17, 2023 Share Posted September 17, 2023 1 minute ago, Demitri_C said: You are one strange person i havent said that at all. So you do believe them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StefanAVFC Posted September 17, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted September 17, 2023 Dem what’s your view on Mason Greenwood? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted September 17, 2023 Share Posted September 17, 2023 Just now, DCJonah said: So you do believe them? Can you 1st show me where i have said this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidcow Posted September 17, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted September 17, 2023 10 hours ago, Demitri_C said: They should come forward and press charges as now its come out if they want him to be justice 14 minutes ago, Demitri_C said: Im not telling them what to do at all. It sounded an awful lot like you were. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted September 17, 2023 Share Posted September 17, 2023 1 minute ago, StefanAVFC said: Dem what’s your view on Mason Greenwood? Vermin and got off because of who he is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCJonah Posted September 17, 2023 Share Posted September 17, 2023 4 minutes ago, Demitri_C said: Can you 1st show me where i have said this? So you don't believe them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidcow Posted September 17, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted September 17, 2023 You know that skinny black guy who lives down the road. Looks funny, very scruffy, often walking down the street talking to himself. Probably a case of care in the community. I'm willing to bet that a great many of the people defending Brand and saying we need evidence would be the first ones outside that guys door with the pitchforks and flaming torches after a whiff of unsubstantiated kiddie fiddling rumour was reported about him on Facebook. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StefanAVFC Posted September 17, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted September 17, 2023 5 minutes ago, Demitri_C said: Vermin and got off because of who he is. What’s the difference between him and Brand? Both have accusers with evidence, both got off/will get off due to a lack of charges from victims. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted September 17, 2023 Share Posted September 17, 2023 Just now, sidcow said: It sounded an awful lot like you were. Erm no thats massively incorrect and a perfect example of instead of asking to clarify the comments stupid accusations are being made I thought it was obvious i was saying if the crime was commited if they wanted brand punished for his crimes they will come forward so the police investigate him and put him behind bars if he did these heinous crimes. I have not alluded to not believing them at all in that post. Nothing will happen to him if they dont come forward if they are making it up they will know the police are specialists in these cases. Its not for me or anyone else to make a assumption as ive said before it takes a unbelievable amount of courage to come forward if you been raped. I mean come on guys im starting to think its a witch hunt looking for something that isnt there. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted September 17, 2023 Share Posted September 17, 2023 (edited) 2 minutes ago, DCJonah said: So you don't believe them? Avoiding again no suprise there Stop trying to find aomething isn't there its really sad Edited September 17, 2023 by Demitri_C Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StefanAVFC Posted September 17, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted September 17, 2023 Just now, Demitri_C said: Erm no thats massively incorrect and a perfect example of instead of asking to clarify the comments stupid accusations are being made I thought it was obvious i was saying if the crime was commited if they wanted brand punished for his crimes they will come forward so the police investigate him and put him behind bars if he did these heinous crimes. I have not alluded to not believing them at all in that post. Nothing will happen to him if they dont come forward if they are making it up they will know the police are specialists in these cases. Its not for me or anyone else to make a assumption as ive said before it takes a unbelievable amount of courage to come forward if you been raped. I mean come on guys im starting to think its a witch hunt looking for something that isnt there. So he’s only done something wrong if they press charges? If they choose not to (for many legit reasons) he’s not done anything? Yet Greenwood is vermin? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted September 17, 2023 Share Posted September 17, 2023 (edited) 3 minutes ago, StefanAVFC said: So he’s only done something wrong if they press charges? If they choose not to (for many legit reasons) he’s not done anything? Yet Greenwood is vermin? Goodness me this is painfal it really is So your defending greenwood now ? Edited September 17, 2023 by Demitri_C 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Segundo Posted September 17, 2023 Share Posted September 17, 2023 2 hours ago, DCJonah said: Go on then. What's your critical thinking behind multiple women making these accusations? My critical thinking on the situation is that accusations are just that, they are not evidence and they are not proof, and I choose not to judge or condemn someone based on them alone, simply because I find him, his past behaviour or his views distasteful. I don't subscribe to guilty by public opinion, guilty by accusation, guilty because someone's a bit of an arse, guilty by the rule of "no smoke without fire" or guilty until proven innocent. I prefer to keep an open mind, let the evidence be revealed and let any proceedings play out. Then an informed opinion can be formed. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StefanAVFC Posted September 17, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted September 17, 2023 2 minutes ago, Demitri_C said: Goodness me this is painfal it really is So your defending greenwood now ? Er…what? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCJonah Posted September 17, 2023 Share Posted September 17, 2023 6 minutes ago, Demitri_C said: Avoiding again no suprise there Stop trying to find aomething isn't there its really sad Avoiding what? I'm still trying to figure out if you believe them or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted September 17, 2023 Share Posted September 17, 2023 Just now, DCJonah said: Avoiding what? I'm still trying to figure out if you believe them or not. Read my post above jonah. We are just doing round in circles not getting anywhere its pointless us continuing thia discussion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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