Popular Post Daulmakan Posted August 16, 2023 Visiting Supporter Popular Post Share Posted August 16, 2023 5 minutes ago, Marka Ragnos said: I read your post with interest. What do you think makes him better than Digne? They both seem sort of like journeymen players. I want to be excited about Acuna but I just don't know him vs. Digne. Digne is complicated for me, and overall I genuinely admire him ... but his salary is comparably huge compared to his teammates, and I know he disappoints some fans. He can be very creative, and in the past, he's sometimes created excellent chances in the box for our forwards or midfielders. I'm less down on Digne as a player than some on VT, and I worry more about our right side, tbh. I guess I'm not seeing Acuna as a huge upgrade but more a slight upgrade with some positive financial implications and potential bedding-in challenges. I don't think Acuña is a journeyman at all. Until 17 years old he only played at the amateur club level, and debuted officially with 20 years old in our second division. I understand you might consider him to be since he played for 4 teams in the span of 11 years, but everyone of those was an upgrade over the previous team, and he's always been the starter. Journeymen don't do that. As for Digne, what I've seen of him is that he's a good offensive player, good assister, but lacks defensive instincts and can be wildly inconsistent. Acuña is anything but. Even if he's having a bad day on the technical side, you can be sure he'll do his best to make it up for it by running his ass off. It's a clear upgrade for me, and if it liberates money for more transfers, even better. 14 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marka Ragnos Posted August 16, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted August 16, 2023 (edited) 13 minutes ago, Daulmakan said: I don't think Acuña is a journeyman at all. Until 17 years old he only played at the amateur club level, and debuted officially with 20 years old in our second division. I understand you might consider him to be since he played for 4 teams in the span of 11 years, but everyone of those was an upgrade over the previous team, and he's always been the starter. Journeymen don't do that. As for Digne, what I've seen of him is that he's a good offensive player, good assister, but lacks defensive instincts and can be wildly inconsistent. Acuña is anything but. Even if he's having a bad day on the technical side, you can be sure he'll do his best to make it up for it by running his ass off. It's a clear upgrade for me, and if it liberates money for more transfers, even better. I really appreciate your response and trust you know him far better than I. I don't see "journeyman" as a negative at all btw -- merely a description of someone who is a reliable player who isn't married to one club and fulfills a key role at a moderate cost, that's all. I'm not really trying to prove any point -- just learning. I feel concerned about the Acuna thing mostly because of the way it's getting tied to the idea of freeing up Digne funds, a quid pro quo. I just can't see how we're in a position to sell Digne, at least not until the winter and Moreno's back. Edited August 16, 2023 by Marka Ragnos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MWARLEY2 Posted August 16, 2023 Share Posted August 16, 2023 7 minutes ago, Marka Ragnos said: I really appreciate your response and trust you know him far better than I. I don't see "journeyman" as a negative at all btw -- merely a description of someone who is a reliable player who isn't married to one club and fulfills a key role at a moderate cost, that's all. I'm not really trying to prove any point -- just learning. I feel concerned about the Acuna thing mostly because of the way it's getting tied to the idea of freeing up Digne funds, a quid pro quo. I just can't see how we're in a position to sell Digne, at least not until the winter and Moreno's back. Moreno is back on the grass today. So maybe a couple of weeks away from being available for selection. And as mentioned the deadline for saudi transfers is 3 wks later than england . 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villan95 Posted August 16, 2023 Share Posted August 16, 2023 Starts for Sevilla tonight so can't be that close 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marka Ragnos Posted August 16, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted August 16, 2023 (edited) 6 minutes ago, MWARLEY2 said: Moreno is back on the grass today. So maybe a couple of weeks away from being available for selection. And as mentioned the deadline for saudi transfers is 3 wks later than england . This all just gets too complicated for me to grasp because we're talking about FFP issues, too, presumably, right? Banking on Moreno's speedy recovery and Saudi interest in Digne and Acuna being great and fitting in fast -- thanks heavens I don't have to make these calls and balance all the moving pieces. I wouldn't presume to know what's best so I hold up my hands up. Is Acuna able to work on the right, too? That would be helpful. Edited August 16, 2023 by Marka Ragnos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wishywashy Posted August 16, 2023 Author Share Posted August 16, 2023 6 minutes ago, villan95 said: Starts for Sevilla tonight so can't be that close Doubt he'd play if it was a La Liga match, but I imagine he wouldn't want to miss the Super Cup. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villan95 Posted August 16, 2023 Share Posted August 16, 2023 3 minutes ago, wishywashy said: Doubt he'd play if it was a La Liga match, but I imagine he wouldn't want to miss the Super Cup. Yeah understandable that he would want to play this one and try and win another trophy before he leaves Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeadlyDirk Posted August 16, 2023 Share Posted August 16, 2023 17 minutes ago, villan95 said: Starts for Sevilla tonight so can't be that close Season ending injury incoming... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villan95 Posted August 16, 2023 Share Posted August 16, 2023 3 minutes ago, DeadlyDirk said: Season ending injury incoming... If it's going to happen, then better it happens before he signs I suppose Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daulmakan Posted August 16, 2023 Visiting Supporter Share Posted August 16, 2023 26 minutes ago, Marka Ragnos said: This all just gets too complicated for me to grasp because we're talking about FFP issues, too, presumably, right? Banking on Moreno's speedy recovery and Saudi interest in Digne and Acuna being great and fitting in fast -- thanks heavens I don't have to make these calls and balance all the moving pieces. I wouldn't presume to know what's best so I hold up my hands up. Is Acuna able to work on the right, too? That would be helpful. I believe he played a few games on the right in Racing under Cocca, but didn't really watch those, so I can't say with how much accuracy he did. Also, he's not totally inept with his right leg: 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jas10 Posted August 16, 2023 Share Posted August 16, 2023 2 hours ago, Daulmakan said: Sure thing! I love it for you guys, Acuña is a great player. He was actually our starter left wingback, but dealt with minor injuries during the cup and so Tagliafico started some games (Acuña is better than him IMO). His nickname is "huevo" (egg) because as a child he'd injure his head often and regularly have bumps (eggs) in his head. It has stuck through all of his career because he's a very feisty player and in argentina "meter huevos" is an euphemism for that kind of player. He's pretty complete, if unspectacular. He defends, he attacks, he runs, can score from long range, good assister, doesn't have any noticeable weakness other than his short size, which isn't an issue at all playing in the wing. He'd be very happy next to Dibu and they've played together in our national team's resurgence, so they know what competing at the highest level is, he'll bring veteran savvyness and a competitive edge to your team, something I believe you can definitely use. I don't think he'd have trouble adapting to the Premier League. For 10 million, I'd definitely pull the trigger, even more so if you can sell Digne for more than that and keep the difference, I believe Acuña to be the better player anyway. Age could be a concern as he's a physically-intensive player, but you're not getting him for the long term and he should come cheap. This is just incorrect. Our weakest link by a country mile during the cup was De Paul, everyone was screaming for him to be replaced. Furthermore, up until the finals, Argentina was unbeaten in goal when Acuña played, so that's 5 goals we suffered when he wasn't in the pitch (and he played the same minutes as Tagliafico overall). Thank you… well, it’s hard to get more of an endorsement than that! Excited now Just need to make sure we offload Digne… 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zero7 Posted August 16, 2023 Share Posted August 16, 2023 Watching the match tonight, hope he puts in a transfer enticing performance 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyM3000 Posted August 16, 2023 Share Posted August 16, 2023 What minute is he getting injured then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zhan_Zhuang Posted August 16, 2023 Share Posted August 16, 2023 I said it earlier in the thread but this makes so much sense; Villa need a little more ruggedness, nous and experience in the defence now with Mings injured. Acuña and Moreno rotating potentially extends the careers of both players too. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zero7 Posted August 16, 2023 Share Posted August 16, 2023 Buy him for that first touch just there on 14 minutes. Wow 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WallisFrizz Posted August 16, 2023 Share Posted August 16, 2023 Just got an assist. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reivax_Villa Posted August 16, 2023 Share Posted August 16, 2023 Acuna Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zero7 Posted August 16, 2023 Share Posted August 16, 2023 Just now, WallisFrizz said: Just got an assist. I was ab out to say he’s not gone past the half way line but what a delivery Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMelvillan Posted August 16, 2023 Share Posted August 16, 2023 Oof. Cross! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herman22 Posted August 16, 2023 Share Posted August 16, 2023 What a cross that is! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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