Popular Post DakotaVilla Posted December 13, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted December 13, 2023 Anyone seriously suggesting Zaniolo be shipped back needs their head read. The lad joined us without proper fitness and nearly got banned for a year after getting dragged into the betting scandal. All of that same time he’s settling into a new country with a manager known to be very specific regarding his tactical requirements. If Emery sees potential in him then that’s more than enough for me and should be enough for anyone else as well. We are going to need all hands on deck from now until the end of the season and I won’t be surprised at all if Zaniolo makes important contributions at various points. Only way he gets shipped is if we somehow get a stupendous player like Williams over the line in Jan. 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
est1874 Posted December 13, 2023 Share Posted December 13, 2023 10 minutes ago, DakotaVilla said: Anyone seriously suggesting Zaniolo be shipped back needs their head read. The lad joined us without proper fitness and nearly got banned for a year after getting dragged into the betting scandal. All of that same time he’s settling into a new country with a manager known to be very specific regarding his tactical requirements. If Emery sees potential in him then that’s more than enough for me and should be enough for anyone else as well. We are going to need all hands on deck from now until the end of the season and I won’t be surprised at all if Zaniolo makes important contributions at various points. Only way he gets shipped is if we somehow get a stupendous player like Williams over the line in Jan. I don't think we should be sending him back but the fee agreed is starting to look pretty inflated, particularly when you consider his past injuries. Knowing Villa's luck with these things, he will come good just in time to trigger the permanent move, and then immediately get crocked for a year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PieFacE Posted December 13, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted December 13, 2023 Don't really care if he stays or goes. Will trust Emery on this one. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DakotaVilla Posted December 13, 2023 Share Posted December 13, 2023 1 hour ago, est1874 said: I don't think we should be sending him back but the fee agreed is starting to look pretty inflated, particularly when you consider his past injuries. Knowing Villa's luck with these things, he will come good just in time to trigger the permanent move, and then immediately get crocked for a year. Circa 22n euro for a fully fledged Italian international is too much? The rest is bonus based is it not? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david-avfc Posted December 13, 2023 Share Posted December 13, 2023 49 minutes ago, DakotaVilla said: Circa 22n euro for a fully fledged Italian international is too much? The rest is bonus based is it not? Surely it’s better to judge a player on what they’ve done on the pitch for us rather than whether they’ve played for their country 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DakotaVilla Posted December 13, 2023 Share Posted December 13, 2023 10 minutes ago, david-avfc said: Surely it’s better to judge a player on what they’ve done on the pitch for us rather than whether they’ve played for their country You mean just like Leon Bailey a few months ago? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted December 13, 2023 Share Posted December 13, 2023 Unai, will know, if the potential can be realised or not. I was initially impressed with the signing, but I have watched too many games from him, where he simply loses possession, too easily.......its passive and at this level, ascertion is a must. No matter, how much we can fiddle in our minds, looking for positives......there is no future at our level, or where we are heading, for players, who can't stay on the ball. I could write, umpteen consequences of such actions.....its critical to success to keep the ball. Its fundamental. If UE thinks he can solve that, obvious flaw ( to date) then he has a chance. I am happy to leave things in the capable hands of the men in charge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom13 Posted December 13, 2023 Share Posted December 13, 2023 Yes, considering everything (new league, new country, betting scandal) it is STILL too early to judge. Having said that, his decision making on the ball must improve. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adman Posted December 13, 2023 Share Posted December 13, 2023 I'm sure everyone is doing their best to get him firing (obviously Zaniolo included) as he's been out of the team for a bit. Others have been out and then come back stronger and I feel this will be the case here - starting tomorrow 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted December 13, 2023 Share Posted December 13, 2023 11 hours ago, DakotaVilla said: Anyone seriously suggesting Zaniolo be shipped back needs their head read. The lad joined us without proper fitness and nearly got banned for a year after getting dragged into the betting scandal. All of that same time he’s settling into a new country with a manager known to be very specific regarding his tactical requirements. If Emery sees potential in him then that’s more than enough for me and should be enough for anyone else as well. We are going to need all hands on deck from now until the end of the season and I won’t be surprised at all if Zaniolo makes important contributions at various points. Only way he gets shipped is if we somehow get a stupendous player like Williams over the line in Jan. You missed the most important bit... Buendia is still out and JJ is only just back I'm not sure Buendia kicks a ball for us this season, zaniolo finding some form would mean that he doesn't need to Said before I'm still not convinced he's the long term plan and he's pure injury cover, his dip in form now hopefully coincides with JJs return so I'm not overly fussed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taxahunter Posted December 14, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted December 14, 2023 23 hours ago, Pinebro said: Just take the L and terminate his contract in January. Send him back. Always so negative, why don't you just stay away from this thread? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KevinRichardsonsMoustache Posted December 14, 2023 Share Posted December 14, 2023 With JJ coming back, it takes the pressure off Zaniolo and will allow him to integrate into Emery’s system more effectively. There’s a player in there but he needs to bed in. The challenge will be that he’s a maverick player and if he can channel that into Emery’s way of playing. If he can’t, then they’ll all shake hands and he’ll be going home at some point. It is getting rarer and rarer for players to just hit the ground running and make an immediate impression: especially considering Emery has very exacting requirements for his system(s). 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steero113 Posted December 14, 2023 Share Posted December 14, 2023 20 hours ago, david-avfc said: Surely it’s better to judge a player on what they’ve done on the pitch for us rather than whether they’ve played for their country I'm sure Chelsea were absolutely thrilled they judged KDB and Salah based on what they did on the pitch for them at the time. If Unai rates his potential, I rate his potential. Not one body is brought into this club without his say, he has total autonomy. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pinebro Posted December 14, 2023 Share Posted December 14, 2023 I just don't see it with Zanioli 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChesterDad Posted December 14, 2023 Share Posted December 14, 2023 On 13/12/2023 at 12:59, DakotaVilla said: You mean just like Leon Bailey a few months ago? I am unclear what you mean by this ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChesterDad Posted December 14, 2023 Share Posted December 14, 2023 34 minutes ago, Pinebro said: I just don't see it with Zanioli It’s very clear to me - the kid has zero confidence at this moment. He is trying, almost too much. This kid will come good for us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted December 14, 2023 Share Posted December 14, 2023 Congratz! Great that you finally got your goal. Hopefully he can relax a bit now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strog Posted December 14, 2023 Share Posted December 14, 2023 Nice control and finish Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChesterDad Posted December 14, 2023 Share Posted December 14, 2023 4 minutes ago, sne said: Congratz! Great that you finally got your goal. Hopefully he can relax a bit now. I do honestly believe he will come good. It’s clear that he has ability, just needs time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCJonah Posted December 14, 2023 Share Posted December 14, 2023 Sack him off. He's not instantly our best player so why waste time with him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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