Zatman Posted November 5, 2023 Share Posted November 5, 2023 6 minutes ago, Demitri_C said: JPB for me knows how to score goals and is quick. Zaniolo looks slow and reminds me so much of heskey with his finishing. Well no JPB has 8 career Championship goals. Zaniolo has 29 in top flight, Europe and international football JPB wasnt the answer or solution Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villan95 Posted November 5, 2023 Share Posted November 5, 2023 I actually thought he's had several worse matches than today. Not that today was good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hank Scorpio Posted November 5, 2023 Share Posted November 5, 2023 He's certainly not shown anything to justify making the loan permanent yet overall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turvontour Posted November 5, 2023 Share Posted November 5, 2023 4 minutes ago, DCJonah said: Think people are being harsh. No worse than Diaby, Watkins or Bailey today. But he received the best opportunity on a plate and his first touch takes him diagonally away from goal. It's not today though is it, its the second straight game he has been substituted at half time. His confident is shot because of how bad he has been. Start him in Europe until his output improves would be my solution. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted November 5, 2023 Share Posted November 5, 2023 Just now, Zatman said: Well no JPB has 8 career Championship goals. Zaniolo has 29 in top flight, Europe and international football JPB wasnt the answer or solution JPB was never given a chance at PL level. He was also looking good pre season.i think he would have done well here. Zaniolo 0 assists 0 goals. Im almost certain JPB would have bettered that if he wss given as many minutes as zaniolo has Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted November 5, 2023 Share Posted November 5, 2023 (edited) 1 minute ago, Demitri_C said: JPB was never given a chance at PL level. He was also looking good pre season.i think he would have done well here. Zaniolo 0 assists 0 goals. Im almost certain JPB would have bettered that if he wss given as many minutes as zaniolo has He wasnt for a reason and its why he is at Hull and not a newly promoted team and we signed Zaniolo Edited November 5, 2023 by Zatman 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mantis Posted November 5, 2023 Share Posted November 5, 2023 4 minutes ago, villan95 said: I actually thought he's had several worse matches than today. Not that today was good. Agreed, and he did more than Bailey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pinebro Posted November 5, 2023 Share Posted November 5, 2023 5 minutes ago, villan95 said: I actually thought he's had several worse matches than today. Not that today was good. Shows how low the bar is Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted November 5, 2023 Share Posted November 5, 2023 1 minute ago, Zatman said: He wasnt for a reason and its why he is at Hull and not a newly promoted team and we signed Zaniolo Even top managers make mistakes. Zaniolo is evidence of that. He looks the complete opposite to what JPB offers. I think zaniolos stats speak for themselves Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaVilla Posted November 5, 2023 Share Posted November 5, 2023 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Demitri_C said: JPB was never given a chance at PL level. He was also looking good pre season.i think he would have done well here. Zaniolo 0 assists 0 goals. Im almost certain JPB would have bettered that if he wss given as many minutes as zaniolo has tbf its not all about goals and assists, a player can be very productive within the wider team/play and not register goals and assists. thats a moot point though, as i also think he hasnt done that well outside of just goals and assists. (pointless comment i know, just making the general point). Edited November 5, 2023 by MaVilla 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted November 5, 2023 Share Posted November 5, 2023 3 minutes ago, Demitri_C said: Even top managers make mistakes. Zaniolo is evidence of that. He looks the complete opposite to what JPB offers. I think zaniolos stats speak for themselves They do. It doesnt mean JPB was the answer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post avfc1982am Posted November 5, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted November 5, 2023 He's playing out of position because we don't have cover with JR and Buendia out. I think a bit of perspective and patience is required with him. If Emery is starting him then he's obviously seeing things he likes in the lad or he'd put Teilemans or McGinn there and switch it around because he's under no obligation to play him unless he wants to. I think he's coming in for some harsh and unwarranted criticism to be honest, but I'm glad Emery is persisting with him because slaughtering a player who's only been here a couple of months is a little embarrassing tbh. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain_Townsend Posted November 5, 2023 Share Posted November 5, 2023 Villa fans do like a scapegoat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodders0223 Posted November 5, 2023 Share Posted November 5, 2023 He ain't playing great and that doesn't make him a scapegoat. It does ask a huge question. How many games make the move permanent with the obligation and do we get to a point if Zaniolo is putting in these performances next year , that he gets put in the freezer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted November 5, 2023 Share Posted November 5, 2023 12 minutes ago, Zatman said: They do. It doesnt mean JPB was the answer But if that was our two options for me id opt for JPB as he is younger, one of our own Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulC Posted November 5, 2023 Share Posted November 5, 2023 No scapegoat but he doesn't seem to have any conviction in his play. No worse than anybody else today but everybody was underpar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted November 5, 2023 Share Posted November 5, 2023 2 minutes ago, Demitri_C said: But if that was our two options for me id opt for JPB as he is younger, one of our own Yet no Premier League team came for him. Only the team who finished 15th in Championship He is also not one of our own He isnt a Villa fan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
avfc1982am Posted November 5, 2023 Share Posted November 5, 2023 Just now, rodders0223 said: He ain't playing great and that doesn't make him a scapegoat. It does ask a huge question. How many games make the move permanent with the obligation and do we get to a point if Zaniolo is putting in these performances next year , that he gets put in the freezer. Emery isn't under any obligation to play him. If he judged the players as most of the fans do we wouldn't have a side to put out most the time. Zaniolo isn't playing great and I think everyone can see that, however we don't see him in training, and we don't see what Emery sees so maybe Emery trusts in him like he has in Bailey when everyone was writing him off too. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wurzel Posted November 5, 2023 Share Posted November 5, 2023 He is playing in the position we need him to play for the team, if he can't play that position then he isn't the answer for the team and we need to get someone in who can play that position. The good news is he is a loan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
avfc1982am Posted November 5, 2023 Share Posted November 5, 2023 5 minutes ago, Demitri_C said: But if that was our two options for me id opt for JPB as he is younger, one of our own One of our own means nothing. If Emery hadn't wanted to keep JPB then he'd still be here, end of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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