MrBlack Posted October 13, 2023 Share Posted October 13, 2023 Is it illegal for them to do any gambling then? Or is it just that the site they used didn't have a legal licence in Italy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Zatman Posted October 13, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted October 13, 2023 Apparently they are chasing a 3 year ban. I dont think players should be as harshly punished when the employer is allowed plaster shit gambling sponsors everywhere but they are the rules We will probably terminate the deal in January if guilty. Can join the Drinkwater, Kiraly loan hall of fame 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wishywashy Posted October 13, 2023 Share Posted October 13, 2023 I don't like the sound of "betting ring" at all.... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrBlack Posted October 13, 2023 Share Posted October 13, 2023 (edited) 13 minutes ago, tomav84 said: if they can prove no sports betting then any chance of a slap on the wrist? Probably not... extract from the article of law they were arrested under doesn't seem to care if its sports betting or not... but I'm not a lawyer and it's not very clear https://www.edizionieuropee.it/law/html/23/zn48_01_050.html Quote Anyone who illegally carries out the organization of lottery games or betting or prediction competitions which the law reserves to the State or other concessionary body, is punished with imprisonment from three to six years and with a fine from 20,000 to 50,000 euros . Anyone who organizes bets or prediction competitions on sports activities managed by the Italian National Olympic Committee (CONI), by organizations dependent on it or by the Italian Union for the Improvement of Equine Breeds (UNIRE) is subject to the same penalty. Anyone who illegally carries out the organization of public bets on other competitions of people or animals and games of skill is punished with imprisonment from three months to one year and with a fine of no less than one million lire Edited October 13, 2023 by MrBlack 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ender4 Posted October 13, 2023 Share Posted October 13, 2023 29 minutes ago, Zatman said: Apparently they are chasing a 3 year ban. I dont think players should be as harshly punished when the employer is allowed plaster shit gambling sponsors everywhere but they are the rules We will probably terminate the deal in January if guilty. The problem is that we really need him on form between now and January. With this hanging over him, he's not going to be in the right form of mind to be playing at the highest level. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aston_Villan4 Posted October 13, 2023 Share Posted October 13, 2023 32 minutes ago, MrBlack said: Is it illegal for them to do any gambling then? Or is it just that the site they used didn't have a legal licence in Italy? Illegal for them to do any gambling. Stems from concerns of match fixing. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mic09 Posted October 13, 2023 Share Posted October 13, 2023 46 minutes ago, wishywashy said: I reckon this is all a part of Aston Villa's plan to get more money out of BK8. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vive_La_Villa Posted October 13, 2023 Share Posted October 13, 2023 (edited) This is getting messy. So he’s broke the law for gambling in Italy but has he broken any football laws? Seems harsh to ban a player from his livelihood for playing a game of poker. Edited October 13, 2023 by Vive_La_Villa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duke313 Posted October 13, 2023 Share Posted October 13, 2023 4 minutes ago, Vive_La_Villa said: This is getting messy. So he’s broke the law for gambling in Italy but has he broken any football laws? Seems harsh to ban a player from his livelihood for playing a game of poker. Seems harsh. Imagine getting banned from your job at Tesco because you played a game of poker 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aston_Villan4 Posted October 13, 2023 Share Posted October 13, 2023 3 minutes ago, Vive_La_Villa said: This is getting messy. So he’s broke the law for gambling in Italy but has he broken any football laws? Seems harsh to ban a player from his livelihood for playing a game of poker. He reportedly bet on Roma games while he was playing for Roma. That’s more than just playing a game of poker. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted October 13, 2023 Share Posted October 13, 2023 5 minutes ago, Aston_Villan4 said: He reportedly bet on Roma games while he was playing for Roma. That’s more than just playing a game of poker. Yeah exactly 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vive_La_Villa Posted October 13, 2023 Share Posted October 13, 2023 9 minutes ago, Aston_Villan4 said: He reportedly bet on Roma games while he was playing for Roma. That’s more than just playing a game of poker. Well yes if this turns out to be true then he will rightly be banned. I was talking about the recent news of him confessing to playing poker. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lapal_fan Posted October 13, 2023 Share Posted October 13, 2023 55 minutes ago, wishywashy said: I don't like the sound of "betting ring" at all.... I do, if it's her "betting ring". 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woody1000 Posted October 13, 2023 Share Posted October 13, 2023 1 minute ago, lapal_fan said: I do, if it's her "betting ring". You said ring. 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted October 13, 2023 Share Posted October 13, 2023 13 minutes ago, Vive_La_Villa said: Well yes if this turns out to be true then he will rightly be banned. I was talking about the recent news of him confessing to playing poker. Poker is legal but regulated and the prosecutor said illegal gambling. Italy has a match fixing history and wrong lost bet can lead a player into the wrong hands Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted October 13, 2023 Share Posted October 13, 2023 32 minutes ago, ender4 said: The problem is that we really need him on form between now and January. With this hanging over him, he's not going to be in the right form of mind to be playing at the highest level. Italy have won many tournaments during similar scandals. Him and Tonali will thrive on it 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wainy316 Posted October 13, 2023 Share Posted October 13, 2023 At least he's only on initial loan. Newcastle have sunk about £60m into Tonali. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Made In Aston Posted October 13, 2023 Share Posted October 13, 2023 (edited) 2 hours ago, Vive_La_Villa said: Where’s this come from? The obligation to buy was reported at the time. I think it is in a Romano tweet. Edited October 13, 2023 by Made In Aston 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Made In Aston Posted October 13, 2023 Share Posted October 13, 2023 4 minutes ago, Wainy316 said: At least he's only on initial loan. Newcastle have sunk about £60m into Tonali. I wonder if Tonali's charges will magically disappear after some PIF 'encouragement'. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Made In Aston Posted October 13, 2023 Share Posted October 13, 2023 16 hours ago, Strog said: If true what shame, particularly as he has a good song We just need to adapt it to 'Heeerrreee we gooooo! We're betting on Zaniolo' 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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